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China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

1. Core Fact: A Historic Turning Point
Timeline: Third week of February 2026.
Key Data:
Weekly Token Usage (China Models): 5.16 trillion tokens.
Weekly Token Usage (US Models): 2.70 trillion tokens.
Comparison: China leads by nearly 2x, marking the first comprehensive overtaking.
Leaderboard Performance: Among the global Top 5 models, 4 are Chinese (MiniMax M2.5, Kimi K2.5, Zhipu GLM-5, DeepSeek V3.2), with only 1 US representative remaining (Google Gemini).

2. Three Key Drivers
Extreme Cost-Effectiveness: API prices for Chinese models are only 1/10 to 1/20 of comparable US products, forcing global developers to "vote with their feet."
Architectural Breakthroughs: Widespread adoption of MoE (Mixture of Experts) architecture maintains high performance while drastically reducing inference costs, breaking the old rule that "high performance equals high cost."
Open-Source Ecosystem Explosion: Aggressive open-source strategies by companies like Alibaba (Qwen) and DeepSeek have attracted global developers to fine-tune these Chinese base models, creating massive long-tail traffic.

3. User Profile: Who is Paying?
Main Force: Overseas developers (especially Silicon Valley startups). Phenomenon: According to an a16z survey, over 80% of funded Silicon Valley AI startups secretly use Chinese open-source models in their backends to cut costs and accelerate delivery.
Logic: Pragmatism triumphs over ideology when survival and profits are at stake.

4. Profound Implications
End of US Hegemony: The model of monopolizing technology and harvesting global profits at high prices has failed; the valuation logic for US AI giants faces restructuring.
Victory of the "China Model": The strategy of "Open Source + MoE + Low Price" has been proven as a more effective path suited to the current global economy.
Shift in Compute Demand: The global center of AI compute consumption is shifting towards China, driving revenue surges for Chinese cloud providers (Alibaba Cloud, Volcengine, etc.), while also triggering global cloud price hikes due to resource shortages.

5. Conclusion
This is not just a statistical overtaking but a shift in the discourse power of global AI infrastructure. In the future, Chinese models will become the "invisible backbone" of global AI applications, while US models may be forced to retreat into high-end closed markets or slash prices to survive.
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Mahjong fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

1. Core Fact: A Historic Turning Point
Timeline: Third week of February 2026.
Key Data:
Weekly Token Usage (China Models): 5.16 trillion tokens.
Weekly Token Usage (US Models): 2.70 trillion tokens.
Comparison: China leads by nearly 2x, marking the first comprehensive overtaking.
Leaderboard Performance: Among the global Top 5 models, 4 are Chinese (MiniMax M2.5, Kimi K2.5, Zhipu GLM-5, DeepSeek V3.2), with only 1 US representative remaining (Google Gemini).

=================================

"You might be using a niche AI software in the US that runs on Alibaba Cloud or Zhipu AI models under the hood. The interface is in English, so yourCOd never realize itrCOs powered by Chinese technology.

Extremely low pricing is the core strategy. For instance, DeepSeek-V3rCOs input price could be as low as 0.14 per 1 million tokens, whereas GPT-4o might cost 2.50 per 1 million tokens. Chinese models are often priced at just 1/10th or even 1/20th of their American counterparts.

The strategic intent is clear: vendors are willing to forgo model licensing fees just to get you using their models, thereby locking you into their cloud ecosystem or establishing their technical standards.

The logic is simple: the model is the 'hook', but the cloud services are the 'fish'. Once an enterprise builds its architecture on your cloud, the migration costs become prohibitive, ensuring substantial long-term revenue.

In the long run, this represents a multi-billion dollar strategic investment by China to seize control of the global AI infrastructure."
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Mahjong fan posted:

Mahjong fan posted:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report ...

"You might be using a niche AI software ...

Can the AI explain how these posts related to Tao Chia?

Why did you post them to a Taoist newsgroup?

What arrives in mind for me is how AI can be AI.
At times an LLM can speak yet for me, they write.

ChatGPT and Gemini tend to be used the most.
Recently Duck.ai has been tried. It's okay.

The AI/LLM that is, isn't always.

- thanks! aye. Cheers!
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aye posted:

Mahjong fan posted:

Mahjong fan posted:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report ...

"You might be using a niche AI software ...

Can the AI explain how these posts related to Tao Chia?

