From Newsgroup: alt.philosophy.taoism


someone quoted and posted:

<< In the Zhuangzi (Chapter 1), a family in Song
makes a living for generations by bleaching silk,
using a secret salve that prevents their
hands from cracking.

A traveler buys this recipe for 100 gold pieces,
selling it to the King of Wu, who uses it to win
a winter naval battle against Yue because
his troops' hands do not crack. >>

Aye is reminded of a powder used in guns, invented
in a land that didn't use the powder for weapons.

Paper is an other story as wells of copying
and making a paste or pastiche of sorts continues.

Global economies are as old as many a road. The ways
in which people traded ideas and material goods or
turned what was good in to a batch of not as can
be twisted for a spell binding caricature.

Once upon a time, people migrated.

Archaeology suggests a land was
where people evolved until they
filled the surface of a planet.

Some saw their selves as different
beings from those they othered.

Tribal thinking occurs.
Cultural norms emerge.

People of the south, Yue, or north, Song,
of the west or when a capital was moved
toward the east after rulers were gone.

Was Asia named after the Xia?
Perhaps a bot knows or knows not.

<< The Xia emerged from a tribal confederation,
often associated with the Erlitou archaeological site.
These groups are believed to be the ancestors
of the Hua-Xia ethnic group ... >>

To identify with a small or large group can
be what occurs naturally when a brain grows
and its neurons begin to make connections.

To identify with Yue or Song, Wu or Qin.
To think of a self as Tibetan or Turk.
As an American of the North or South.
As a European or Middle Eastern.
As an African or Australian.
Indigenous people vary.

Resistance and struggles continue.

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From Newsgroup: alt.philosophy.taoism


aye posted:

skimmer posted:

Genshin Impact fan posted:

<< Consider MAGA supporters >>

- t'hats funny! thanks! Cheers!

Consider extremists, authoritarians, rulers
who rule and what they say goes far and wide
as it is able to go as a dao.

Rulers are able to rule. Like dao that are dao.

Whether any is a Son of Heaven or a god of a sort
could be archaic now-a-daze. And then again knot.

Our ruler is the best, they may shout.
Our system rules, they might contend.

Confucius, in so-called Daoist texts, presuming
Daojia is actually a topic, may have been born
in a land different from where Lao Tan was.

The culture of rules, regulations, rites and rituals
which were instituted over time were perhaps realized
as being problematic for the heart or the mind which
when it was not natural, was artificial. Not genuine.

Whether Chu culture was different or the same
as the culture in which Confucianism thrived,
or if Song was all the same song sung could be
a question pertaining to Daojia ore knots.

A form of Gemini wrote:

<< ... the culture of the State of Lu differed significantly
from the State of Chu. While Lu was a bastion of traditional
Western Zhou customs and "proto-Confucian" formality, Chu
developed a unique, hybrid culture characterized by romanticism,
spirituality, and advanced material arts. >>

<< Lu (Central Plain Culture): Lu was founded at the beginning
of the Western Zhou dynasty by the son of the Duke of Zhou.
It served to stabilize Zhou control and remained a faithful
repository of Western Zhou traditions, customs, and rituals
as late as the time of Confucius. >>

<< Chu (Southern Outlier): Chu was not originally part
of the regional states distributed at the start of the Western Zhou.
Its ruling dynasty had a different origin than most Zhou regional dynasties and was often viewed as "less cultured" or even "barbaric" by the central states.

Chu eventually broke from Zhou custom by being among the first
to give its rulers the title of wang (king), rejecting the overall
suzerainty of the Zhou. >>

The dynasty that is a dynasty
reminds me of a dao that is a dao.

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From Newsgroup: alt.philosophy.taoism


eye posted:

anyone posted:

There's a saying, the customer is right.

There's a logic which could apply to a set
of sayings which involve what is called a straw man.

Many mind-sets emerge. Some people wear funny hats.

One is reminded of a man who went to sell a product
in a land, iirc, hats. A problem was when he found
the people who lived in the land didn't wear any.

Some people carried umbrellas and took to the streets
to protest some ruler or rules while others decided
they would take over the capitol which was a building.

Demonstrations vary.

Some youngsters prefer not to work
and lay down in the streets while an other
makes a stand in front of a row of tanks.

To have a mind set in cement, to reify
thoughts which were not one's own is possible.

Life, as a word, stems from a train of thoughts.
Whether life exists or if there are only forms,
was discussed in a book once upon a time.
Beings can be said to exist. If Being
or Nonbeing, Yu and Wu, are may be
to discuss ontology or cosmology.

Politics could perhaps always be
an other story in various ways.

Forms form.
T'hat mite seams oblivious.

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From Newsgroup: alt.philosophy.taoism


aye@butterfly.net posted:

daoist wrote:

Newsgrouper.org went away last night and
has yet to reappear however, another portal
is available and so, to continue reading and
responding is now possible.

The formatting of this venue,
if it's called a venue, app, client,
server or by some other ming thing
may take a byte of getting used too.

Newsgrouper is back up now!

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