• Duluth becomes Minnesota's largest community to pull plug on Flock cameras

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    The moves come as the license plate readers are debated on
    constitutional grounds and are vandalized in Minnesota and beyond.

    Duluth has joined other communities in Minnesota and across the country
    that are pulling the plug on the hotly debated devices, while another is weighing a halt to installation midway into the process.

    The growing hesitancy in Minnesota and beyond comes amid a groundswell
    of criticism rCo and sometimes vandalism rCo over whether the
    license-reading cameras violate driversrCO privacy rights, as well as
    being used to enforce the federal immigration crackdown.

    The Duluth Police Department announced Tuesday that it will let its grant-funded one-year contract with Flock run out, effective Sept. 7,
    without renewing.

    The move comes even though police said in the announcement that the
    license plate readers have rCLalready proven beneficial in solving
    significant crimes in our community to include homicides and stolen vehicles.rCY

    Duluth, with roughly 88,000 residents, is the largest municipality so
    far in Minnesota to reverse course regarding Flock cameras as public
    pushback grows across the state.

    On Monday, Duluth police told the Minnesota Star Tribune that officials
    have recorded six times when the departmentrCOs cameras were either stolen
    or vandalized.

    According to the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA), Duluth has
    been operating nine license plate-reading cameras.

    This week, North Branch in east-central Minnesota is scheduled to
    consider hitting the brakes on accepting Flock cameras, according to
    Police Chief Dan Meyer.

    The North Branch City Council approved a three-year contract in May for
    seven cameras. Three have been installed and await being turned on until
    all the cameras are in place, the chief said. TheyrCOve been covered to indicate they are not in use and to thwart vandalism, Meyer said.

    But there have been second thoughts.

    rCLThe city held a community information meeting last Wednesday to discuss
    the project and address questions and concerns from residents,rCY Meyer
    said. rCLTomorrow night [Wednesday], the City Council is expected to
    discuss whether to place an indefinite pause on the project or cancel
    the contract altogether.rCY

    Twin Cities Suburbs

    Twin Cities suburbs restrict license plate data after Star Tribune investigation Meyer said he believes the license plate readers rCLcan be a valuable public safety tool, but we also recognize the importance of maintaining public trust.rCY

    In Isanti County, Sheriff Wayne Seiberlich has decided to end a test run
    of the crime-fighting technology, despite praising the effectiveness and defending the constitutionality of the license plate readers scanning
    his highways.

    In a Facebook post, Seiberlich explained that his decision to halt the
    no-cost evaluation, which began in April, by the end of August rCLis based
    on budgetary needs and the need for this technology versus want.rCY

    The sheriff said the cameras cost $3,000 each during the first year of
    its leasing contract. The county has been operating its eight cameras at
    five key entry points on well-traveled highways, and they have recorded vehicles roughly 3 million times.

    rCLIn addition to these not fitting within budget priorities, we donrCOt
    have the staffing to use the data effectively and efficiently,rCY
    Seiberlich said in an interview.

    rCLFrom a budgetary perspective, I must decide if this money could be put toward other current needs, such as improvements within our jail,rCY his Facebook post read.

    During the trial period, the sheriff wrote, his office heard feedback
    about potential privacy violations, third-party access to data collected
    by Flock and rCLbroader concerns about government overreach through the collection and retention of license plate information.rCY

    The sheriff added that his officerCOs review failed to rCLidentify any
    credible evidence demonstrating that Flock itself had improperly shared customer data.rCY

    In an interview, Seiberlich said his office has shared no license plate
    reader (LPR) information with federal agencies rCo such as Homeland
    Security rCo or agencies outside of the state.

    But, he said, rCLwe have [arrangements] in place with agencies in
    Minnesota who also use the system, and that ... allows their access to
    our records.rCY

    He pointed out that LPRs in his county do not include facial recognition technology, nor do they track a vehiclerCOs movements after it passes a
    camera. All data collected by the system is permanently deleted after 30
    days.

    rCLThe purpose of this trial was to determine whether this technology
    could provide meaningful public safety benefits,rCY the sheriff wrote. rCLI believe we have shown that it can.rCY

    Just in July, the sheriff disclosed, LPRs generated 35 notifications of
    vehicle owners with arrest warrants, five stolen vehicle plates and four
    stolen vehicles.

    Seiberlich said Monday the cameras also have provided critical
    information rCLregarding Amber and Silver Alerts [for endangered missing children or vulnerable seniors], but the cameras only notify our agency
    once a vehicle passes a camera. It doesnrCOt track where that vehicle goes beyond the initial contact. ... With such minimal staffing many vehicles
    are never located.rCY

    West St. Paul pulls the plug
    In West St. Paul, a statement from City Manager Nate Burkett said its
    contract with Flock on a trial basis has been suspended and all the
    cameras should be down by the end of the week.

    According to the BCA, West St. Paul has been operating 10 license
    plate-reading cameras.

    While a review of how the city used the cameras rCLfound no indication
    that we used it for anything other than legitimate local law
    enforcement. ... The concern that has grown around this technology is
    not about our people,rCY Burkett said. rCLIt is about the system itself, and whether a tool like this belongs in West St. Paul before the community understands and trusts it.rCY

    Removing the system will at times make police work more difficult, the
    city manager acknowledged, rCLfrom identifying people who commit crimes to finding a vulnerable person who has gone missing. ... On balance, I have concluded that carrying forward a system the community does not yet
    trust costs this city more than it returns.rCY

    Vandals have targeted cameras in many Minnesota communities. Winona
    disclosed last week that all eight of its license plate readers [LPRs]
    were swiped after their metal mounting poles were cut down with a saw.

    Edina reported at least nine similar acts of vandalism spread over the
    past several months. One person has been charged in the state so far
    during this onslaught with downing a camera; that case occurred in
    Faribault.

    Isanti CountyrCOs Seiberlich told the Minnesota Star Tribune on Monday
    that three of his officerCOs eight cameras rCLhave been cut down.rCY

    Back in June, Columbia Heights ended its Flock contract and put black
    plastic over its cameras due to data sharing concerns.

    Flock cameras in 49 states
    According to the New York Times, FlockrCOs 120,000 cameras can be found alongside roads in every state but Alaska, allowing law enforcement
    officers to see within seconds where a car might be and where it has
    been. The company has contracts with 7,000 law enforcement agencies,
    which is 40% of all departments in the United States.

    Other companies sell license plate tracking services, but Flock has
    become a lightning rod because of its rapid expansion, the ubiquity of
    its cameras and the number of controversies involving its product.

    Flock CEO Garrett Langley started the company because he was troubled by
    the many vehicle break-ins in his Atlanta neighborhood, the Times
    reported. When he asked police why they were unable to catch the
    thieves, Langley said he was told they needed the perpetratorsrCO license
    plate numbers.

    When Flock was founded in 2017, it sold devices largely to homeownersrCO associations. But in 2020, it began working with police departments.
    According to the Times, Langley had his SUV stolen that year, and Flock
    cameras helped find it.

    Looking ahead, Langley told the Times, rCLItrCOs going to be an ongoing
    debate probably forever. We should have this debate, and we should
    continue to evolve our point of view as a society of what werCOre
    comfortable with and what level of safety we want.rCY

    https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-sheriff-taking-down-flock-cameras-d espite-defending-the-technology/601877050
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