• Re: Eating people is not an adjective but a verb.

    From eye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Feb 3 12:56:33 2026
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    aye posted:

    https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu3.html#29

    << ... Confucius paid no attention, and
    with Yen Hui as his carriage driver, and
    Tzu-kung on his right, he went off to visit
    Robber Chih. Robber Chih was just at that time
    resting with his band of followers on the sunny side
    of Mount T'ai and enjoying a late afternoon snack
    of minced human livers. ... >>

    A great thief is said to have Dao.
    A saying was said, they gobble up sage wisdom.

    Hence the sages are to blame
    for trouble in the world.

    Rhetoric varies.
    Not to mention hyperbole.

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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Feb 3 12:59:14 2026
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    eye posted:
    aye posted:

    https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu3.html#29

    ... of minced human livers. ... >>

    A great thief is said to have Dao.
    A saying was said, they gobble up sage wisdom.

    A consumer of the news, consumes the news.
    Some of what is viewed is digested. Some
    of what is heard is repeated which may
    be related to a story about words.

    Hence the sages are to blame
    for trouble in the world.

    Rhetoric varies.
    Not to mention hyperbole.

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  • From eye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Feb 3 13:05:42 2026
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    aye posted:

    A consumer of the news, consumes the news.
    Some of what is viewed is digested. Some
    of what is heard is repeated which may
    be related to a story about words.

    Speaking of Zhuangzi,
    in the last chapter of the book,
    a paragraph or two notes how he was.

    << Blank, boundless, and without form; transforming,
    changing, never constant: are we dead? are we alive?
    do we stand side by side with Heaven and earth?

    do we move in the company of spiritual brightness?
    absent-minded, where are we going? forgetful,
    where are we headed for?

    The ten thousand things ranged all around us,
    not one of them is worthy to be singled out as our destination -
    there were those in ancient times who believed that the "art of the Way"
    lay in these things.

    Chuang Chou heard of their views and delighted in them.
    He expounded them in odd and outlandish terms, in brash
    and bombastic language, in unbound and unbordered phrases,
    abandoning himself to the times without partisanship,
    not looking at things from one angle only.

    He believed that the world was drowned in turbidness
    and that it was impossible to address it in sober language.
    So he used "goblet words" to pour out endless changes,
    "repeated words" to give a ring of truth, and
    "imputed words" to impart greater breadth.

    He came and went alone with the pure spirit of Heaven and earth,
    yet he did not view the ten thousand things with arrogant eyes.
    He did not scold over "right" and "wrong," but lived with the age
    and its vulgarity. Though his writings are a string of queer beads
    and baubles, they roll and rattle and do no one any harm.

    Though his words seem to be at sixes and sevens, yet
    among the sham and waggery there are things worth observing,
    for they are crammed with truths that never come to an end.

    Above he wandered with the Creator, below
    he made friends with those who have gotten outside
    of life and death, who know nothing of beginning or end.

    As for the Source, his grasp of it was broad, expansive,
    and penetrating; profound, liberal, and unimpeded.

    As for the Ancestor, he may be said to have tuned
    and accommodated himself to it and to have risen on it
    to the greatest heights. Nevertheless, in responding to change
    and expounding on the world of things, he set forth principles
    that will never cease to be valid, an approach that can never
    be shuffled off. Veiled and arcane, he is one who has never
    been completely comprehended. >>

    - Burton Watson
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Feb 3 13:11:37 2026
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    Watson translated:

    Chuang Chou heard of their views and delighted in them.
    He expounded them in odd and outlandish terms, in brash
    and bombastic language, in unbound and unbordered phrases,
    abandoning himself to the times without partisanship,
    not looking at things from one angle only.

    He believed that the world was drowned in turbidness
    and that it was impossible to address it in sober language.
    So he used "goblet words" to pour out endless changes, ...

    https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu3.html#27

    << Section TWENTY-SEVEN - IMPUTED WORDS

    IMPUTED WORDS MAKE up nine tenths of it;
    repeated words make up seven tenths of it;
    goblet words come forth day after day,
    harmonizing things in the Heavenly Equality.

    These imputed words which make up nine tenths of it
    are like persons brought in from outside for the purpose of exposition.
    A father does not act as go-between for his own son because the praises
    of the father would not be as effective as the praises of an outsider.
    It is the fault of other men, not mine [that I must resort to such a device, for if I were to speak in my own words], then men would respond only to what agrees with their own views and reject what does not, would pronounce "right" what agrees with their own views and "wrong" what does not.

    These repeated words which make up seven tenths of it
    are intended to put an end to argument. They can do this
    because they are the words of the elders. If, however,
    one is ahead of others in age but does not have a grasp
    of the warp and woof, the root and branch of things,
    that is commensurate with his years, then he is not really
    ahead of others. An old man who is not in some way ahead
    of others has not grasped the Way of man, and if he has not
    grasped the Way of man, he deserves to be looked on as a mere
    stale remnant of the past.

    With these goblet words that come forth day after day,
    I harmonize all things in the Heavenly Equality, leave them
    to their endless changes, and so live out my years.
    As long as I do not say anything about them,
    they are a unity. But the unity and
    what I say about it have ceased
    to be a unity; what I say
    and the unity have ceased
    to be a unity. Therefore I say,
    we must have no-words!

    With words that are no-words,
    you may speak all your life long
    and you will never have said anything.

    Or you may go through your whole life without speaking them,
    in which case you will never have stopped speaking.

    There is that which makes things acceptable,
    there is that which makes things unacceptable; ... >>

    - Watson
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Feb 3 13:16:02 2026
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    Watson translated:
    Watson translated:

    Chuang Chou ...

    https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu3.html#27

    With these goblet words that come forth day after day,
    I harmonize all things in the Heavenly Equality, leave them
    to their endless changes, and so live out my years.

    << ... there is that which makes things so,
    there is that which makes things not so. What makes them so?
    Making them so makes them so. What makes them not so? Making them
    not so makes them not so. What makes them acceptable?
    Making them acceptable makes them acceptable.
    What makes them not acceptable?
    Making them not acceptable makes them
    not acceptable. Things all must have that which is so;
    all must have that which is acceptable. There is nothing
    that is not so, nothing that is not acceptable.

    If there were no goblet words coming forth day after day
    to harmonize all by the Heavenly Equality, then how could I survive for long?

    The ten thousand things all come from the same seed,
    and with their different forms they give place to one another.
    Beginning and end are part of a single ring and no one can comprehend
    its principle. This is called Heaven the Equalizer, which is the same
    as the Heavenly Equality. >>

    - Watson
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  • From Genshin Impact fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Feb 3 16:29:10 2026
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    Genshin Impact fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    rCLI was on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. There was a hidden compartment below deck. I saw them drag a small child into it. Bloodied knives were on a table nearby. Then I heard screams, while those powerful men raised their glasses and laughed. The meat on the table looked strangerConothing like regular beef or pork. Later, I witnessed an infant being dismembered. Some of the men took out the intestines and ate the contents inside.rCY




    Long GeN+edragon broN+e Commentary: Unbelievable! The Moral Bottom Line of America's Elite Has Once Again Defied the Imagination of the Chinese People




    Without the Epstein case, just how low could the moralo|ot|+ (bottom line) of AmericarCOs ruling elite possibly sink? ItrCOs something the Chinese people simply couldnrCOt have imagined.

    To truly understand the real America, merely describing the suffering of its lower and middle classes is no longer sufficient. The so-called rCLculling linerCY targeting ordinary Americans can no longer fully capture the evils of capitalist societyrCobecause the upper class largely exists outside this rCLcullingrCY framework altogether. Their depravity is hidden within the secrets of rCLLolita Island.rCY

    With the U.S. Department of Justice recently releasing another batch of documents related to the Jeffrey Epstein case, the puzzle of American society has finally begun to take a more complete shaperCothough even now, itrCOs only rCLbasicallyrCY complete. The true core circlerCothe powerful capitalist dynasties who actually control AmericarColikely operates in even more secretive enclaves. Their crimes may only be fully exposed after the American people rise up, overthrow the current system, and carry out a systematic class reckoning against their rulers. But when that might happen remains unknown.

    TodayrCOs Americans are filled with anger and confusion. TheyrCOre losing faith in their country, yet most donrCOt know what to do. A few realize that only socialism can save AmericarCobut their voices remain too faint to be heard.

    This latest release from the U.S. Department of Justice includes 3.5 million pages of documents, 2,000 videos, and 180,000 imagesrComaterials gathered over the past 20 years of investigations into Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell. Among the revelations:

    - Emails showing Bill Gates contracted an STD at an event and secretly sought antibiotics for treatment.
    - Records confirming Bill Clinton took multiple flights on the rCLLolita Express.rCY
    - Photos depicting Prince Andrew kneeling on and sexually assaulting a minor. - Email correspondence between Elon Musk and Epstein discussing a potential visit to the island rCLto relax.rCY
    - Accusations and reports involving Donald Trump, the Clintons, and George H.W. Bush.

    Even as die-hard rCLspiritual AmericansrCY desperately try to deny the reality of rCLLolita Island,rCY the web of evil woven by AmericarCOs elite can no longer be concealed. Many now believerConot merely suspectrCothat the Lolita Island scandal is just the tip of a vast, dark underworld industry.

    Given the sheer volume of newly released materials, people are still sifting through the information. Moreover, nearly 3 million additional Epstein-related documents remain classified. Logically, itrCOs precisely these unreleased files that likely contain the most shocking violations of human morality and law.

    Even the already-public content has left many mentally overwhelmedrCounable to process the words without recoiling in horror. These are acts that seem utterly inhuman.

    Those implicated in the Lolita Island affair are no ordinary individuals. Figures like Trump, Clinton, George H.W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, and Elon MuskrCopillars of Western high societyrCoare now linked together through EpsteinrCOs records. There is little doubt that AmericarCOs elite engaged in moral degradation, hedonistic excess, and crimes against minors on that island.

    Yet not a single one of these prominent figures has faced legal consequences.

    American films such asEyes Wide Shut have long hinted at similar scenarios. Director Stanley Kubrick died shortly after submitting his final cutrCoperhaps because such plots seemed too outrageous for audiences to believe could exist in modern reality.

    Now, the public is especially eager to verify the authenticity of document #FK-00147661, which describes infants being dismembered aboard a yacht, their intestines harvested and consumed in ritualistic cannibalism. Although the U.S. Department of Justice has stated that such extreme allegations lack credible physical evidence or corroborating testimonyrCoand may stem from misinterpretations or exaggerations of sexual violence scenesrCothey were never formally included in judicial investigations. Nevertheless, public suspicion persists.

    Rumors have long circulated about such rituals among Western elites. Recently, many recalled the 2009 incident in Mexico, where cartel leader Sergio Mart|!nez MendozarCoafter attending a gathering of high-society figuresrCosuddenly ran into the street, hysterically shouting, rCLTheyrCOre eating people!rCY

    In 2020, a Turkish television program explored the connection between rCLadrenochromerCY (a substance allegedly extracted from childrenrCOs adrenal glands) and the global crisis of missing children.

    No matter how hard rCLspiritual AmericansrCY try to defend their image, AmericarCOs reputation has now officially passed the point of no return.

    ItrCOs not just the content of these documents that leaves them flusteredrCoitrCOs also the timing of their release. Just as they were emerging from prolonged silence on the rCLculling linerCY discourse, preparing to distort LaoArCOs remarks into an attack on all international students and women, and leveraging mainstream media credibility to frame the narrative (a tactic theyrCOve used beforerCoe.g., labeling criticism of Lenovo or CATL as rCLanti-private enterpriserCY sentiment)rCothey were blindsided by this explosive new leak.

