• #1 Linux desktop failing, "Backup & Restore"

    From Nomen Nescio@nobody@dizum.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Apr 27 02:08:55 2026
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    There are many simple and easy options to backup and restore Windows.

    Very few exist for Linux.

    The instructions for backing up and restoring Linux are also stinkers.
    They don't work the same for every version.

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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Apr 26 17:23:40 2026
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    On 4/26/26 17:08, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    There are many simple and easy options to backup and restore Windows.

    Very few exist for Linux.

    The instructions for backing up and restoring Linux are also stinkers.
    They don't work the same for every version.



    It is a different culture in the Linux world.

    If you need suggestions, make a post over on
    your distro's forum.

    I can tell you on Fedora, there are a lot of options.
    I have rescued my ass several times with them.
    And you back up everything, running or not, in Linux.

    But to reiterate, Linux is not Windows, it is a
    different way of doing things. Ask your distro's
    forum for advice.

    Here is a starter:
    https://chatgpt.com/s/t_69eeac762ad88191b595af7121f14d8c

    Borg is really popular.
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  • From Lars Poulsen@lars+usenet@beagle-ears.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Apr 26 21:04:30 2026
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    On 4/26/26 5:08 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    There are many simple and easy options to backup and restore Windows.
    Very few exist for Linux.
    The instructions for backing up and restoring Linux are also stinkers.
    They don't work the same for every version.

    As I see it, they both have problems, and the most basic problems are similar.

    In both cases, it is recommended to always have a full backup of the
    system on hand before you do any maintenance. That is a fairly good recommendation, except that many of us have systems with a terabyte or
    more storage, and it takes a good long time and a somewhat expensive
    amount of storage to close that much before you run the regularly
    scheduled system update (Windows Update or DNF upgrade).
    Of course, most of that storage is not "system", but "user data", which
    should not be in the same filesystem as "system" files, but in both
    cases, the "simple installation" procedure has no provisions to
    facilitate such separation.

    Once you have achieved such a setup, with at least three partitions ("EFI","root", "home"), you only do the "clone" backup for the
    "EFI" and "root" parts, and then you can do "smart" backups for the user
    data.

    And when you are at that level of sophistication, Linux is MUCH simpler
    to work with. Windows has a prediliction for hiding important files and features from the user/operator. One of the worst is the "recovery"
    partition, which is well hidden, and can easily get corrupted.
    Another is the various "Application Data" folders, where lots of things, including your email are stored, but which the "File Explorer" is
    normally prevented from browsing.

    In Linux, you can see all of these things.

    For my own part, I have a USB-attached external backup drive that is
    about twice as large as my "useful" storage. Overnight, I run an
    incremental rsync from each filesystem to the backup drive.
    It is set up so that each filesystem has a top level folder named for
    the date, under which the whole tree appears, but files that are
    unchanged from the day before are a hard link to the file from
    yesterday. This is essentially the same as Apple's "Time Machine" backup.
    So for my 4TB partition set (with, say 3TB used), the first nightly
    backup uses 3TB, but each subsequent daily backup usually uses 3-4GB,
    so a 6TB backup drive can go for up to 3 years before it fills up.
    --
    Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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  • From Joe Fretzl@jfretzl@nowhere.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Apr 27 10:54:28 2026
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    On 26 Apr 2026, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> posted some news:1d047e52f4a1ad7e75f5ed88e617ee34@dizum.com:

    There are many simple and easy options to backup and restore Windows.

    Very few exist for Linux.

    The instructions for backing up and restoring Linux are also stinkers.
    They don't work the same for every version.

    What distros of Linux are you referring to?

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJjaW4gSmF3b3Jza2nwn4e18J+HsQ==?=@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Apr 27 17:05:18 2026
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    W dniu 27.04.2026 o-a02:08, Nomen Nescio pisze:
    Very few exist for Linux.

    Backup apps are for pussies!!! All hackers writing their own backup
    scripts (among other hundreds automating scripts). This is the Unix way!
    This involve mind and brain, you brainless pussy!!!
    --
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    tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA;
    Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>;
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Apr 27 14:38:00 2026
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    On 4/27/26 08:05, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:
    W dniu 27.04.2026 o-a02:08, Nomen Nescio pisze:
    Very few exist for Linux.

    Backup apps are for pussies!!! All hackers writing their own backup
    scripts (among other hundreds automating scripts). This is the Unix way! This involve mind and brain, you brainless pussy!!!


    That was uncalled for.

    And by the way, I wrote my own. And it is only one
    of many methods. There are GUI programs too, such
    as Borg.

    I have written my own in Windows too.
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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Apr 28 22:32:34 2026
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    On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 17:05:18 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    W dniu 27.04.2026 o-a02:08, Nomen Nescio pisze:
    Very few exist for Linux.

    Backup apps are for pussies!!! All hackers writing their own backup
    scripts (among other hundreds automating scripts). This is the Unix way!
    This involve mind and brain, you brainless pussy!!!

    Anyone driving a vehicle made by someone other than themself is a pussy
    also. If you don't have the basic machinist skills to create an engine and
    a transmission, you don't need to be using them.

    Anyone that can't then put that engine and tranny on a frame they have
    built from steel they have created in a backyard blast furnace from some
    iron ore, coke, and limestone, they don't need to have a vehicle.
    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 29 06:29:35 2026
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    On 4/28/26 15:32, CtrlAltDel wrote:
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    1+

    Was that your quote or are you quoting someone else?
    If yours, you forgot to add social media to the list.
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  • From CtrlAltDel@Altie@AL.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Apr 29 22:42:27 2026
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    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 06:29:35 -0700, T wrote:

    On 4/28/26 15:32, CtrlAltDel wrote:
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free
    fall into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental
    illness.

    1+

    Was that your quote or are you quoting someone else? If yours, you
    forgot to add social media to the list.

    It's mine and was created in 1995 and made its debut in
    24hoursupport.helpdesk back when it was one of the most active and
    interesting groups on Usenet.
    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Apr 30 10:26:01 2026
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    On 4/27/2026 8:08 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    There are many simple and easy options to backup and restore Windows.
    Very few exist for Linux.

    If you are an experienced Linux user, just dd everything to backup and
    restore any partition. Or one can just backup data in any partition
    using tar and 7z.
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
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