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    From marika@marika5000@gmail.com to alt.philosophy.taoism on Tue Sep 22 16:59:40 2026
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    I watched an episode of rCLMadam SecretaryrCY.

    The secretaryrCOs husband is a former fighter pilot, CIA operative and religious studies professor. The secretary, his wife, is the secretary of state to a democratic president. In spite of being allegedly liberal, they sound more like rCLheadlines ripped from the Trump administrationrCY. The show first aired 2015, and thus scripted before Trump announced his
    candidacy.

    This episode titled rCLgift HorserCY aired in January 2017. Trump had been elected, but not inaugurated. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6351982

    The president on the show, Dalton, is about to be inaugurated, and his administration receives gifts as is the custom

    The title of the episode is a reference to the horse gifted by the
    Mongolian government.

    Given the secretaryrCOs husbandrCOs job, it is a given we would have an episode about Tao/Dao at some point.

    In this episode, the secretaryrCOs husband, Henry, is enlisted by the administration to convince Warren Lee, a big donor and big privacy advocate
    to do something the administration wants.

    Henry tells one of the bureaucrats that Lee is a rCLdiligent practitioner of DaoismrCaAs diligent as one can be given that it is about effortless actionrCY

    (Here is me typing with one finger, practicing effortless action).

    He admits it is a rCLtheological paradoxrCY.

    When we meet Lee, he is surrounded by all sorts of seemingly Asian
    artifacts. (Set sort of looks like interior of a restaurant in any
    Chinatown. Very kitschy).

    Lee says he is a student of all religions.

    Henry says he feels the sentiment of the Tao Te Ching is reflected in the parables of the gospels but the dao language is more poetic.

    Lee has devised some sort of technology for cell phones. Henry comes
    pleading for government back door access, for the greater good. Greater
    good > privacy.

    Lee refuses HenryrCOs request and suggests he practice some of the tenets
    that dao has taught them and rCLlet go of your longingrCY.
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Wed Sep 23 11:27:36 2026
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    marika posted:

    I watched an episode of rCLMadam SecretaryrCY.

    Ads for it appeared yet I haven't watched any.

    The secretaryrCOs husband is a former fighter pilot, CIA operative and religious studies professor.

    Sounds like an interesting character.

    ...
    Given the secretaryrCOs husbandrCOs job, it is a given we would have an episode
    about Tao/Dao at some point. ...

    Religious studies was an area which seemed
    as if it might hold answers to my quest, long ago.
    The mountains of material loomed to a point.

    During the daze, there appeared to be more
    like one peak which many mystics experienced.

    Henry tells one of the bureaucrats that Lee is a rCLdiligent practitioner of DaoismrCaAs diligent as one can be given that it is about effortless actionrCY

    (Here is me typing with one finger, practicing effortless action).

    He admits it is a rCLtheological paradoxrCY. ...

    Ostensibly perhaps. And yet, practice
    until perfection is attained or obtained
    may be involved as one evolves and is then
    eventually able to be spontaneous and without
    any thought given to action.

    Keys may be found on a piano, or a board full
    when typing. The fingers know and sometimes they
    type what wasn't intended. At first, they are all
    thumbs so to speak metaphorically.

    Not every piano is as grand as a baby.
    Some are upright and stand against a wall.
    In the past there were players which played
    without any people sitting on a bench.

    Pondering theology, Daojia could be a school
    of a sort that was invented to remove much.
    The historians at the time decided what.
    Later, the Daojiao canon grew immense.

    Without any god nor gods, Dao
    could be followed as a path.

    Henry might have said it was a philosophical
    paradox. How to be without effort when trying
    to be without effort, naturally.

    Pay attention to when not paying attention.

    "... let go ..."

    Be still and know.
    Allow the mud to settle.
    Breathing arrives in mind.

    Forgetting occurs.
    On their own, things emerge.
    Nouns, given parts of speech.

    Do without doing.

    DDJ 80 suggests having tech
    and not using it. To imagine
    having a phone that's tapped
    and leaving it off. Unplugged.

    Outside, leaves fall in autumn.
    Floating down from above, they
    don't miss not being a part of
    the tree they once were.

    Some land in a stream of thought.
    A few reach an ocean and wave.
    They leave me here, as a reverb.

    - Thanks! aye. Cheers!
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