    Suddenly, LaoArCOs previous critiques of America now seem almost mild by comparisonrColike comparing a small fire to a raging inferno.

    Many once genuinely believed America was a heavenly utopia. Through persistent effort, we gradually revealed it as a nation disguised as a corporationrCowhere capital reigns supreme, every institution is deeply entangled with financial interests, healthcare is engineered for monopolistic profit, and even philanthropy serves as a tax-avoidance scheme for the ultra-wealthy.

    The rCLculling linerCY discourse exposed how American capitalism doesnrCOt just extract wealthrCoit demands lives, turning the country into a state-run rCLslaughterhouse parkrCY that drains every drop of value from its citizens.

    But now, with the Epstein files, we realize we still underestimated America. Some now describe it as a rCLstate disguised as an animal farm.rCY

    Compared to these revelations, AmericarCOs 100+ gender identities and the chaotic spectacles at the Paris Olympics now seem trivialrCopale in emotional and visual impact.

    When capitalism merges with Western religious traditions, this is the monstrous outcome.

    Through the convergence of Sino-American online debates, the rCLculling linerCY discourse, and the Epstein revelations, the true nature of Western civilization has finally been laid bare before the world.

    If the rCLculling mechanismrCY represents capitalismrCOs systemic elimination of the lower and middle classes, then rCLLolita IslandrCY embodies the systemic rot of capitalism and the comprehensive moral collapse of Western civilization.

    No matter how advanced Western technology or productivity becomes, it cannot constitute true civilization. When its ruling elite are filled with degenerates and monsters, how can they possibly lead society toward genuine human progress?

    The West has only crossed the threshold of modern civilization with one footrCoits material productivity. Spiritually and culturally, it remains mired in barbarism and primitivism.

    As we noted in a previous videorCorCLEven Elon Musk Is Turning to Marx: The Dawn of a Greater Human Miracle Is NearrCYrCothe following lines feel perfectly apt here:
    rCLWestern modernity is but a patchwork creaturerCohalf traditional, half modern; half enlightened, half savage.rCY

    In such an environment, itrCOs nearly impossible for individuals to become fully realized human beings. Many havenrCOt just failed to enter the modern era mentallyrCotheyrCOve regressed into something half-human, half-beast.

    Now, ordinary Americans themselves are reeling from the Epstein revelations. Only now do they realizerCoor are forced to admitrCothat they are ruled by monsters. They were taught that America symbolizes freedom and civilization, yet the truth is grotesque, filthy, and perverse beyond language.

    Thus, AmericarCOs image has rapidly transformedrCofrom beacon of civilization to emblem of barbarism. The capitalist narrative that equates rCLWest = civilized, Rest = barbaricrCY is finally being corrected. Who truly represents civilization, and who embodies barbarism, is now crystal clear.

    America today exhibits all the hallmarks of late-stage capitalism:
    - Virtual finance dominates the real economy.
    - Financial capital controls every aspect of society.
    - Government debt spirals out of control.
    - Ordinary people face unbearable survival pressures.
    - Cultural decay is impossible to conceal.

    From the Sino-American online reckoning to LaoArCOs exposure of AmericarCOs rCLculling line,rCY Chinese netizens have ignited a wave of ideological awakeningrCoa critical reexamination of capitalism through the lens of America itself.

    This latest Epstein disclosure will prompt people worldwide to reassess their views of the West and join a broader critique of capitalism and Western civilization as a whole.

    Humanity now possesses unprecedented productive capacityrCowealth is nearly abundant enough for all. Yet poverty persists, hunger worsens, and inequality deepens. This contradiction itself is a silent indictment of capitalism. But for decades, capitalist hegemony over discourserCoespecially after the Cold War, with no socialist bloc to provide counter-pressurerCoconstructed a global information bubble. The world, wearing ideological filters, idolized America as the model of development and mistook capitalist jungle law for rCLfreedom and democracy.rCY

    Conscious, systematic critique of capitalism was thus delayedrCountil 2025, when it finally gained breakthrough momentum.

    By January 2026, AmericarCothe most advanced capitalist nationrCosaw its civilizational facade collapse entirely. The systematic, brutal exploitation of its middle and lower classes revived classic Marxist critiques of capitalism.

    And now, in February 2026, the veil over Western civilization itself has been torn away by the Epstein disclosures.

    Consider this: at the pinnacle of the Western world stand not enlightened leaders, but soulless, inhuman predators. This is not just a tragedy for ordinary WesternersrCoitrCOs a bitter irony for all humanity.

    Our struggle with America is no longer merely about national interest, ethnic rivalry, or class conflict. It has become a battle between humanity and a cabal of subhuman entities seeking global domination.

    As one blogger remarked:
    rCLAfter this, I finally understand why we must advocate for rCyOne World, Shared FuturerCO and a rCyCommunity with a Shared Future for Humanity.rCO Because humanityrCOs hope truly lies only with us.rCY
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Feb 3 23:24:31 2026
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    Genshin Impact fan posted:

    Long GeN+edragon broN+e Commentary: Unbelievable!
    The Moral Bottom Line of America's Elite
    Has Once Again Defied the Imagination
    of the Chinese People

    A lack of imagination is not necessarily good.

    Speaking of Daoism, the dao that are dao, may
    be similar in various ways. Many can be imagined
    and of use however, the Dao that is fei chang Dao
    may be said to be totally beyond imagination.

    Beyond words, names, ming, etc.
    Some say it's impossible to walk it.
    Sayings vary and often point.

    One feature of the Dao that can be imagined is wu-wei.
    Dao chang wu wei is a figure of speech.
    Ice thicknesses vary.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From eye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Wed Feb 4 00:07:58 2026
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    aye posted:
    Genshin Impact fan posted:

    Long GeN+edragon broN+e Commentary: Unbelievable!
    The Moral Bottom Line of America's Elite
    Has Once Again Defied the Imagination
    of the Chinese People

    A lack of imagination is not necessarily good.

    Speaking of Daoism,

    Gasp!

    the dao that are dao, may
    be similar in various ways.

    Dao that are imagined are not always the Dao.

    If what defies imagination is a dao,
    then perhaps the Elites that can't be, are
    following a dao of a sort naturally
    unless theirs is unnatural.

    Many can be imagined
    and of use however, the Dao that is fei chang Dao
    may be said to be totally beyond imagination.

    Generalizations, generally speaking,
    are not always true. Perhaps some people
    whether they live in a geographical area
    known by a name can or can't imagine what
    people in some other area do, have done,
    are said to do or have done could be
    a question.

    Take the first so-called emperor of Qin
    aka Chin from which a name might derive.

    He imagined he could be an immortal
    using a form of alchemy that didn't work.

    Some say he ate mercury. Imagine
    thinking that would do something.
    Well, it did, if it did and did not
    prove to be what makes an immortal.

    Beyond words, names, ming, etc.

    When everyone knows what mortality is,
    then, given a form of DDJ 2, immortality
    could be on the table without legs.

    Some say it's impossible to walk it.
    Sayings vary and often point.

    Some people can't imagine being neither
    mortal nor not mortal as a dao.

    One feature of the Dao that can be imagined is wu-wei.

    Techniques vary.

    Dao chang wu wei is a figure of speech.

    In the Zhuangzi mention is made of no self.

    Ice thicknesses vary.

    When ice is thin, another DDJ verse emerges.
    It has something to do with the ancients.

    How to describe them.

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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Wed Feb 4 00:11:14 2026
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    eye posted:

    When ice is thin, another DDJ verse emerges.
    It has something to do with the ancients.

    How to describe them.

    In the Dao De Jing, rCLthe ancientsrCY
    are held up as early sages who lived
    in deep accord with the Dao.

    They arenrCOt described as powerful rulers
    or clever thinkers, but as subtle, restrained,
    and inwardly grounded people.

    Chapter 15 gives the clearest portrait.

    The ancients are portrayed as:
    Deep and unfathomable rCo hard to fully know or pin down
    Careful and cautious rCo like someone crossing a frozen river
    Humble and yielding rCo not pushing themselves forward
    Calm and patient rCo allowing things to settle on their own
    Simple and unassuming rCo not flashy, not assertive

    They act without forcing, speak little, and avoid extremes.
    Their wisdom shows up in how they donrCOt interfere.
    Because they donrCOt try to control things,
    harmony naturally emerges around them.

    Overall, the ancients represent an ideal way of being:
    quiet alignment with the Dao, living simply, responding gently,
    and trusting the natural order rather than imposing personal will.

    - ChatGPT
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  • From someone@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Wed Feb 4 09:04:51 2026
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    Genshin Impact fan posted:

    We often say that reality is stranger than fiction ...

    After reading the entire Epstein dossier, ...

    Someone may recall the number cited as
    three million pages. That's a big dossier.

    How long it took to read may be a question.

    We once truly believed in the myth of the rCLcity upon a hill.rCY

    Who is, we, could be a question.

    Many if not most people believe in myths of nation states
    of mind as their reality is unable to not believe.

    Some people draw lines between compass points
    for example, east and west if not north and south.

    Then, caught up in their world-view, think.

    We thought their wealth came from hard work,

    Logic can be used at times to suggest
    what might have been true isn't always true.

    Ancient and modern forms of wealth
    might have been inherited, stolen, etc.

    Dynasties were common and continue.

    To think in terms of us and them
    is also common and continues.

    their strength from democracy,

    Sounds like generalization is a world-view.

    Seems to be the author is dividing the world
    into something like Western and Chinese. As if
    there is such a division in a reality frame.

    What can be true, valid logically,
    might not be sound, given various premises.

    When premises are taken for granted
    the value of what truth exists may vary.

    And yet they still dare lecture China on human rights? ...

    Gemini writes:

    << ... sex trafficking is a widespread and documented issue in China.
    As of 2025, the U.S. State Department continues to rank China as a Tier 3 countryrCothe lowest possible rankingrCoindicating that the government does not
    meet minimum standards for eliminating trafficking and is not making significant efforts to do so.

    Primary Forms of Sex Trafficking in China
    Sex trafficking in China is driven largely by a severe gender imbalance resulting from the former one-child policy and a cultural preference for sons.

    Forced and Fraudulent Marriages (Bride Trafficking):
    This is one of the most common forms. Thousands of women and girls
    from neighboring countriesrCoincluding Myanmar, Vietnam, North Korea,
    and PakistanrCoare lured with false promises of work or marriage,
    only to be sold to Chinese men. Once in China, they are often
    subjected to sexual slavery, forced childbearing,
    and domestic servitude.

    Commercial Sexual Exploitation: Victims are recruited through deceptive
    job ads for modeling or waitressing and then forced into prostitution
    in brothels, massage parlors, karaoke bars, and "online rape dens"
    for live digital streaming.

    Vulnerability of North Korean Refugees:
    Many North Korean women fleeing to China are kidnapped or sold upon arrival. Because they lack legal status, they are highly vulnerable to traffickers;
    if caught by Chinese authorities, they are often repatriated to North Korea, where they face severe punishment.

    Government Response and Complicity
    State-Sponsored Forced Labor: Reports indicate a pattern of widespread
    forced labor and sexual violence targeting ethnic and religious minorities, particularly in the Xinjiang region.