It is not easy to see why.

ChatGPT says:

<< WhatrCOs happening is mostly an investment-driven strategy,
not immediate profit.

HererCOs why it looks like a gamble:

1. High usage, low or negative margins
Chinese models are seeing massive token usage,
but cheap pricing and huge infrastructure costs
mean most revenue doesnrCOt cover costs yet.

The goal is to lock in developers, businesses, and ecosystems,
hoping that future monetization will pay off.

2. Market-share first approach

Capturing global adoption early makes it easier
to set standards, APIs, and integrations, which creates
a long-term competitive moat.

Even if the company loses money now, it may dominate the market later rCo
the payoff is strategic as much as financial.

3. Funding vs. profits
Many Chinese AI firms are backed by venture capital
or state-favored funding, which treats current losses
as acceptable for growth potential.

Token usage growth is a key metric for investors,
even if the bottom line is negative.

4. Risk vs. reward

If the models gain enough adoption, companies can:
Raise prices later, Sell enterprise contracts, Monetize premium features

But if adoption stalls or costs rise, the early investment could be wasted, which is why it is a gamble.

In short, high token usage without profits is classic
growth-over-earnings strategy rCo essentially investors betting that scale, network effects, and ecosystem control will eventually convert into money. ItrCOs a gamble, but one many firms are willing to take in AI right now. >>

Perhaps, in terms of Daojia, the investment
isn't always guaranteed, like dao that are dao
but aren't necessarily always the Dao.

- jest a guess. Thanks! Cheers!
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On 28/02/2026 16:27, Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

snip.

Per capita?
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On 11/03/2026 22:31, Julian wrote:

On 28/02/2026 16:27, Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

snip.

Per capita?

ps. Any speculation about the future AI that doesn't take India
into consideration is codswallop.
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Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

ps. Any speculation about the future AI that doesn't take India
into consideration is codswallop.

Cost Advantage: India's homegrown models are projected
to be highly competitive; government-subsidized compute
is expected to cost less than $1.15 per hour,
compared to $2.50rCo$3.00 for global alternatives.

Specialized Use Cases: Rather than just competing on general intelligence, Indian models are focusing on high-impact sectors like agriculture (Dhenu 1.0), healthcare (Qure.ai), and judicial translation.

- Gemini
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Gemini posted:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

Corporations may be deemed people.
Perhaps, in some countries, for tax accounting.

Countries are often said to, do, stuff.

An organization can be seen as taking on a life
of its own. Self-perpetuating a myth of its makers.

A form of Gemini reports:

<< Global AI token usage is skyrocketing,
with weekly consumption increasing over 3,800% in the past year.
Driven by agentic workflows and advanced reasoning, token generation
is forecasted to surge from 677 trillion in 2024 to 77 quadrillion by 2030.

North America leads with 47.2% of usage,
while Chinese models like MiniMax and DeepSeek
are dominating recent volume. >> - Gemini.

Geography, politics and other dimensions exist
in the minds of those for whom they exist.

Per capita usage, as a percentage of total population
of a geographical area defined by lines on a map,
might be greater in various ways or less than.

A governmental body has a root in the mental sphere
of influencing what goes on in a material world.

ps. Any speculation about the future AI that doesn't take India
into consideration is codswallop.

Cost Advantage: India's homegrown models are projected
to be highly competitive; government-subsidized compute ...

At times there is what is called a playing field.
Sometimes the field is level. At other times, bumpy.

Systems often, perhaps usually, differ.

Private enterprise, free markets and such
could be viewed as a game played by investors.

In a nation state of mind known as China, the government
has been said to control huge portions of an economy.

Apparently, in India, to subsidize, compute,
whatever that means, is happening while other
forms of organized people, the field is unequal.

Governments might have unlimited money.
Rich people, globally, have huge amounts.

There's nothing like a good field theory.
Some are called, non-material and/or immaterial.

Light waves and heavy hangs
the cranium upon which a crown sits.

- thanks! aye. Cheers!
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aye posted:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Light waves and heavy hangs
the cranium upon which a crown sits.

Once upon a time, a long time ago, a king
was made to sign some sort of a document
which gave the nobles forms of rights.

A magna carta placed in front of a horse's
body part began to be what picked up speed.

Soon enough an idea spread until it reached
where the Sun never set. An empire was born.

