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I never carry a watch or clock when I go swimming. Nor do I take my phone.
The heat would destroy it. I started reading

I try to use the sun to gauge how long I have been out. Very difficult on
a cloudy day. I try to do about three hours of activity. I feel that if
the sun hits a certain point above the pool step ladder, that I have been
in the water three hours. I get it wrong very often, and I was surprised today, as I went for four hours today in 98 degree heat. I am way too tired
to read.

So, I am watching a movie, rCLUnstoppablerCY. It is a true story of a college bound wrestler who has only one leg. He is recruited to some colleges, but none that have champion teams.

Don Cheadle portrays a coach from a college with a successful wrestling program. He has granted an interview, only because of his long personal friendship with the young athleterCOs coach.

Prior to informing him of the rejection, Cheadle tells the young athlete
the story of the Chinese Farmer who responds to every twist of faterCogood or badrCowith the calm reply, "Good luck? Bad luck? Who knows?"

Cheadle did not tell the young man the origin of the parable, but of
course, I recognized it, having read it myself quite a long time ago. I am sure everyone frequenting this group has heard it many times.

Although this is a biopic, I donrCOt know whether or not that actual conversation took place.

I am only about twenty minutes into the movie.
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marika posted:

... I feel that if
the sun hits a certain point above the pool step ladder, that I have been
in the water three hours. ...

That's a long time to stay in water.

As a young body, to be in sunshine for hours
was a normal activity with frequent dips in water
if a pool was around. Now having had many skin cancers,
the advice is to stay out of the sun's rays.

... "Good luck? Bad luck? Who knows?"

... the origin of the parable, but of
course, I recognized it, having read it myself quite a long time ago. I am sure everyone frequenting this group has heard it many times. ...

I've heard and read the horse tale
but didn't recall the saying as quoted.

The version that arrives in mind is, maybe.
Each time a neighbor would express an emotion,
the old farmer would say, maybe.

It sounds Taoistic.

Knowledge is interesting to me.
How do people know, not only good and bad.

Fate is mentioned the in Chuang-tzu.
Exactly where and why, I can't say at present.

- thanks!
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aye posted:

marika posted:

... "Good luck? Bad luck? Who knows?"

... the origin of the parable, but of
course, I recognized it, having read it myself quite a long time ago. I am sure everyone frequenting this group has heard it many times. ...

It sounds Taoistic.

Supposedly it's from the Huainanzi.

Knowledge is interesting to me.
How do people know, not only good and bad.

There once was a tree in a garden.
It's fruit was a problem, a poison.
Even touching the bark of the tree
spelled trouble. It could be said
it was the wrong tree to bark up.

Fate is mentioned the in Chuang-tzu.
Exactly where and why, I can't say at present.

When Zz's wife died, fate might have been used
to suggest how before she was born, what was.

Remembering a one-legged story in the Zhuangzi
reminds me of a multi-legged, millipede or centipede.
It was asked how it was able to manage them all.

The response was, only the first one is moved
intentionally and the remainder follow along.

In the process, thinking about it,
its legs got all tangled up.

To wrestle with how things are, why,
and what constitutes Taoist philosophy
continues to be a gift of the present
unfolding when some people post.

- thanks again!
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eye posted:

marika posted:

... Who knows? ...

Remembering a one-legged story in the Zhuangzi
reminds me of a multi-legged, millipede or centipede.
It was asked how it was able to manage them all.

https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu1.html#17

CT 17 is a favorite chapter.

A quirk appears to be in a memory of mines.
The correlation with the legs getting tangled
isn't in the text, deriving from elsewhere.

- interesting! Thanks again!
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eye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

aye posted:

marika posted:

... "Good luck? Bad luck? Who knows?"

... the origin of the parable, but of
course, I recognized it, having read it myself quite a long time ago. I am >>> sure everyone frequenting this group has heard it many times. ...

It sounds Taoistic.

Supposedly it's from the Huainanzi.

Knowledge is interesting to me.
How do people know, not only good and bad.

There once was a tree in a garden.
It's fruit was a problem, a poison.
Even touching the bark of the tree
spelled trouble. It could be said
it was the wrong tree to bark up.

Fate is mentioned the in Chuang-tzu.
Exactly where and why, I can't say at present.

When Zz's wife died, fate might have been used
to suggest how before she was born, what was.

Remembering a one-legged story in the Zhuangzi
reminds me of a multi-legged, millipede or centipede.

I love those critters.

They eat other bugs, so I never disturb them.

My sister is bothered by them.

She once had a centipede infestation.

She said it was like having hundreds of Groucho Marx mustaches in the room,
all over the wall

It was asked how it was able to manage them all.

The response was, only the first one is moved
intentionally and the remainder follow along.

In the process, thinking about it,
its legs got all tangled up.

To wrestle with how things are, why,
and what constitutes Taoist philosophy
continues to be a gift of the present
unfolding when some people post.

- thanks again!

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