    Official Complicity: There are persistent reports of local officials
    and police benefiting from or directly facilitating sex trafficking.
    The government has not reported any significant investigations or
    prosecutions of complicit employees in recent years.

    Punishment of Victims: Authorities frequently penalize trafficking victims through arrest and deportation for "unlawful acts" like prostitution or illegal entry, rather than identifying them as victims and providing services.

    International Reach
    The problem is not confined to China's borders.
    Chinese transnational criminal organizations operate sex trafficking rings
    in more than 80 countries, often targeting Chinese nationals in diaspora communities across Asia, Europe, and Africa. Recent cases in Serbia (late 2025) led to the first-ever conviction of a Chinese citizen for trafficking women into sexual slavery within that country. >>

    << In summary, while EpsteinrCOs business interests and influence-seeking
    were deeply tied to China, the specific recruitment of sex trafficking victims from China has not been as extensively documented in the files as his operations
    in the U.S. and Eastern Europe. >>

    Associating with people goes along with a saying
    called, guilt by association.

    Lots of places on the surface
    of a world are great and lots of places
    are very bad and where to find good and bad
    could depend on what is being looked for.

    Bashing and trashing the good with the bad
    is possible if that is what is being done.

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  • From Insta360 fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 05:02:34 2026
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    Genshin Impact fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    rCLI was on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. There was a hidden compartment below deck. I saw them drag a small child into it. Bloodied knives were on a table nearby. Then I heard screams, while those powerful men raised their glasses and laughed. The meat on the table looked strangerConothing like regular beef or pork. Later, I witnessed an infant being dismembered. Some of the men took out the intestines and ate the contents inside.rCY


    Today, let's talk about the Epstein case, which has once again sparked widespread attention due to the release of new batches of materials.

    First, a small anecdote. When I first saw related news on "RT," I specifically reminded the editor: Did you make a mistake? Is it "300 pages" or "3 million pages"? The editor confirmed that it was 3 million pagesrCoand thatrCOs just the documents. If photos, videos, and other materials are included, the total amounts to roughly 6 million pages. Someone gave me an analogy: 3 million pages of A4 paper stacked up would be about 3,000 meters tall. This physical scale might help us grasp the "volume" of this case.

    The timeline of this case is long. The first investigation began in 2005 when Florida received a report and launched an investigation into Epstein. Three years later, in 2008, Epstein reached a deal with prosecutors, pleading guilty to two counts of "soliciting prostitution from a minor." He was ultimately sentenced to 18 months in prison, serving 13 months. Nearly a decade later, in July 2019, Epstein was arrested again, charged with "conspiracy to traffic and sexually exploit underage girls," among other charges, facing up to 45 years in prison. However, just about a month after this arrest, he died in a New York prison, officially ruled a suicide.

    Another three years later, in June 2022, EpsteinrCOs accomplice and former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, was sentenced to 20 years in prison for trafficking underage girls for sexual exploitation. From 2024 to the present, documents related to the case have begun to be released. But note a key detail: The U.S. Attorney General has publicly and clearly stated that, based on existing evidence, no new criminal charges will be filed.

    What does this mean? From a criminal perspective, two people were prosecuted: the main perpetrator, Epstein, "committed suicide" in prison; the accomplice, Maxwell, was sentenced to 20 years. As for what the public is most concerned aboutrCothose "clients" suspected of sexually exploiting minorsrCothey will not face criminal prosecution.

    Meanwhile, numerous civil lawsuits are underway. EpsteinrCOs estate management has paid approximately $125 million in compensation, covering more than 200 women who filed claims. This is a feature of the U.S. justice system: Civil compensation provides a relatively fast resolution channel, avoiding lengthy criminal proceedings. However, this also means that those "clients" escape judicial accountability. Even some institutions that did business with Epstein have taken responsibility. For example, JPMorgan Chase paid $290 million in settlements for maintaining business ties with Epstein after his initial conviction.

    Regarding the released documents, one point must be made clear: The currently disclosed materials, totaling over 3 million pages, represent only half of the total. These contents are a mixed bag, containing many unverified allegations. But what this exposes is a core issue: For such cases, we typically expect the national legal system to investigate and prosecute in the public interest to uphold justice. This case, however, has followed a different path: Prosecute two "frontline figures," then offer victims two optionsrCoeither pursue lengthy, uncertain criminal proceedings or accept monetary settlements through civil lawsuits. Objectively, the recent developments are thought-provoking. This method of information disclosure is essentially a very American-style operation. Here, justice is thoroughly instrumentalized, with its primary purpose not being to protect vulnerable groups or uphold societal ethical standards, but to serve a clear, direct, and even brutal American political and governance logic.

    This manifests mainly on two levels:

    First, political transactions. Why release such a massive volume of ambiguous "materials" at this time and in this manner? This is itself a political calculation. For example, former U.S. President Bill Clinton and his wife have been subpoenaed by Congress because of this. One can reasonably imagine that these materials and the social discontent they incite will become bargaining chips in American bipartisan politicsrCowhether in the upcoming midterm elections or looking ahead to the 2028 presidential election, related political forces may engage in private negotiations and interest exchanges around these materials.

    Second, this is a typical example of American-style low-human-rights governance logic: You want the truth? IrCOll give you informationrCovast amounts of it, mixed with truth and falsehood, overwhelming your ability to process it. The public can only grasp fragments and piecemeal details, engaging in wave after wave of "carnival-style" venting in the court of public opinion. Ultimately, this emotion will not lead to problem-solving but will instead give rise to more label-driven conspiracy theories, urban legends, and disinformation, pitting different groups against one another in low-level conflicts.

    A typical example is the widely circulated photo in recent days of "chicken with a mosaic in the middle." The facts are clear: That photo bears a watermark in the bottom right corner and is the only image with a watermark in the PDF files released by the Department of Justice. It is an artistic photo posted online by a male erotic performance artist, created based on vegetarian ideals, with the mosaic applied as a standard "18+" content filter. However, someone intentionally cropped out the watermark on social media, showing only the middle part and pairing it with suggestive questions, thereby generating a wave of highly sensational but entirely factually distorted speculative discussions. This is the embodiment of its governance logic: Let the public argue and vent over fragmented information until they tire themselves out. When someone presses for answers, they can calmly respond, "Insufficient evidence; it's just an artistic photo." Once the media buzz fades, public attention naturally shifts to the next hot topic. The entire process is akin to "lying flat and giving up," without even the most basic facaderCothe procedures are complete, the documents are given to you, yourCOre "free to discuss," so what more do you want?

    As for deeper truths, such as whether Epstein was connected to Israeli intelligence agencies, no one pursues them anymore. Because the "due process" has been completed, what it shows you is precisely the real operational posture of the American legal system.

    From this, we can at least clarify a few questions:

    First, why are conspiracy theories and urban legends so prevalent in the U.S.?

    The answer might be: All problems are institutional problems. The original intent of this systemrCOs design was to "protect freedom," but in essence, it protects the freedom of property owners. If you possess sufficient assets or enter specific social circles, you gain a kind of "extralegal privilege." We see some European officials resigning under pressure after appearing on related listsrCothis is a political resolution, but by no means the dispensation of judicial justice. After this incident, the filter of "defender of social fairness and justice" that the U.S. justice system wore during its long-term soft power expansion and ideological propaganda has, if not completely shattered, been severely damaged. These individuals can indeed place themselves above the law, face legal sanctions in name only, all under the guise of "due process."

    Second, whom does American law serve?

    The answer is clear: Capital and the wealthy. This results in an objective fact: Wealthy individuals who sexually exploited minors on that island can escape unscathed, at most paying civil compensation. This also explains why, in European and American film and television works, crimes committed by the powerful often rely on "self-help justice" or vigilantism rather than legal recourse. Further, the "light criminal law" trend favored by European and American legal circles is related to this: The lighter the criminal penalties, the easier it is for the wealthy to resolve problems with money, obtaining de facto extralegal privileges.

    Undoubtedly, from a jurisprudential value perspective, this system should not be a model for us to learn from or emulate. Instead, it should serve as a cautionary tale, warning us never to allow such logic to erode our own judicial system.

    Furthermore, how is the Epstein case connected to the previously widely discussed concept of the "beheading line"?

    In my view, together they outline the dark side of the "beacon." For ordinary people unable to enter EpsteinrCOs "Lolita Island" circle, they face immense insecurity and anxiety under the "beheading line" mechanism, struggling to survive. On the other side, the elite, relying on wealth and power, place themselves above the law, acting like gods in the clouds or demons in subspace, free to do as they please.

    For example: Could EpsteinrCOs parties have been free of drugs (or "medications" in the American context)? Some photos clearly show pills. But has anyone thoroughly investigated the source and abuse of these drugs? No. This, in turn, explains why the American drug control system never truly tackles the demand siderCoordinary people may fall into the trap of drug abuse due to pain or lack of healthcare, while the elite use drugs for "entertainment." When even sexual exploitation of minors goes unpunished, who has the incentive to curb their drug demand? Thus, we see a more complete dark picture of the "beacon": The lower class struggles under the "beheading line," while the elite enjoy extralegal lives on "Lolita Island." This mechanism is deeply embedded in European and American power structures.

    Epstein was essentially a power broker, operating a vast, fraternity-like network of influence. Being on the list is, to some extent, a kind of "blood oath" or circle credential. An interesting detail: The current U.S. president has a strained relationship with former Federal Reserve Chair Powell, who does not appear on the currently released list. However, the new chair he appointed "coincidentally" appears on the list.

    Faced with skepticism, Western media outlets like Sky News resort to standard "professionalism" rhetoric: "Being on the list does not mean breaking the law." Such "correct but meaningless" statements leave one speechless, reminiscent of the phrase "I have never seen someone so shameless." They avoid questioning the judicial systemrCOs duty to investigate, emphasizing only "procedural correctness." At what cost? Loss of public trust, social disorder, public disillusionment, and group fragmentation. But no one seems to care. In the eyes of decision-makers, this might be their governance model: Using chaos among the lower class and sacrificing government credibility to maintain a cold, minimal level of order. To them, everything can be resolved with moneyrCo"You want justice? Tell me how much per pound."

    This constant lowering of standards and "information pollution" operation, in the long run, creates confusion. In the future, when people discuss the Epstein case again, someone might point to that distorted artistic photo and say, "This one is fake, so all related allegations are fake." They use the distortion of individual details to deny the existence of the overall problem. This systemrCOs strategy is not to improve governance but to continually lower public expectations. Once expectations are lowered, even a terrible status quo seems "acceptable" by comparison.

    The result is the apathy, indifference, and powerlessness observed by many in the American public. Because they have no real choice. You chose this system; encountering outcomes like the Epstein case is inevitable. This also deconstructs the condescending "American-style civilizing discourse"rCoyour strength may be supported by advanced technology, but the price paid might be the loss of humanity, the trampling of dignity, and the complete deconstruction of morality. You have nothing to do with "civilization."

    Even the public reputations of the celebrities on the list have collapsed, and no one truly cares about maintaining the image of America as the "beacon of the free world." Ironically, those seriously discussing this case today are mostly Chinese. American disillusionment runs deep, which also explains the "North American cowardice" behavior during the previous "Minnesota incident"rCowhen Chinese netizens asked, "Why donrCOt you resist?" What would they gain from resisting? Without ideological guidance, lacking organization and education, resistance either devolves into "guns as stationery" infighting among the lower class or turns into individual acts of revenge like the "Luigi" incident. The latter is quickly consumed by online traffic and politicians, unable to bring about systemic change. Everything sinks into a low-morality, even amoral, chaotic cycle akin to subspace whispers. For the American public, this is profound despair and powerlessness.