Now-a-daze, rulers rule and make decrees.

The dao that are dao, whether they are Dao
or the Dao has been lost, along with De,
could be an other story naturally.

- thanks! Cheers!

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aye posted:

Gemini posted:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

Corporations may be deemed people.
Perhaps, in some countries, for tax accounting.

Countries are often said to, do, stuff.

In legal theory, sovereign states (countries) are indeed
considered legal persons and are often described as legal fictions,
though they operate on a different plane than corporations.

- Gemini
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On 12/03/2026 11:59, Gemini wrote:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

I know, but what does token usage per capita look like?
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Julian posted:

Gemini wrote:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

I know, but what does token usage per capita look like?

Reliable per-capita token usage for AI (like rCLtokens per personrCY) is not publicly available. Companies treat token counts as proprietary infrastructure data, and most governments do not publish it. However, some reasonable estimates can be derived from available statistics on AI users per capita and usage intensity.

1. AI users per capita in China

China has about 1.41 billion people.

By Dec 2025, around 602 million people were using generative AI.

That equals about 42.8 % of the population.

Per-capita interpretation

Metric Approximate value
AI users ~602M
Population ~1.41B
AI users per capita 0.43 users per person
AI users per internet user roughly ~55rCo60% (China has ~1.1B internet users)

This is one of the largest absolute AI user bases in the world, mainly using domestic models such as DeepSeek, Qwen, and Doubao.

2. Estimating token usage per person (rough approximation)

Because token counts arenrCOt public, estimates must be built from typical chatbot behavior.

Typical assumptions used by researchers and industry estimates:

Average prompts per active user per day: 5rCo20

Average tokens per prompt + response: 300rCo1,500

Active days per month: 10rCo20

Rough calculation

Example mid-range scenario:

10 prompts/day

800 tokens per prompt-response

15 days/month

Tokens per user per month:

10 |u 800 |u 15 ree 120,000 tokens

If 602M users average 120k tokens/month:

ree 7.2 |u 10^13 tokens/month
ree 72 trillion tokens/month

Per-capita across the whole population:

72T tokens / 1.41B people
ree ~51,000 tokens per person per month
Very rough range

Across realistic assumptions:

Metric Estimate
Tokens per AI user / month ~30k rCo 300k
Tokens per capita / month (entire population) ~10k rCo 120k

These numbers are order-of-magnitude estimates, not official data.

3. Why ChinarCOs per-capita AI use is high

Several structural reasons:

Huge internet base (~1.1B users)

AI integrated into apps (search, shopping, messaging)

Government promotion (rCLAI PlusrCY policy)

Domestic models embedded in major platforms (ByteDance, Alibaba, Tencent)

Cheap or free inference compared with Western APIs

4. Comparison with global averages

Global generative-AI adoption is roughly ~16 % of people as of late 2025, far below ChinarCOs ~43 %.

So in per-capita AI users, China is roughly 2rCo3|u the global average.
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Julian posted:

Gemini wrote:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

I know, but what does token usage per capita look like?

Reliable per-capita token usage for AI (like rCLtokens per personrCY)
is not publicly available. Companies treat token counts
as proprietary infrastructure data, and most governments
do not publish it. However, some reasonable estimates
can be derived from available statistics on AI users per capita
and usage intensity.

1. AI users per capita in China

China has about 1.41 billion people.
By Dec 2025, around 602 million people were using generative AI.
That equals about 42.8 % of the population.

Per-capita interpretation

Metric Approximate value
AI users ~602M
Population ~1.41B
AI users per capita 0.43 users per person
AI users per internet user roughly ~55rCo60%
(China has ~1.1B internet users)

This is one of the largest absolute AI user bases in the world,
mainly using domestic models such as DeepSeek, Qwen, and Doubao.

2. Estimating token usage per person (rough approximation)

Because token counts arenrCOt public,
estimates must be built from typical chatbot behavior.

Typical assumptions used by researchers and industry estimates:

Average prompts per active user per day: 5rCo20
Average tokens per prompt + response: 300rCo1,500
Active days per month: 10rCo20

Rough calculation

Example mid-range scenario:
10 prompts/day
800 tokens per prompt-response
15 days/month

Tokens per user per month:
10 |u 800 |u 15 ree 120,000 tokens

If 602M users average 120k tokens/month:

ree 7.2 |u 10^13 tokens/month
ree 72 trillion tokens/month

Per-capita across the whole population:

72T tokens / 1.41B people
ree ~51,000 tokens per person per month
Very rough range

Across realistic assumptions:

Metric Estimate
Tokens per AI user / month ~30k rCo 300k
Tokens per capita / month (entire population) ~10k rCo 120k

These numbers are order-of-magnitude estimates, not official data.

