• Re: ambiguous/atheist friendly attempt

    From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu May 21 11:28:52 2026
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    David posted:
    David Dalton wrote:

    National Rescue Dog Day [hound of the smith?])

    Reminds me of a sign at a restaurant
    where they served hot dogs which said:

    Every dog has its day
    but we have dogs every day!

    ... Goddess (the ruler of the region all/everything)
    ... Gaia (the someone who is The Earth)
    ... along with other collaborators

    Taoism, Tao Chiao, the so-called religion
    has its pantheon which does perhaps as much
    if not more with plenty of details involved.

    Note that I have said that some special abilities, including
    green thumb, healer, animal husbandry, weatherworking,
    peacemaker, and projective empath, work by willing,

    At times, willing events to occur has worked for me
    yet to say it's an ability would be saying too much.

    Lots of golfers hit a hole in one shot
    yet, as able as they are, they cannot
    do the same thing every time.

    So many variables are at play.

    not by prayer. So what if I just try willing my material,
    beginning with an initial twelve items as usual?

    With a golfer, it's more than just luck.
    It's more than practice. It could be called
    being involved or Being or Existence, involved.

    If
    it works I will believe that Goddess and other collaborators
    made it happen, but atheists and those in religions other
    than my individual religion (and note that I am not
    recruiting) may believe otherwise.

    I'm reminded of Michael Shermer's wedding when
    a transistor radio began to play. He wrote about it
    in Scientific American and the click-bait was how
    the phenomenon shook his skepticism to the core.

    To say an event is phenomenal
    can be said. Extra-ordinary. Para-normal.
    Beyond mere coincidence. Synchronistic.
    Full of meaning. Yet to be skeptical
    is perhaps always possible. Even
    when there is no doubt at the time.

    For the time beings, well,
    they are as a well-frog in the Zhuangzi.
    The sea-turtle was well beyond the well-frog.
    Yet the turtle could not enter Froggy's well either.

    And if it works I hope to eventually explain it to atheists
    in at least an arm-waving fashion (a possible though
    probably not proven explanation).

    Eternal beings, immortal beings, time beings.
    For a time, an immortal may take shape and form
    what is within time naturally. Eventually returning
    to the now, the present, as naturally as a well-frog.

    As a start, note that
    as described on my web page, during my sun stare
    I got a peek into higher dimension(s), and then
    just after the sun stare there was a wraparound effect
    with near-invisible spokes in the sky folding in on
    me and I think augmenting my higher dimensional
    body.

    I've been experience ocular auras recently.
    Brain activity, so an atheist may say. A physicist
    might correlate events, phenomena, and have a theory.

    Differentiating meaning from pattern,
    people are able to read squiggles on a screen.
    Sounds in the brain aren't sounds, a neurologist
    might insist. There's no air in there, in a cranium.

    So I obtained higher dimensional butterfly
    wings, and by flapping them in the last thirty years
    perhaps I will initiate a nonlinear chaos/catastrophe
    theory global new age unfolding.

    To extrapolate the flap of a wing of a flying insect
    and suggest that was a cause or the cause of a huge
    amount of air circulating in an ocean is a notion.

    And my thousands
    of repeated attempts in the last thirty years could
    be looked at as a form of programming, with a
    final run hopefully tonight.

    Hope Springs.
    There is a spring of water bouncing.
    From the side of a mountain within the rock.
    Eternally flowing and without knowing, going.

    Of course of it doesn|o-C-Ot work then no explanation is needed.

    Maps are, generally speaking, not the territory mapped.
    At times, as with many if not most if not all dao, ways,
    they actually may be the Territory, and then again, knot.

    ...
    The upcoming May 21 is World Day for Cultural Diversity for
    Dialogue and Development, Global Accessibility Awareness
    Day, and End of the World Day/Rapture Party Day.

    Aye is happy to here t'hat.

    11:52 p.m. : no hits, no P+, P-, 2nd+ => ABORT

    I will revert to a prayer model,

    To pray is an activity employed by me.
    As an employee, prayer may or might not agree.
    Not my will, as an employer, aye can say.

    And yet, whether the world called Earth
    or the Universe or any deity cares or exists
    continues to be a quest with ions. Questions remain.

    though if it works others
    may still believe different interpretations than mine, and
    I would still plan to try and explain it to atheists in an
    least an arm-waving fashion (possible but not proven
    explanation).

    After praying, when a prayer does work,
    a so-called individual who prays may give credit
    to the deity or what ever-power they prayed to.

    Ming ke ming fei chang ming
    can be a saying found in the Tao Te Ching.

    May 21, 2026 (Rapture Party Day, ha)

    I began a new attempt at 12 a.m. (Cinderella hour
    or witching hour, though Sarah McLachlan in her
    song Only Human says that witching hour is later).

    The moon is still shaped like a waxing salmon, and
    will be for a while.

    Life a fish out of a form of water.

    The moon called the Moon rises, sets
    and whether it appears to sew dew from
    a given perspective is able to vary.

    For a man on that moon, what appears
    differs naturally and from above the plane
    of the ecliptic, an other story mite emerges.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From eye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Thu May 21 12:05:38 2026
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    aye posted:

    Lots of golfers hit a hole in one shot
    yet, as able as they are, they cannot
    do the same thing every time.

    So many variables are at play.

    With a golfer, it's more than just luck.
    It's more than practice. It could be called
    being involved or Being or Existence, involved.

    In the Zone, at times, given a mystical experience,
    at times, some body or some so-called one is One
    and at times at the same time is aware of how
    innumerable normally seen as separate things
    are all in the same line and one can't miss.

    An odd sense.
    Two say the least.

    - know doubt. Cheers!
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