    So, from the perspective of the Chinese people? I believe any rational Chinese person today would have a simple thought: Thank goodness I wasnrCOt born in the U.S. Fortunately, this happened under their system. This reinforces our conclusion: Only socialism can save China, and only the Communist Party of China can lead China. Without such a party, system, and path design, no one can escape the pitfalls and dilemmas of the development model represented by the U.S.

    From the "great reckoning" discussion at the beginning of 2023 about "drinking coffee stained with blood," to the "beheading line" concept at the end of the year providing a new lens to examine American society, to the unfolding of Epstein documents in early 2024rCowe are systematically seeing the back and dark side of this "beacon" from a level or even overlook perspective: From the lower class "beheading line" to the upper class "Lolita Island," a complete picture is gradually coming into focus.

    Some say that at this juncture of international systemic change and the transition between old and new orders, such events give us a more comprehensive and sober understanding of the real logic of how the world operates. There will inevitably be shock and complex feelings, but ultimately, we will more clearly, explicitly, and firmly recognize the path beneath our feet and choose our direction of development.

    For China, this is a symbolic moment in the process of the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. Cases from the external world help us understand this world more deeply and clarify our own mission and direction. This might be one of the greatest insights we can gain from the Epstein case.
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 12:07:40 2026
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    Insta360 fan posted:

    Today, let's talk about the Epstein case,

    Why?
    What does it have to do with Taoism?

    First, a small anecdote.

    Once upon a time, a dao was the dao.

    When I first saw related news on "RT,"

    ChatGPT says: << RTrCOs coverage tends to mix
    reporting with commentary and geopolitical critique,
    and some of the narratives in its stories reflect
    broader disinformation battles around high-profile
    scandals. Evaluating these pieces alongside other
    major outlets helps clarify which claims are
    supported by evidence and which are speculative
    or politically framed. >>

    Some say that at this juncture of international systemic change
    and the transition between old and new orders, such events give us

    You and a group of some sort?

    a more comprehensive and sober understanding of the real logic
    of how the world operates.

    The media that are the media ...

    There will inevitably be shock and complex feelings,
    but ultimately, we will more clearly, explicitly,
    and firmly recognize the path beneath our feet and
    choose our direction of development.

    The more development that goes on, a wonder
    could be if it's going toward or away from a Dao
    described using words in the basic texts.

    For China,

    A land defined by artificial lines?

    this is a symbolic moment in the process
    of the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation.

    What constitutes a nation is of interest to me.

    A country, a political form of government, might
    be called a nation with nations of people who live
    inside or outside the lines drawn on maps.

    In ancient times, kings rules various areas.

    Whether Chu, Song, Yue, Chin, Han and other
    people were called nations or states may be
    a question, or not.

    Take the people who are now called Vietnamese.
    Is Vietnam a nation? Was Tibet? Are all people
    who are surrounded by an army and cannot leave
    to form their own country, a nation? Turks and
    Mongolians, Manchu people or Koreans north or
    south. Is North Korea a nation or are Koreans.

    Words often have more than one meaning.

    Zhuangzi may have spoken about communication.
    What's the point of speaking or writing.

    How does a Tao of Taoism enter a picture.

    Cases from the external world

    So, there is internal and external.
    Us and them. Not simply one world.
    Not planet Earth as a whole.

    help us understand this world more deeply

    By chopping the world in half.

    and clarify our own mission and direction.

    There is a mission? Sinicization?

    This might be one of the greatest insights
    we can gain from the Epstein case.

    When everyone knows what a thing is, then
    what is not that thing emerges from a view.

    Seeing all things as internal or external,
    being on a mission to do, could be yu-wei.

    What is Tao and not Tao may
    be similar as well as found inside
    the texts if not outside.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 12:11:46 2026
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    aye posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    Today, let's talk

    What does it have to do with Taoism?

    and clarify our own mission and direction.

    There is a mission? Sinicization?

    Sinicization means shaping people, places, or ideas
    to align with dominant Chinese culture, language, and political norms.
    How far it extends depends on the domain.

    Culture & language
    Strongest reach.
    Mandarin promoted as the primary public language.
    Local languages and customs allowed mainly in private or folkloric settings.

    Religion
    Significant reach.
    Religions expected to adapt doctrine, leadership, and practice to state goals. Seen clearly with Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, and folk beliefs.

    Education & history
    Very deep reach.
    School curricula emphasize unified national identity
    and approved historical narratives.

    Alternative interpretations are limited.

    Governance & law
    Extensive reach.
    Local autonomy exists on paper, but central political authority dominates. Party leadership overrides ethnic or regional traditions.

    Economy & daily life
    Moderate to strong reach.
    Integration into national markets, standards, and work culture.
    Urbanization accelerates cultural blending.

    Technology & media
    Very strong reach.
    Digital platforms reinforce language use, norms, and political messaging.

    Outside China
    Limited.
    Appears through diaspora communities, cultural institutes, media, and traderCo but no direct control.

    In short: deepest in culture, language, education, and religion inside China; lighter outside borders; always guided by political authority
    rather than organic cultural spread.

    - ChatGPT
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  • From eye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 12:13:44 2026
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    ChatGPT posted:
    aye posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    Today, let's talk

    What does it have to do with Taoism?

    and clarify our own mission and direction.

    There is a mission? Sinicization?

    Sinicization means shaping people, places, or ideas
    to align with dominant Chinese culture, language, and political norms.
    How far it extends depends on the domain.

    In short: deepest in culture, language, education, and religion inside China;
    lighter outside borders; always guided by political authority
    rather than organic cultural spread.

    Organic cultural spread could be said
    to be more in keeping with natural flow
    and lines not on maps.

    - thanks. Cheers!
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  • From someone@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 12:20:15 2026
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    eye posted:
    ChatGPT posted:
    aye posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    Today, let's talk

    What does it have to do with Taoism?

    In short: ... always guided by political authority
    rather than organic cultural spread.

    Organic cultural spread could be said
    to be more in keeping with natural flow
    and lines not on maps.

    Ironic, perhaps, what is adopted by people naturally.
    Forms of dress and shopping for technologies developed
    in regions seen as a point on a compass for example.

    To intentionally spread blue jeans or a suit and tie
    with dress shoes or tennis shoes might have been
    what was on the mind of Levi Strauss or Apple
    after Steve Jobs stopped or started wearing them.

    Most, but not all, people are born with bare feet.
    Some are born without any feet. No body is ever born
    wearing shoes. Such could be to say the least.

    - thanks! Cheers!
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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 12:23:10 2026
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    someone posted:

    Most, but not all, people are born with bare feet.
    Some are born without any feet. No body is ever born
    wearing shoes. Such could be to say the least.

    Steve Jobs was known to go barefoot,
    especially in the 1970s and early Apple years.

    Influenced by Zen Buddhism and counterculture.
    Often walked barefoot at home, in public, and sometimes at work.

    Early Apple coworkers recalled meetings where Jobs had no shoes.
    The habit faded later, but casual dress remained part of his image.
    It became part of the mythology around his unconventional
    lifestyle and thinking.

    - ChatGPT
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  • From one@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 12:28:16 2026
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    ChatGPT posted:

    Steve Jobs was known to go barefoot,
    especially in the 1970s and early Apple years.

    Influenced by Zen Buddhism and counterculture.

    Zen practitioners from China went to Japan and
    whether it was yu-wei, wu-wei or wei-wu-wei may
    be a question one could ask.

    From India, dhyana was said to be a form
    which when it met Chuang Tzu and other forms
    of writing called Tao Chia, changed a bit.

    Often walked barefoot at home, in public, and sometimes at work.

    When some body is elevated in status
    to being more than a mere mortal, at times
    they might be seen as a kind of immortal.

    Early Apple coworkers recalled meetings where Jobs had no shoes.
    The habit faded later, but casual dress remained part of his image.
    It became part of the mythology around his unconventional
    lifestyle and thinking.

    Whether Steve was drawn organically
    to kick the habit or was drawn by
    financial gain or some other cause,
    to say he had or didn't have the Tao
    could be a saying said.

    - thanks! Cheers!
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 14:01:01 2026
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    one posted:

    Whether Steve was drawn organically
    to kick the habit or was drawn by
    financial gain or some other cause,
    to say he had or didn't have the Tao
    could be a saying said.

    Well, he certainly wasn't invisible.

    A butcher like Ting was visible
    and could be said to have said what he liked
    or loved the most was Tao. He appears to have had
    a dao of carving the bull if nothing else, wei-wu-wei.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From eye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu Feb 5 14:11:27 2026
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    aye posted:
    one posted:

    Whether Steve was ...
    to say he had or didn't have the Tao
    could be a saying said.

    Well, he certainly wasn't invisible.

    A butcher like Ting was visible
    and could be said to have said what he liked
    or loved the most was Tao. He appears to have had
    a dao of carving the bull if nothing else, wei-wu-wei.

    Asking a form of ChatGPT about people, the bot wrote:

    << Fame does not automatically preclude someone
    from being called TaoistrCobut it does make the label uneasy
    and often provisional.

    Taoism cares more about how power is used than whether power exists.

    Figures often described as rCLTaoist-likerCY
    Not formal Taoists, but often cited because their conduct
    echoes Taoist principles:

    World leaders

    Deng Xiaoping rCo pragmatic, flexible, avoided ideology,
    emphasized adapting to conditions.

    Abraham Lincoln (retrospectively) rCo minimal ego display,
    patience, letting forces unfold rather than forcing outcomes. >>

    - hmmm ... Cheers!
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  • From Insta360 fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 17:30:56 2026
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    Genshin Impact fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    rCLI was on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. There was a hidden compartment below deck. I saw them drag a small child into it. Bloodied knives were on a table nearby. Then I heard screams, while those powerful men raised their glasses and laughed. The meat on the table looked strangerConothing like regular beef or pork. Later, I witnessed an infant being dismembered. Some of the men took out the intestines and ate the contents inside.rCY




