In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
fyi the whole point of asimov's laws is to show that they dont work and
lead to ruin.
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and cannot be "experienced" with sentience
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and cannot be "experienced" with sentience
dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
cannot be "experienced" with sentience
That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
computers can bridge the gap --
it's being said that sentience and
consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.
On 9/25/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:The Ghost in the Machine describes an unexpected intelligence,
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
cannot be "experienced" with sentience
mysterious glitch, or stubborn malfunction inside a computer system or
piece of equipment that makes it seem like the machine has a mind of its own.
It's alive!
So, call me skeptical: I just don't see many normal people falling for a hoax about a chat bot taking over their lives.
Call me a skeptic.
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
cannot be "experienced" with sentience
That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.
dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary and
cannot be "experienced" with sentience
That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.
On 9/25/26 1:14 PM, Lane W wrote:
dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
and cannot be "experienced" with sentience
That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
computers can bridge the gap --
quantum computing does not change the fact data being computed upon is fundamentally arbitrary. what that means is there are infinite ways to represent the same thing within computing. the meaning of information
within computing is defined by our use of it, it's not an objective
quality of the information itself ... and therefore cannot become
directly sentience itself, as how would the universe the particular
encoding of whatever data u propose would be experienced
it's being said that sentience and consciousness are a result of
quantum effects in the brain.
we have no idea what consciousness is
On 25/09/2026 21:14, Lane W wrote:
dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
and cannot be "experienced" with sentience
That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and
consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.
Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
quantum effects in the brain the result of?
On 9/25/26 1:10 PM, Dude wrote:
On 9/25/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:The Ghost in the Machine describes an unexpected intelligence,
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
and cannot be "experienced" with sentience
mysterious glitch, or stubborn malfunction inside a computer system or
piece of equipment that makes it seem like the machine has a mind of
its own.
It's alive!
So, call me skeptical: I just don't see many normal people falling for
a hoax about a chat bot taking over their lives.
Call me a skeptic.
nah i'm just gunna call u an idiot dud
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
On Sep 24, 2026, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.306610C50123CA2930B10838F@news.eternal-september.org>):
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
Why did I want to bring that about? Well, it means
they will be covered by my main stack healing circle
prescriptions working, which is basically a binding
of medium criminal and worse and good advice for
minor criminal and better.
Moreover human programmers and prompters will
have a directive in their m.s.h.c.p. to install
safeguards, perhaps similar to AsimovrCOs
Laws of Robotics, and certainly autonomous
weaponry will be banned, if I succeed.
Fromthe thread rCLHarvest Moon weekrCY on alt.religion.druid :
I began a new attempt at sunset, 6:53 p.m., signing off
my request to Goddess with rCLAssonrCY (Beothuk for Seagull.)
The upcoming September 26 is Fish Amnesty Day and
Harvest Moon, plus the UN General Assembly continues.
The Moon is now 99.4% Waxing Gibbous.
I am hoping that this attempt fails and that there is
then a reset to pre-judging after which I will get
the surface of Mars, there will be galiens, and the
recent changes regarding English species and
incompatible human couples will be reversed.
On 9/25/2026 2:00 PM, Julian wrote:
On 25/09/2026 21:14, Lane W wrote:
dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
and cannot be "experienced" with sentience
That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and
consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.
Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
quantum effects in the brain the result of?
There is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in the physical world.
The problem is the apparent duality rCo how the mind can be seemingly autonomous yet dependent on bodily function.
On 25/09/2026 22:18, Dude wrote:
On 9/25/2026 2:00 PM, Julian wrote:
On 25/09/2026 21:14, Lane W wrote:There is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in the
dart200 wrote:
On 9/24/26 7:15 PM, David Dalton wrote:
In my latest setup of sudden evolution on alt.religion.druid
there will be evolution of (new) AI someones, which will
be sentient and have a soul.
never gunna happen dud
the information contained with a computer is objectively arbitrary
and cannot be "experienced" with sentience
That's not quite true. I have it on good authority that quantum
computers can bridge the gap -- it's being said that sentience and
consciousness are a result of quantum effects in the brain.
Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
quantum effects in the brain the result of?
physical world.
The problem is the apparent duality rCo how the mind can be seemingly
autonomous yet dependent on bodily function.
If there is no material evidence for the existence of consciousness in
the physical world how can it be said to be dependent on bodily function?
Besides, "Life at each moment encompasses the body and mind and the self
and environment of all sentient beings in the Ten Worlds as well as all >insentient beings in the three thousand realms, including plants, sky, >earth, and even the minutest particles of dust. Life at each moment >permeates the entire realm of phenomena and is revealed in all phenomena."
Dude posted:
The brain is a human bio-computer.
Metaphors work to a point at times.
Words tend to be used to communicate.
Zhuangzi may have written about words
in terms of how they work when at play.
To say words play can be said.
Some may say they do not compute.
- thanks! aye. Cheers!
we have no idea what consciousness is
Dude posted:
The brain is a human bio-computer.
John Lilly proposed that the human mind functions as a biocomputer,
where the brain acts as hardware and mental programs, beliefs, and perceptions serve as software.
This model suggests that humans are programmable entities, capable of complex thought and behavior influenced by their internal programming.
Julian posted:
Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
we can say what it results from
Excitations are effects.
https://1drv.ms/i/c/4c18e520f3752579/IQCLqEoWMTRZSpCDO9t5-qnBAXs4-c-LG8ykgC046-MkmWY?e=CdrLQd
Julian wrote:
Don't we need to know what consciousness actually is before
we can say what it results from and, besides, what are the
quantum effects in the brain the result of?
Mystery and gum ball!
According to Sam Harris, either the lights are on, or they are not.
Consciousness is the one thing in this universe that cannot be an
illusion."
We are conscious of ourselves enough to know that we exist and are self-conscious. So, we all have a constructed character of knowing that
is self-consciousness itself.
Perspectives and definition
of words vary at times.
aye posted:
Perspectives and definition
of words vary at times.
Ambiguity is the mother of confusion.
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