• Could Pasadena be the next city to remove Flock cameras? Activists hope so

    From Flocked Up@radialsaws@174.16.11.77 to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.law-enforcement.corruption,alt.privacy,sac.politics,talk.politics.guns on Sat Aug 22 02:36:05 2026
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    A group of Pasadena residents are tired of feeling like theyrCOre always
    being watched. And they want city officials to do something about it.

    Flock cameras rCo attached to poles and other fixtures so authorities can capture license-plate numbers and know where specific vehicles traveled
    rCo have spread across the country in the last decade. Cities big and
    small have been blanketed with the recognizable black cameras armed with
    solar panels.

    Then came the controversies.

    Agencies have shared Flock data with federal immigration officials, and
    some cops have used the cameras to stalk ex-partners. Some residents in Southern California and across the country have called on cities to end
    their contracts with Flock, and officials in some communities have
    listened.

    Activists in Pasadena hope to be the next city to ride that momentum.

    Members of Pasadena Privacy have gathered more than 2,700 letters urging
    city leaders to cancel a contract with Flock thatrCOs up for renewal next month.

    Members like Yadi Younse believe the automated license-plate-reader
    cameras infringe on peoplerCOs Fourth Amendment rights.

    Younse first joined Pasadena Privacy in 2020 because she worried that
    local governments and law enforcement agencies were implementing new technologies before they were well tested. In recent months, sherCOs
    noticed more residents getting involved with the organization or
    speaking at public meetings because of their concerns with the cameras
    sold by Flock.

    rCLIrCOm not surprised by the visceral reaction, and IrCOm glad,rCY Younse said.
    rCLIrCOve known all along that people do care about privacy, but itrCOs really awesome to see that people are now taking time out of their very, very
    busy lives to speak on this issue.rCY

    Pasadena police declined to comment on the cityrCOs future with Flock, but
    a spokesperson for the city said officials are rCLworking to get the appropriate city and outside representatives to the table via a Public
    Safety Committee meeting in the next few months.rCY

    Growing concerns, criticism

    Over the last decade, law enforcement agencies across the country have
    upped their usage of Flock cameras. The license-plate readers are
    deployed by more than 5,000 law enforcement agencies and 1,000
    businesses nationally, according to the companyrCOs website. The cameras capture images of passing vehicles to gather identifying details such as license plates, makes and models for an agencyrCOs searchable database.

    If there are enough Flock cameras in an area, law enforcement can track
    someone as they drive throughout a city or region, as data captured by
    Flock cameras can be searched by law enforcement agencies in other
    cities, said Lauren Bonds, executive director of the National Police Accountability Project, which says it focuses rCLon ending law enforcement overreach and abuse of power.rCY

    The camera networks have made it possible for officers to stalk
    ex-romantic partners. In Texas, authorities tried to find a woman in
    another state who, they said, got a self-administrated abortion; they
    said they just wanted to ensure she was OK. Last year, CalMatters
    reported on instances in which Los Angeles police and sheriffrCOs
    departments in Orange, Riverside and San Diego counties shared
    license-plate data with federal officials.

    rCLThatrCOs what really puts people on notice that these technologies exist
    and that there are these negative implications for the public,rCY Bonds
    said.

    Flock argues that law enforcement agencies use its license-plate readers
    to gather leads and track down missing people, stolen vehicles and
    suspect vehicles. Alerts from PasadenarCOs 61 Flock cameras helped recover
    30% of vehicles that were stolen in the city last year, totaling about
    $700,000 in stolen property, the company said in a statement.

    Flock said its cameras rCLcapture point-in-time images of vehicles in
    public viewrCY and donrCOt identify people, use facial recognition or gather personal information. The company said it requires a documented reason
    for each search of its data, doesnrCOt have agreements with U.S.
    Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, or the U.S. Department of
    Homeland Security and allows agencies to control if and how their data
    is shared.

    rCLAgencies own and control their data, determine whether to share it
    through opt-in relationships, and can modify or revoke those
    relationships at any time,rCY Flock said in a statment. rCLFlock does not
    share data on behalf of customers and never sells customer data.

    rCLFlock has no contracts with ICE or any Department of Homeland Security subagency,rCY it said. rCLFlock also offers immigration search filters that agencies can enable to block searches tied to civil immigration
    enforcement, and those filters are automatically applied where required
    by law.rCY

    With growing public scrutiny, Los Angeles police ended their agreetment
    for Flock license-plate readers, and other California cities, including
    South Pasadena, El Cerrito and Mountain View, have done the same.

    Though in Costa Mesa, where a former officer was sentenced to three
    years probation in April for using the California Law Enforcement Telecommunications System database to allegedly stalk his wife, an ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend, the City Council voted 6-1 to renew a
    Flock contract last month.

    To address privacy concerns, the council renegotiated Costa MesarCOs
    contract to shorten the data-retention period from one year to 45 days.
    (A state bill authored by Riverside Democratic Sen. Sabrina Cervantes
    aims to limit the retention of such license-plate data to 30 days in
    many cases.)

    Ahead of an Aug. 11 public forum to discuss concerns related to the license-plate readers, Monterey Park highlighted rCLsuccess stories,rCY
    writing that the cameras helped identify and track a suspect vehicle
    following the 2023 Star Ballroom mass shooting that killed 11 people,
    find a suspect vehicle hours after the killing of an off-duty officer in
    Downey in 2022, and track down an elderly man with dementia who was
    reported missing; the cameras found his vehicle in Riverside County and
    tracked his whereabouts until officers found him in Long Beach.

    rCyI wouldnrCOt feel comfortable pursuing this (now)rCO

    Pasadena Councilmember Tyron Hampton, also a member of the cityrCOs Public Safety Committee, said he believes the city should remove its network of
    Flock cameras and consider other automated-license-plate readers that he
    hopes would better protect the communityrCOs privacy.

    Technology, he said, can help police solve cases. He cited the arrest of
    a couple several years after the shooting death of a 13-year-old boy in Pasadena; police used enhanced surveillance video to find a partial
    license plate on a suspect vehicle.

    rCLWe have world class events here, and Pasadena is going to continue to
    be a safe environment,rCY Hampton said, rCLand werCOre going to continue to
    use technology in the safest way that we can.rCY

    In cities that have ended their Flock agreements, such as Denver and
    Syracuse, New York, officials later inked contracts with Axon to supply license-plate readers. But no matter the company, the same privacy
    concerns arise, said Rin Alajaji, associate director of state affairs
    for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit centering on digital privacy and free speech.

    rCLItrCOs been something that werCOve seen regardless of the vendor,rCY Alajaji said. rCLThere is misuse when governments and police departments have such
    a powerful system that they can use at any moment that theyrCOd like to.rCY

    Pasadena Privacy members care about public safety, Younse said, but they
    also worry the devices threaten their privacy and have too long a
    history of misuse to be trusted. For them to be used properly, Younse
    said she believes the city would need to have guardrails against
    misconduct, public discussions before new technology is purchased, and a position similar to a chief privacy officer to hold other officials accountable.

    Despite local policies and California laws meant to prevent federal
    officials from accessing police department data, Pasadena Vice Mayor
    Jess Rivas said she worries the Trump administration could find ways to
    use license-plate data for immigration enforcement or to keep tabs on protesters.

    rCLI just donrCOt trust the federal government right now,rCY said Rivas, who also chairs the Public Safety Committee. rCLI wouldnrCOt feel comfortable pursuing this for quite a long time.rCY

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