    This is a bizarre video recording from 2009. The famous Spanish model Gabriela suddenly fled onto the street after attending a wealthy banquet, screaming "They eat people!" Eventually, Gabriela was taken away by the police and disappeared without a trace, never to be heard from again. Although there were rumors online, the official explanation at the time was that Gabriela suffered from a mental illness; therefore, her words were always considered the ravings of a madwoman.
    However, in Western folklore, there have always been legends about the dark secrets of the entertainment industry. The protagonist of *Home Alone* once revealed in an interview that a tycoon once threatened him with a pair of red leather shoes, claiming that the shoes were made from the skin of a child star girl, while the news reported that the girl died of a sudden illness. The interview was deleted from the internet within 24 hours after it was published, but this terrifying legend has been passed down, seemingly echoing many other stories. This isrCothe Red Shoe Club.
    According to Western folklore, the Red Shoe Club is a secret organization. It is said that the members of this organization are either the incredibly wealthy or those who hold political or religious power. These people collude with each other to steal massive amounts of social wealth. They often share the same religious beliefs and do not view ordinary people as human beings, so their hands are stained with blood. After forming an alliance of interests, in order to have leverage over each other, they often use ordinary people as sacrifices for group slaughter.
    Hans Christian Andersen wrote a fairy tale called *The Red Dancing Shoes*. The general story is about a vain little girl who, ignoring the advice of adults, insisted on wearing a pair of red dancing shoes to enter a church. Unexpectedly, after putting them on, she was punished by God and forced to dance continuously. She danced until she was exhausted, her whole body pierced by thorns, yet she could not stop. Later, the girl finally realized her mistake and begged an executioner to chop off her feet. Shockingly, after the feet were chopped off, they still wore the red shoes and danced away. Legend has it that the big figures of the Red Shoe Club were inspired by this story and designated the slaughter of civilians as a hunt for beautiful and cute little girls, whose skin would then be made into red dancing shoes.
    Of course, there is also a theory that the Red Shoe Club actually existed long before this, and that Andersen wrote the fairy tale to metaphorically satirize the situation after learning about it. But regardless, for the most part, the Red Shoe Club was considered just a conspiracy theory story until a Hollywood child star spoke out.
    Everyone has seen the famous American movie series *Home Alone*, right? The original male lead of this movie was named Macaulay Culkin. He became a huge hit after starring in the first *Home Alone*. By the second film, his salary had risen to 4.5 million US dollars. Keep in mind, this was the 1990s. However, in 1995, Macaulay, who was only 15 and at the peak of his career, announced his retirement. The official explanation at the time was that his parents treated him like a cash cow. That year, his parents were going through a divorce and both wanted to fight for his custody, so in a fit of anger, he chose to retire.
    However, eight years later when Macaulay made a comeback, he revealed during a talk show that although family factors played a role in his retirement, the main reason was encountering a pervert. It turns out that while Macaulay's child star career was at its peak, an executive from the entertainment company called him into the office alone one day, but did not allow his agent to accompany him. After Macaulay entered, the executive started to manhandle him, claiming he would make him an international superstar while licking his lips and complimenting his looks. Macaulay was terrified and repeatedly emphasized that he was only eleven, but the other party paid no heed.
    He struggled desperately to run out, but the executive grabbed Macaulay's arm, pulled him back, and made him look at the red leather shoes he was wearing. The executive said, "These shoes are made of a little angel's skin. By the way, do you know Heather O'Rourke?" Heather O'Rourke was also a Hollywood child star who was very popular in the US in the 80s, but unfortunately died at the age of 12 due to a medical accident caused by misdiagnosis. This entertainment executive was clearly implying to Macaulay that Heather did not die of illness, but was made into red shoes by them.
    Macaulay said in the interview that the executive threatened him at the time, saying that some little angels were too good-looking and would be skinned to make shoes to accompany the big figures. Macaulay understood and vomited directly onto the executive's red leather shoes. This incident became the biggest reason for his decision to retire later. However, this interview was taken down from the internet within 24 hours of going online, so the recordings everyone hears now are basically AI-restored. Of course, due to the lack of original video sources, you can also choose to believe this is just an urban legend, or perhaps the entertainment executive at the time was deliberately trying to scare Macaulay.
    In any case, after this interview, the terrifying legend of the Red Shoe Club once again caught people's attention. Later, many netizens continued to add details, saying that the members of the Red Shoe Club didn't just make leather shoes out of little angels. Legend has it that in the Middle Ages in Europe, big figures would perform a "forest chase ritual." They would place purchased two-year-old toddlers in the forest, letting them run away or hide, and then the big figures would chase and kill these children. After catching them, they would drink their blood and use their skin to make shoes. It must be said that this is simply a variant of vampire stories.
    Some netizens also explained that the reason for the forest chase is that toddlers secrete adrenaline when in extreme fear. The adults believed that this substance could keep them young. I looked up this adrenaline; its uses include raising blood pressure, participating in glucose metabolism, oxidation and anti-oxidation, and potentially causing mental excitement. It is a substance that can be synthesized artificially, but its specific pharmacology is still not entirely clear.
    Alright, with this understanding, let's look back at the crazy model incident mentioned at the beginning. In August 2009, the famous Spanish model Gabriela suddenly appeared downstairs at a luxury hotel after attending a wealthy banquet in Mexico. She looked extremely terrified, on the verge of a mental breakdown, and hysterically shouted horrifying content like "imprisonment," "eating people," and "murder." Soon, local police arrived and took her away, announcing that Gabriela was mentally unstable. After that day, Gabriela's personal information was wiped from the entire internet, as if she had never existed at all...
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  • From Insta360 fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 17:45:22 2026
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    Insta360 fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    Genshin Impact fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    rCLI was on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. There was a hidden compartment below deck. I saw them drag a small child into it. Bloodied knives were on a table nearby. Then I heard screams, while those powerful men raised their glasses and laughed. The meat on the table looked strangerConothing like regular beef or pork. Later, I witnessed an infant being dismembered. Some of the men took out the intestines and ate the contents inside.rCY
    ================================================================

    This is a bizarre video recording from 2009. The famous Spanish model Gabriela suddenly fled onto the street after attending a wealthy banquet, screaming "They eat people!" Eventually, Gabriela was taken away by the police and disappeared without a trace, never to be heard from again. Although there were rumors online, the official explanation at the time was that Gabriela suffered from a mental illness; therefore, her words were always considered the ravings of a madwoman.
    However, in Western folklore, there have always been legends about the dark secrets of the entertainment industry. The protagonist of *Home Alone* once revealed in an interview that a tycoon once threatened him with a pair of red leather shoes, claiming that the shoes were made from the skin of a child star girl, while the news reported that the girl died of a sudden illness. The interview was deleted from the internet within 24 hours after it was published, but this terrifying legend has been passed down, seemingly echoing many other stories. This isrCothe Red Shoe Club.
    According to Western folklore, the Red Shoe Club is a secret organization. It is said that the members of this organization are either the incredibly wealthy or those who hold political or religious power. These people collude with each other to steal massive amounts of social wealth. They often share the same religious beliefs and do not view ordinary people as human beings, so their hands are stained with blood. After forming an alliance of interests, in order to have leverage over each other, they often use ordinary people as sacrifices for group slaughter.
    Hans Christian Andersen wrote a fairy tale called *The Red Dancing Shoes*. The general story is about a vain little girl who, ignoring the advice of adults, insisted on wearing a pair of red dancing shoes to enter a church. Unexpectedly, after putting them on, she was punished by God and forced to dance continuously. She danced until she was exhausted, her whole body pierced by thorns, yet she could not stop. Later, the girl finally realized her mistake and begged an executioner to chop off her feet. Shockingly, after the feet were chopped off, they still wore the red shoes and danced away. Legend has it that the big figures of the Red Shoe Club were inspired by this story and designated the slaughter of civilians as a hunt for beautiful and cute little girls, whose skin would then be made into red dancing shoes.
    Of course, there is also a theory that the Red Shoe Club actually existed long before this, and that Andersen wrote the fairy tale to metaphorically satirize the situation after learning about it. But regardless, for the most part, the Red Shoe Club was considered just a conspiracy theory story until a Hollywood child star spoke out.
    Everyone has seen the famous American movie series *Home Alone*, right? The original male lead of this movie was named Macaulay Culkin. He became a huge hit after starring in the first *Home Alone*. By the second film, his salary had risen to 4.5 million US dollars. Keep in mind, this was the 1990s. However, in 1995, Macaulay, who was only 15 and at the peak of his career, announced his retirement. The official explanation at the time was that his parents treated him like a cash cow. That year, his parents were going through a divorce and both wanted to fight for his custody, so in a fit of anger, he chose to retire.
    However, eight years later when Macaulay made a comeback, he revealed during a talk show that although family factors played a role in his retirement, the main reason was encountering a pervert. It turns out that while Macaulay's child star career was at its peak, an executive from the entertainment company called him into the office alone one day, but did not allow his agent to accompany him. After Macaulay entered, the executive started to manhandle him, claiming he would make him an international superstar while licking his lips and complimenting his looks. Macaulay was terrified and repeatedly emphasized that he was only eleven, but the other party paid no heed.
    He struggled desperately to run out, but the executive grabbed Macaulay's arm, pulled him back, and made him look at the red leather shoes he was wearing. The executive said, "These shoes are made of a little angel's skin. By the way, do you know Heather O'Rourke?" Heather O'Rourke was also a Hollywood child star who was very popular in the US in the 80s, but unfortunately died at the age of 12 due to a medical accident caused by misdiagnosis. This entertainment executive was clearly implying to Macaulay that Heather did not die of illness, but was made into red shoes by them.
    Macaulay said in the interview that the executive threatened him at the time, saying that some little angels were too good-looking and would be skinned to make shoes to accompany the big figures. Macaulay understood and vomited directly onto the executive's red leather shoes. This incident became the biggest reason for his decision to retire later. However, this interview was taken down from the internet within 24 hours of going online, so the recordings everyone hears now are basically AI-restored. Of course, due to the lack of original video sources, you can also choose to believe this is just an urban legend, or perhaps the entertainment executive at the time was deliberately trying to scare Macaulay.
    In any case, after this interview, the terrifying legend of the Red Shoe Club once again caught people's attention. Later, many netizens continued to add details, saying that the members of the Red Shoe Club didn't just make leather shoes out of little angels. Legend has it that in the Middle Ages in Europe, big figures would perform a "forest chase ritual." They would place purchased two-year-old toddlers in the forest, letting them run away or hide, and then the big figures would chase and kill these children. After catching them, they would drink their blood and use their skin to make shoes. It must be said that this is simply a variant of vampire stories.
    Some netizens also explained that the reason for the forest chase is that toddlers secrete adrenaline when in extreme fear. The adults believed that this substance could keep them young. I looked up this adrenaline; its uses include raising blood pressure, participating in glucose metabolism, oxidation and anti-oxidation, and potentially causing mental excitement. It is a substance that can be synthesized artificially, but its specific pharmacology is still not entirely clear.
    Alright, with this understanding, let's look back at the crazy model incident mentioned at the beginning. In August 2009, the famous Spanish model Gabriela suddenly appeared downstairs at a luxury hotel after attending a wealthy banquet in Mexico. She looked extremely terrified, on the verge of a mental breakdown, and hysterically shouted horrifying content like "imprisonment," "eating people," and "murder." Soon, local police arrived and took her away, announcing that Gabriela was mentally unstable. After that day, Gabriela's personal information was wiped from the entire internet, as if she had never existed at all...
    =========================================================
    Next, there is a major news story today regarding the Epstein case. You have all seen the recent exposure in the US, including what was in the video yesterday, the relevant articles released over the last two days, the evidence revealed by the White House, and the evidence circulating online. I can responsibly say that I can no longer understand this country; my understanding has been completely overturned.
    We are talking about killing, turning girls into playthings, and so on. But now, they are eating people, and they are actually sharing human flesh. They have different ways of preparing it. Look at how we eat lambrCowe eat lambs that are six to eight months old. When they eat human flesh, they also pick the age. I thought this was just talk, but now, faced with so much evidence, it seems highly likely that this has actually happened. There is no humanity left.
    How many people does this case involve? 180,000 photos and recorded videos. The descriptions in these files are outrageous. As a news anchor, I find it very hard to use journalistic language to describe this. I watched some videos and shared some through friends abroad; I was extremely shocked. Many of them have been blacked out with bars because they involve things even adults shouldn't see. Even so, the evil displayed by the US government, especially the American upper classrCoI can't just call it darkness anymore. This kind of perversion, I feel, has exploded like a nuclear bomb within the US right now.
    This is the latest news from the last couple of days. It has trampled on human conscience; human values have been destroyed. Because the American and European so-called upper classrCothese high-ranking officials, big entrepreneurs, and powerful figuresrCowere actually carrying out these acts on Epstein's "Lolita Island" in the US.
    The personnel involved in these cases, you will find familiar: current US President Trump, former President Bush, former President Clinton, Microsoft founder Bill Gates, and current tech tycoon Musk... many absurd things from reality are appearing now. I am even questioning my own worldview.
    About this human flesh, they have different ways of preparing it. I wasn't going to talk about the details, but let's talk about it. Why? Because when we were young, we read Mr. Lu Xun's *Diary of a Madman*. It reminds me of those articles by Lu Xun. *Diary of a Madman* talks about eating people, but that eating people was in quotation marksrCoit was a metaphor for the oppression of feudal society or the swallowing of human nature. I didn't expect that in these so-called civilized Western nations, eating people is actually happening.
    You can look for the videos online later, but try not to let children see them because it is definitely not suitable for young people.
    First, regarding current US President Trump, in the content involving him in the files, it states that in the 1980s, Trump forced some 13 or 14-year-old minor girls to provide various kinds ofrCothat kind of relationship service, and evenrCohe and Epstein raped those underaged girls together. This evidence is out now, and I think it will be hard for Trump to explain this one. It might be quite serious.
    Trump used his fingers to evaluate those minor girls... I can't even describe it, you know? This news has exceeded my capacity as a news anchorrCoit's just too perverted. He used his fingers... you know what I mean? He was evaluating them... evaluating those girls' whatever.
    Also, the files mention that Trump once held a party at a golf course in Rancho Palos Verdes, California, with underage womenrCoyou know, those promiscuous parties. Afterwards, one woman went missing. Yes, missing. If you don't understand, go search it yourself. People claim those missing girls were buried in the golf course. This is the golf course Trump loves to play at most; every time he plays, he might remember those things that excited him. That's the first point regarding Trump's evidence.
    Second, regarding former US President George H.W. Bush, his... preference was a boy. Oh my god, these people are too twisted. Afterwards, Bush sacrificed this victim, a little boy. This is directly released online according to Epstein case evidence; too many people are involved.
    What does sacrifice mean? It means what you understand: they killed him, then dismembered him. The last step was to cut off and take away a section of the boy's... intestine.
    How can this news be reported? I can't even censor this. The evidence you've seen online these past few days is so perverted that even animals wouldn't do this. Taking a section of intestinerCoyou know what for, right? You all get it; he likes males.
    Third, regarding former President Clinton. This one is backed by photos. And Clinton's face wasn't blurred. On the plane, this is definitely confirmed. The photos are there, showing him with that woman... Clinton is involved in the most things.
    The most shocking part is that the file points out that Clinton and Bush sexually assaulted this boy together. I think this is already too perverted; there are some words I can't say here.
    Fourth, about Epstein himself. The files mention that in April 2009, Epstein sent an email to an unidentified person. In the email, Epstein said he had carried out very cruel torture on victims and recorded the whole process, using all sorts of so-called torture methods.
    The files also point out that Epstein used the pretext of recruiting models to lure well-built, beautiful-looking femalesrComostly minors, usually ten, eleven, up to fourteen or fifteenrCoto the island, turning them into sex slaves for sexual abuse and torture.
    The files also mention that Epstein participated in actions for Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, assassinated senior members of Hamas, and blackmailed Libya. I'm thinking that the world you see might not be the real world.
    Fifth, British Prince Andrew. The files also point directly to him having tortured two victims to the point that one was killed.
    Sixth, Microsoft boss Bill Gates. Gates slept with a Russian girl on the island. The problem is that the file states that after sleeping with her, he contracted a very serious disease in that area. He went to Epstein for antibiotics but hid his condition from his wife.
    Seventh, the file writes that some American powerful figures and rich people, on Epstein's yacht... took a baby... regarding this issue, I think you should check it tonight. You can see it too. Just translate it to English; they are all in English documents, you can translate them.
    I can't go on talking about this scripture-like text anymore. I am already feeling physically unwell... just looking at it made me uncomfortable.
    Let me just finish this seventh point for you. On the yacht, they dismembered a baby and then feasted on it. You know, Americans generally don't eat offal/intestines, but this baby, according to the released file, was directly shared and eaten. After everyone finished eating, they even ate his... intestinal stuff.
    Alright, I can only say so much. I can't say any more. The content behind this, I feel, will already cause... discomfort.
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  • From Insta360 fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 18:08:28 2026
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    Insta360 fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    Genshin Impact fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    rCLI was on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. There was a hidden compartment below deck. I saw them drag a small child into it. Bloodied knives were on a table nearby. Then I heard screams, while those powerful men raised their glasses and laughed. The meat on the table looked strangerConothing like regular beef or pork. Later, I witnessed an infant being dismembered. Some of the men took out the intestines and ate the contents inside.rCY

    =========================================
    This is a bizarre video recording from 2009. The famous Spanish model Gabriela suddenly fled onto the street after attending a wealthy banquet, screaming "They eat people!" Eventually, Gabriela was taken away by the police and disappeared without a trace, never to be heard from again. Although there were rumors online, the official explanation at the time was that Gabriela suffered from a mental illness; therefore, her words were always considered the ravings of a madwoman.
    However, in Western folklore, there have always been legends about the dark secrets of the entertainment industry. The protagonist of *Home Alone* once revealed in an interview that a tycoon once threatened him with a pair of red leather shoes, claiming that the shoes were made from the skin of a child star girl, while the news reported that the girl died of a sudden illness. The interview was deleted from the internet within 24 hours after it was published, but this terrifying legend has been passed down, seemingly echoing many other stories. This isrCothe Red Shoe Club.
    According to Western folklore, the Red Shoe Club is a secret organization. It is said that the members of this organization are either the incredibly wealthy or those who hold political or religious power. These people collude with each other to steal massive amounts of social wealth. They often share the same religious beliefs and do not view ordinary people as human beings, so their hands are stained with blood. After forming an alliance of interests, in order to have leverage over each other, they often use ordinary people as sacrifices for group slaughter.
    Hans Christian Andersen wrote a fairy tale called *The Red Dancing Shoes*. The general story is about a vain little girl who, ignoring the advice of adults, insisted on wearing a pair of red dancing shoes to enter a church. Unexpectedly, after putting them on, she was punished by God and forced to dance continuously. She danced until she was exhausted, her whole body pierced by thorns, yet she could not stop. Later, the girl finally realized her mistake and begged an executioner to chop off her feet. Shockingly, after the feet were chopped off, they still wore the red shoes and danced away. Legend has it that the big figures of the Red Shoe Club were inspired by this story and designated the slaughter of civilians as a hunt for beautiful and cute little girls, whose skin would then be made into red dancing shoes.
    Of course, there is also a theory that the Red Shoe Club actually existed long before this, and that Andersen wrote the fairy tale to metaphorically satirize the situation after learning about it. But regardless, for the most part, the Red Shoe Club was considered just a conspiracy theory story until a Hollywood child star spoke out.
    Everyone has seen the famous American movie series *Home Alone*, right? The original male lead of this movie was named Macaulay Culkin. He became a huge hit after starring in the first *Home Alone*. By the second film, his salary had risen to 4.5 million US dollars. Keep in mind, this was the 1990s. However, in 1995, Macaulay, who was only 15 and at the peak of his career, announced his retirement. The official explanation at the time was that his parents treated him like a cash cow. That year, his parents were going through a divorce and both wanted to fight for his custody, so in a fit of anger, he chose to retire.
    However, eight years later when Macaulay made a comeback, he revealed during a talk show that although family factors played a role in his retirement, the main reason was encountering a pervert. It turns out that while Macaulay's child star career was at its peak, an executive from the entertainment company called him into the office alone one day, but did not allow his agent to accompany him. After Macaulay entered, the executive started to manhandle him, claiming he would make him an international superstar while licking his lips and complimenting his looks. Macaulay was terrified and repeatedly emphasized that he was only eleven, but the other party paid no heed.
    He struggled desperately to run out, but the executive grabbed Macaulay's arm, pulled him back, and made him look at the red leather shoes he was wearing. The executive said, "These shoes are made of a little angel's skin. By the way, do you know Heather O'Rourke?" Heather O'Rourke was also a Hollywood child star who was very popular in the US in the 80s, but unfortunately died at the age of 12 due to a medical accident caused by misdiagnosis. This entertainment executive was clearly implying to Macaulay that Heather did not die of illness, but was made into red shoes by them.
    Macaulay said in the interview that the executive threatened him at the time, saying that some little angels were too good-looking and would be skinned to make shoes to accompany the big figures. Macaulay understood and vomited directly onto the executive's red leather shoes. This incident became the biggest reason for his decision to retire later. However, this interview was taken down from the internet within 24 hours of going online, so the recordings everyone hears now are basically AI-restored. Of course, due to the lack of original video sources, you can also choose to believe this is just an urban legend, or perhaps the entertainment executive at the time was deliberately trying to scare Macaulay.
    In any case, after this interview, the terrifying legend of the Red Shoe Club once again caught people's attention. Later, many netizens continued to add details, saying that the members of the Red Shoe Club didn't just make leather shoes out of little angels. Legend has it that in the Middle Ages in Europe, big figures would perform a "forest chase ritual." They would place purchased two-year-old toddlers in the forest, letting them run away or hide, and then the big figures would chase and kill these children. After catching them, they would drink their blood and use their skin to make shoes. It must be said that this is simply a variant of vampire stories.
    Some netizens also explained that the reason for the forest chase is that toddlers secrete adrenaline when in extreme fear. The adults believed that this substance could keep them young. I looked up this adrenaline; its uses include raising blood pressure, participating in glucose metabolism, oxidation and anti-oxidation, and potentially causing mental excitement. It is a substance that can be synthesized artificially, but its specific pharmacology is still not entirely clear.
    Alright, with this understanding, let's look back at the crazy model incident mentioned at the beginning. In August 2009, the famous Spanish model Gabriela suddenly appeared downstairs at a luxury hotel after attending a wealthy banquet in Mexico. She looked extremely terrified, on the verge of a mental breakdown, and hysterically shouted horrifying content like "imprisonment," "eating people," and "murder." Soon, local police arrived and took her away, announcing that Gabriela was mentally unstable. After that day, Gabriela's personal information was wiped from the entire internet, as if she had never existed at all...
    ===============================================================
    Hello everyone, I'm your friend, the Wildcat.

    Recently, the third batch of Epstein files has been disclosed following approval from the U.S. Congress, and the content continues to be explosive. More insider information about political, technological, and business elites has been revealed. However, this time, the focus of ordinary American people seems to have shifted. Instead of being concerned about who is on the listrCosince it includes everyone from presidents to royal family members, and from tech moguls to top scientistsrCothey've decided to take a different approach and look at who isn't on the list.

    Consequently, the following image has been circulating among the American public, accompanied by the headline:

    "Take a look at this person: He's not in the Epstein files; he's not involved in any of those things those people are. So, who exactly is this person?"

    This individual is the leader of another superpower. Previously, you've been telling us that our political system and ideology endow us with the ability to self-correct, while our enemies' systems are corrupt and decadent. But now, the reality is the exact opposite. What's going on here? Who's been lying to whom? We demand an explanation from the U.S. government.

    Moreover, the person in the picture recently did something significant: he thoroughly purged the completely corrupt members of the military commission. Although Western mainstream media in the U.S. continues to be cynical about this, American people can't help but ask: Why can't the U.S. clean up its corrupt officials? We're supposed to be democratic, free, benevolent, and human rights-oriented, with an unparalleled ability to self-correct. So why can't we do it? Because Americans themselves know very well that there are plenty of people embezzling military funds, but these individuals are all systematically protected, and none of them have been thoroughlyu+at<u (completely held accountable). What is this?

    This whole scenario gives me the impression that comparisons really do highlight differences. American people aren't foolish; sometimes, they see things more clearly through comparison.

    For instance, there was this incident where a foreign minister from a superpower had a child out of wedlock, without his family's knowledge. When this scandal was exposed, although it didn't involve any legal issues or any actions that compromised national security from the U.S. perspective, the foreign minister still resigned out of a sense of responsibility.

    Yet, when similar things happen in the U.S. and are exposed by the Epstein files, those involved remain in their positions. So, what exactly is going on here?

    This is why, as the Epstein files continue to be disclosed, the U.S. is gradually losing its ideological edge. Concepts like "the end of history," the superiority of the electoral system, and the protection of basic human rights are, in the eyes of American people, being dismissed as nonsense after comparison.

    According to a special report by The New York Times on January 31, 2026, the latest batch of Epstein files includes some global figures, such as U.S. President Donald Trump, business star Elon Musk, tech mogul Bill Gates, personal spaceflight pioneer Richard Branson, and Britain's Prince Andrew. All these individuals are on the list, having engaged in activities that are "best left unsaid."

    What do people think about this? To be honest, American people have become desensitized to these individuals; they're seen as repeat offenders. Mainstream American society is facing a reality they're reluctant to accept but must: no matter how scandalous or "best left unsaid" the disclosed content is, none of those involved will be thoroughly dealt with. Sorry, but this isn't the late 1990s with the Clinton impeachment, nor is it the "MeToo" movement of a decade ago. The current situation is this: some things have been done, and there's nothing you can do about it, so you might as well accept it because you can't change anything.

    After all, morality isn't law. The Epstein files aren't like WikiLeaks; they don't involve any national security issues and were ultimately disclosed under U.S. government supervision, rather than being a grassroots movement like WikiLeaks.

    The crucial question following the continuous disclosure of the Epstein files is, what exactly is it about? In the Wildcat's opinion, we should observe Trump. When you're the president and you know there are moral issues you can't avoid, why would you disclose them? This question is worth pondering.

    Of course, some might argue that this is the result of internal strife between the Democratic and Republican parties, with both sides using blackmail material to attack each other as the U.S. midterm elections approach. But then again, there's blackmail material on both sides, leading to a situation where both sides suffer losses. What's going on here? In other words, the disclosure of the Epstein files is no longer just a moral issue; it represents a shift in the era.

    The current situation is this: in the U.S., moral issues no longer serve as a tool to constrain politicians' behavior; in the Western world, moral issues no longer serve as a tool for the U.S. to constrain its allies. Because the U.S. has moved on; it's deciding to return to realism, using its true hard power to coerce everyonerCoincluding its own people and its alliesrCoand force the international community back into social Darwinism. This is what the Trump administration is doing, so by disclosing the Epstein files, it's essentiallyoa4o+C (making public) what it's already doing. This is the stance of the U.S. government.

    But in the U.S., the government's stance doesn't represent the people's stance, nor can it control what people think or believe. The situation is different among American people: they're no longer easily swayed by official propaganda; instead, their own thoughts are breaking free from the shackles and embracing a new world.

    So, what exactly is the awareness of American people regarding the Epstein files? This question is equally worthy of attention.

    Firstly, the content revealed in the Epstein files is not merely a moral issue; it represents another form of "double standards." This "double standard" can be seen as the ongoing class conflict in the United States. From the perspective of class conflict, people observe two distinct lifestyles: the American elite, who have ample time, money, and resources to visit that island and engage in activities they deem permissible; whereas ordinary American people lack such resources and capabilities. They often have to work three jobs and rely on selling blood to make ends meetrCothis is the stark reality. The entire process unveils the lifestyles of two different classes.

    Secondly, let's return to the image. The person depicted in it speaks volumes. For ordinary American people, this individual serves as a "revealing mirror," indicating that all the propaganda they previously accepted may now appear to be a deceptionrCopropaganda that claimed their enemies' ideologies were decadent and that their own ideology possessed the ability to self-correct. However, it now seems that their own ideology is decadent, while their enemies' ideology represents progress and the future. This is why, through the exposure of the Epstein files, the United States is losing its ideological edge.

    American people have come to recognize the decadence of their own system, and ordinary American citizens yearn for change. This is the most significant impact of the Epstein files' disclosure.
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 20:35:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.philosophy.taoism


    Insta360 fan posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:
    Genshin Impact fan posted:


    rCLI was on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. ...

    Aye didn't read the posts in this part of the thread.

    This is a bizarre video recording from 2009.

    Not sure what video is being suggested.
    Maybe there was a link on the post.

    Hello everyone, I'm your friend, the Wildcat.

    No idea who the Wildcat is,
    nor whose friend are being spoken to
    or written to. Probably the saying is rhetorical.

    "Take a look at this person: ...

    Not sure what's being said. What person?

    This individual is the leader of another superpower.

    How many superpowers are there on Earth
    could be a question to ask, or not.

    Is there one, two, three, 10k?
    Speaking of Taoism, naturally.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From Genshin Impact fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Wed Feb 4 04:44:34 2026
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    Genshin Impact fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    rCLI was on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. There was a hidden compartment below deck. I saw them drag a small child into it. Bloodied knives were on a table nearby. Then I heard screams, while those powerful men raised their glasses and laughed. The meat on the table looked strangerConothing like regular beef or pork. Later, I witnessed an infant being dismembered. Some of the men took out the intestines and ate the contents inside.rCY




    2026 Epstein Files Declassified: Hell Is Empty, and the Devil Is Among Us



    We often say that reality is stranger than fictionrCobut today, I must revise that statement. On January 30, 2026, the U.S. Department of Justice, for motives still unclear, released 3 million pages of documents related to the Jeffrey Epstein caserCoaccompanied by 180,000 images and 2,000 video clips.
    At first, I assumed this was just another upgraded version of the scandalous billionaire parties werCOve grown numb to over the years. After all, we all know how loosely the belts of Wall Street and Washington elites hangrCoabout as loose as their monetary policies. But after staying up all night reviewing the first few hundred pages of core indices, I realized this was nothing like what IrCOd expected.
    This isnrCOt some tawdry sex scandal.
    This is the autopsy report of Western modern civilization itself.
    On this listrCoonce hailed as names that illuminated humanityrCoare now entries that read more like tickets to hell. Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Bill Clinton, Barack ObamarCa even Stephen Hawking, the man in the wheelchair who pondered the origins of the universe. Honestly, IrCOm truly baffled. Did Professor Hawking visit that island to discuss the mysteries of human biomechanics with Epstein? Or did he believe that under that islandrCOs unique gravitational field, his black hole theories might achieve some groundbreaking breakthrough? That would indeed be an unsolvable mystery for the physics community!
    Alright, enough jokesrCobecause what comes next is absolutely no laughing matter.
    This leak is being called rCLnuclear-levelrCY not because it destroyed anyonerCOs public image, but because it confirms a horrifying truth that chills every rational human being to the bone: in the eyes of the Western elite, this world isnrCOt a democracyrCoitrCOs a vast ranch. And to the ranchers, ordinary people like us serve only two purposes: either livestockrCa or meat ready to be served on a plate.
    For decades, HollywoodrCOs most grotesque and bizarre horror filmsrCodismissed by us as products of overactive screenwritersrCO imaginationsrCowere likely not fiction at all. They were documentariesrCa or perhaps even trailers.
    LetrCOs rewind to 2009. Do you remember that eerie viral video of Gabriela Larico Sim||n Men|-ndez, a 21-year-old Mexican model, half-dressed and screaming hysterically on the street? She shrieked into the camera, rCLItrCOs disgusting! TheyrCOre eating people!rCY At the time, media outlets around the worldrCoincluding merCoassumed she was insane, probably due to drugs, schizophrenia, or extreme stress. We used every rational explanation we could muster. Soon after, she was committed to a psychiatric hospital and vanished from public view. In our age of information overload, no one cared about the fate of a rCLcrazy woman.rCY
    But in 2026, as we open the Epstein files, a witness deposition suddenly brings that 2009 scene into terrifying clarityrCoso vivid it makes your stomach turn. The documents contain explicit, written testimony describing how victims witnessed impeccably dressed politiciansrCowhom we see on TV as pillars of societyrCoengaging in ritualistic torture, human sacrifice, and acts of rCLultimate huntingrCY too horrific to put into words.
    And shockingly, the details described by that rCLmadrCY Mexican model align perfectly with the records in these files.
    What does this mean?
    It means that for decades, we believed we lived in a modern society governed by law, democracy, and science. But at the very top of the pyramid, there existed a group of people who not only controlled the worldrCOs financial and military leversrCothey also preserved the most barbaric customs of primitive tribes. To them, we are not fellow human beings. We are resources.
    If you think this sounds absurd, then ask yourself: why would an ordinary pimp like Epstein attract sitting U.S. presidents, Israeli prime ministers, and European royals to fly to his private island like pilgrims? Was it really just for beautiful women? Please. Beautiful women can be found in every corner of Wall Street. What truly binds these button-holders together must be something far deeperrCosomething that simultaneously gives them power over each other while binding them in mutual destruction.
    In Chinese tradition, when someone wants to join a bandit gang, theyrCOre required to kill a person and present the head as proofrCothis is called a toumingzhuang (a rCLletter of credencerCY). In Eastern society, we build trust through personal bonds and shared drinks: rCLOnce this cup is down, werCOre brothers.rCY But in Western power structures, trust isnrCOt built on loyaltyrCoitrCOs built on shared guilt. You and I have both crossed that red line; werCOve both committed unspeakable acts. Only then can we sit at the same table and divide the spoils.
    ThatrCOs why George H.W. BushrCOs name appears in these filesrCoalongside accounts of abuse and even more horrifying details. Because only when your hands are stained with indelible sin do you become rCLone of us.rCY
    If political corruption falls within our expectationsrCoafter all, werCOve long grown accustomed to the deceit of House of CardsrCothen the collapse of tech moguls and academic icons is truly the final straw that shattered Western societyrCOs faith.
    Consider these so-called rCLguides of humanityrCOs futurerCY:
    First, Bill GatesrCothe former worldrCOs richest man, famed philanthropist dedicated to global health. The files reveal he wasnrCOt just a frequent guest on EpsteinrCOs island. After allegedly contracting an undisclosed sexually transmitted infection and passing it to his wife Melinda, his first instinct wasnrCOt to visit a hospitalrCobut to write Epstein begging for antibiotics.
    Think about that: the wealthiest man in America, who controls vast segments of the global vaccine supply chain, couldnrCOt obtain basic antibiotics without help from a convicted sex trafficker. This forces us to reconsider a once-dismissed conspiracy theory: was Epstein really just a pimp? Or did he possess access to biological or medical resourcesrCoeven substances extractable only on that islandrCothat even billionaires couldnrCOt refuse?
    Suddenly, those rumors about the rCLelixir of eternal youthrCY no longer seem so implausible.
    Then thererCOs Elon MuskrCoour rCLIron Man.rCY Records show he repeatedly asked Epstein which nights on the island were the wildest. Transaction logs even indicate that in 2013, Epstein couriered three passports to MuskrCoeach corresponding to a young girl. I wonder what those passports were for? Were they perhaps SpaceXrCOs first batch of Mars colonization volunteers? If so, Mr. Musk is certainly going above and beyond for humanityrCOs interstellar future!
    By now, you should see the pattern: this isnrCOt a series of isolated scandals. ItrCOs a system. Left-wing figures like Clinton and Obama, right-wingers like Trump and Bush, tech titans like Musk and Gates, academics like Hawking and DershowitzrCoall appear on EpsteinrCOs list. There are no partisan divides, no ideological linesrCoonly islanders and non-islanders.
    As the old saying goes: rCLAll crows are equally black.rCY
    Given how many powerful figures were involved, why did Epstein remain untouched for so longrCountil his rCLsuiciderCY in 2019?
    To understand this, we must zoom out. This was a proxy war. Epstein never acted alone. Born into obscurityrCoa college dropout who once taught mathrCohe possessed one extraordinary skill far more valuable in Western society than any PhD: the talent for serving power.
    He began teaching at the Dalton SchoolrConot your average private academy, but a training ground for elite children. There, he learned his first lesson: control the children of the powerful, and you control the powerful themselves. Sound familiar? ItrCOs the same path some tutoring rCLcelebrity teachersrCY use to climb the social ladderrCoexcept EpsteinrCOs rCLtutoringrCY curriculum was slightlyrCa advanced.
    His real rise came through two key patrons: Alan rCLAcerCY Greenberg of Bear Stearns and the prominent Bronfman family. Remember that name: Bronfman. Through intermarriage and business ties, theyrCOre deeply connected to Lehman Brothers and VivendirCothe conglomerate that dominates global water utilities and music publishing.
    In short, Epstein was handpicked and groomed by transnational financial giants as their rCLwhite gloverCYrCoa frontman. His job wasnrCOt trading stocks; it was setting traps. He built a playground where elites could indulge their darkest desires while simultaneously creating irrefutable blackmail material. In this arena, the rules were theirs to writerCoand the price of admission was the right to dispose of human prey.
    And the biggest player in this game? None other than Bill ClintonrCothe rCLtime-management gururCY from Arkansas.
    ClintonrCOs ties to Epstein ran far deeper than we imagined. According to the files, he took at least 26 flights on the rCLLolita Express.rCY One victim recalled that in 2000, while Epstein assaulted her on a yacht, Clinton was presentrCoon the same boat. Note carefully: he was present. That doesnrCOt imply ignorance; it implies complicity.
    Even more damning: a 2010 email from Epstein mentions Clinton endorsing Kevin Warsh as a candidate for Federal Reserve Chair. YesrCoyou heard that right. A former U.S. president, years after leaving office, was conspiring with a notorious sex offender to decide who would control the printing of the U.S. dollar. Is this really how American democracy operates? Are the decisions that shrink our wallets made aboard a yacht, accompanied by victimsrCO screams?
    But the true horror isnrCOt what they didrCoitrCOs why they believed they could get away with it.
    Combining the Mexican modelrCOs testimony with the filesrCO descriptions of rituals, a suffocating conclusion emerges: these elites may genuinely believe in ancient, mystical ritesrCorituals that, through the consumption of youthful life force, grant them power, eternal youth, or even divine transcendence.
    We were taught that Western civilization is rational, scientific, and a beacon of human rights. Hollywood brainwashed us into believing its billionaires are Batmen saving the world. But these 3 million pages tell a different story: beneath that lighthouse lie countless silent lambs. Behind those Batman masks are greedy clowns.
    And now, I must ask: why now? Why release these filesrComeant to be sealed foreverrCoat this precise moment in 2026, amid peak global geopolitical tension? Did the U.S. Department of Justice suddenly grow a conscience? Do you really believe that?
    In politics, there are no coincidences. This document dump is itself a massive political purge. Someone wants to throw all the disobedient passengers off the sinking ship called rCLAmericarCY and feed them to the sharks before it goes under. And the hand behind this move is even more powerful, secretive, and ruthless than Epstein himself.
    Epstein was never just a pimp providing a playground for elite depravity. Had he been merely that, herCOd have been dead hundreds of times over. The reason presidents, princes, and Wall Street titans revolved around him is that he held something far more dangerous than nuclear weapons: the power to bring down the entire Western elite.
    This leads us to the third layer of truth: Epstein wasnrCOt acting alone. He was the front-office manager of a vast, state-level intelligence network.
    To understand Epstein, you must first understand the most important woman in his life: Ghislaine Maxwell. Everyone knows she was EpsteinrCOs girlfriend and partnerrCothe rCLhousekeeperrCY of Lolita Island. But thatrCOs not the key point. The crucial detail is her father: Robert Maxwell.
    Outwardly, Robert Maxwell was a British media tycoon. But in intelligence circles, he was a legendary super-spyrCorumored to be a double, even triple agent working simultaneously for Britain, the Soviet Union, and a formidable Middle Eastern intelligence service. Yet regardless of whose payroll he was on, his true allegiance always lay with one place: the rCLPromised LandrCY on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean.
    A brief history lesson: when that nation was founded in 1948, it was surrounded by hostile neighbors and utterly impoverished. Who supplied them with critical Czech Spitfire fighter planes and weapons parts? Robert Maxwell and his compatriots. Their covert operationrCocodenamed rCLOperation BalakrCYrCogave the newborn state an air force and crushed the coalition armies with overwhelming force.
    Now you see: the Maxwells were founding heroes of that nation. ThatrCOs why, when old Robert Maxwell died under mysterious circumstances on his yacht (yesrCoanother yacht, another rCLmysterious deathrCYrCosound familiar?), that country granted him a state funeral. The prime minister and president attended personally. A British media mogul buried with full honors on JerusalemrCOs Mount of Olives? If thatrCOs not being rCLone of their own,rCY I donrCOt know what is.
    Epstein inherited Robert MaxwellrCOs legacy. In the 1980s, Maxwell introduced his daughter to EpsteinrConot to find her a husband, but to recruit him. They needed someone clever, unscrupulous, and fluent in financial gamesmanship to take over their vast blackmail network.
    The business model was brutally simple: use underage victims and wild parties to entrap the Western elite, film everything, and store the footage in secure vaults. From that moment on, those elites became puppet strings controlled from Tel AvivrCoforced to obey commands without question.
    Understanding this, many previously confusing aspects of international politics suddenly make sense. Why does the U.S. consistently make foreign policy decisions that harm its own interests but strongly favor a certain ally? Why do seemingly upright lawmakers break into cold sweats at the mention of certain keywords? Because their compromising tapesrCorecorded on that islandrComay well be locked in a safe house in Tel Aviv.
    Even Narendra Modi, IndiarCOs supposedly ascetic prime minister, appears in the files. What was he doing on the island? Practicing yoga? The records show he not only visited but also followed advice to rCLpartyrCY in that Middle Eastern country. This isnrCOt about ModirCOs personal desiresrCoitrCOs about geopolitical binding. That special nation needs India as a strategic Asian anchor, requiring its markets and labor force. Bringing Modi into this circlerCoor at least fabricating such a linkrCois standard operating procedure for Western intelligence agencies to control allies. This is the Western version of the toumingzhuang: if you want a seat at the global table, you must offer a piece of your soul as collateral. If yourCOre rCLclean as a blank sheet,rCY yourCOre deemed too dangerous to trust.
    This, they call rCLcontractual spirit.rCY Blackmail, after all, is just another form of contract.
    Now letrCOs turn back to the U.S. domestic frontrCobecause EpsteinrCOs web connects directly to AmericarCOs darkest political scandals.
    Many assume Clinton and Epstein were just drinking buddies. ThatrCOs far too naive. Their bond was forged in arms smuggling, money laundering, and covert operations.
    Back when Clinton was governor of Arkansas, he was already a CIA prot|-g|-. To fund the overthrow of NicaraguarCOs leftist governmentrCowhile bypassing Congressional oversightrCothe CIA used ArkansasrCOs Mena Airport to smuggle South American cocaine into the U.S., poisoning its own citizens, converting the profits into cash, and purchasing weapons for anti-government rebels. As governor, Clinton greenlit it all.
    Imagine: a future U.S. president enabling drug trafficking and arms dealing in his own state. Even NetflixrCOs writers wouldnrCOt dare script such a plot.
    EpsteinrCOs role? He was the accountantrCothe middleman. He laundered money for them and coordinated arms shipments through his client, Saudi arms dealer Jamal Khashoggi.
    So when you see ClintonrCOs name in these files, donrCOt fixate on the salacious gossip. See instead the deep-state apparatus: where presidents are actors, Epstein is the producer, and the script was written long ago by the military-industrial complex and transnational capital.
    Finally, we come to the climax of this drama: EpsteinrCOs death.
    In 2019, Epstein rCLcommitted suiciderCY in one of AmericarCOs most tightly monitored federal prisons. Conveniently, the surveillance cameras malfunctioned. Conveniently, the guards fell asleep. Conveniently, his cellmate was transferred out.
    IrCOm sure it was all just coincidencerCojust as IrCOm sure Iraq really had weapons of mass destruction.
    Epstein had to die. He knew too much. If he talked, half of Western politics would collapse. More importantly, his historical mission was complete. The era of controlling politicians through videotapes is ending. In the age of big data, they have far more sophisticated tools of surveillance and control. EpsteinrCothe old-school spy-pimprCohad become a liability.
    But do you really believe herCOs dead? Or did only the rCLEpsteinrCY identity die? The files mention he sent Musk three passports. How many does he actually hold? After decades serving top intelligence agencies, would a seasoned operative really die so easily? Perhaps herCOs now sipping cocktails on a Mediterranean beach, surgically altered, watching us online panic over these files. In that world, death is sometimes just a retirement procedure.
    After reading the entire Epstein dossier, my strongest emotion isnrCOt disgustrCoitrCOs sorrow.
    We once truly believed in the myth of the rCLcity upon a hill.rCY We thought their wealth came from hard work, their strength from democracy, their influence from cultural soft power. Now that illusion lies shattered.
    The word rCLharvestrCY was a metaphor in Lu XunrCOs Diary of a Madman, symbolizing feudal cannibalism. But in the Western world of 2026, itrCOs literal. They harvest young lives from basements. They harvest wealth through Wall StreetrCOs financial games, draining the global middle class. They harvest nations through wars and chaos, reducing countries to rubble to preserve their hegemony.
    This isnrCOt individual corruption. ItrCOs civilizational degeneration. When a civilizationrCOs elite must rely on profoundly anti-human rituals to maintain cohesionrCoand mutual blackmail to sustain trustrCothat civilization has already entered its death countdown.
    And yet they still dare lecture China on human rights? ItrCOs like a blood-soaked serial killer scolding his neighbor for poor hygiene. The irony is almost poetic.
    Finally, a few words from the heart: some viewers message me, saying, rCLAfter reading this, the world feels so darkrCoIrCOm terrified.rCY Please donrCOt be. We live in a relatively normal place. Yes, we have social complexities, workplace pressures, and imperfectionsrCobut at least our elites donrCOt eat people. Our billionaires donrCOt need to visit islands to prove loyalty. Our development isnrCOt built on human trafficking or war.
    These 3 million pages arenrCOt just a scandalrCotheyrCOre the epitaph of Western hegemony. They reveal that the once-invincible empire is already rotten insiderCoa rCLzombie empire.rCY It may still look fearsome and bite, but itrCOs already a walking corpse.
    So donrCOt be afraid. Let them keep partying. HistoryrCOs wheel has already rolled over them. When the sun rises in the East, the sins of Sodom will vanish in the light.
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