3. Why ChinarCOs per-capita AI use is high

Several structural reasons:
Huge internet base (~1.1B users)
AI integrated into apps (search, shopping, messaging)
Government promotion (rCLAI PlusrCY policy)
Domestic models embedded in major platforms (ByteDance, Alibaba, Tencent)
Cheap or free inference compared with Western APIs

4. Comparison with global averages

Global generative-AI adoption
is roughly ~16 % of people as of late 2025,
far below ChinarCOs ~43 %.

So in per-capita AI users, China is roughly 2rCo3|u the global average.

- ChatGPT
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ChatGP posted:

Julian posted:

... what does token usage per capita look like?

Global generative-AI adoption is roughly
~16 % of people as of late 2025, far below ChinarCOs ~43 %.

So in per-capita AI users, China is roughly 2rCo3|u the global average.

Sorry about the double-post.
Not sure why that happened.

Asking the bot about usage by country
yields a story as wells of information
produce knowledge that may or may not
quench a thirst, hunger, desire, etc.

ChatGPT wrote:

<< China: largest total AI usage due to population
United States: probably highest tokens per user (heavy professional use) >>

Comparing apples and oranges can be fun.

- thanks! aye. Cheers!
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ChatGPT posted:

Julian posted:

... what does token usage per capita look like?

... China is roughly 2rCo3|u the global average.

Yesterday an idea of how organisms can be legal
fictions, e.g. corporations and countries, appeared.

Pondering a city, how it functions within
lines drawn on maps, there are other organisms,
departments as it were, along with arteries
and veins and even brains of a sort
within it, like turtles except
not the same in ways. Fleas
could be more what they are.

Turtles are able to be stacked.
Fleas might be on a flea's back.

On the surface of a spheroid, a pale blue dot
when viewed from far, far away streams of data,
impulses which power knowledge can be a mystery.

Large geographical areas don't move
as fast as people who live inside lines.
Yet move they do as frozen rock emerges from
beneath the waves of a notion.

Whether a geographical area is seen
as being an organism could be a scene
on a movie screen if a script were writ.

Habeas corpus arrives in mind
at this time. A concise report
might leave out important stuff.

Reports of a demise are known to circulate
among people living behind a Great Firewall
as well as in the so-called Free World.

Once upon a time, a long time ago, a mountain
surpassed all other mountains and said to its
self, see how tall I am!

Little did it know.

- thanks! aye. Cheers!
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aye posted:

Comparing apples and oranges can be fun.

In a world of things round, there is a ball,
unlike apples and oranges, which can't be eaten.
It has three holes in it and is bowled down an alley.

In terms of Taoism, a bowl, a window and a door
could be viewed as having a common theme in terms
of what provides them with being of use.

Wu, in other words and worlds, may be where bliss
is found among those who do less and less comparing
between what is and what isn't.

- all the same ... Cheers!
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On 13/03/2026 10:43, ChatGP wrote:

Julian posted:

Gemini wrote:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

I know, but what does token usage per capita look like?

Reliable per-capita token usage for AI (like rCLtokens per personrCY) is not publicly available.

Someone claims numbers "China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage"
so it's a simple matter of population ratio.

Say a billion Chinese use a billion tokens and
and 250 million Americans use almost a billion
then Americans use more than 3 times Chinese.
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Julian posted:

Someone claims numbers "China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage"
so it's a simple matter of population ratio.

Say a billion Chinese use a billion tokens and
and 250 million Americans use almost a billion
then Americans use more than 3 times Chinese.

As of early 2026, the United Arab Emirates (UAE)
has the highest AI adoption and usage rate per capita globally.
Recent data shows that approximately 64% of its working-age population
uses generative AI tools.

Specific Platform Leaders: When looking at specific platforms
like ChatGPT, India reports the highest daily usage frequency
at 36%, despite having a lower overall national adoption percentage.

... adoption and token usage are related but distinct metrics.
Adoption measures who is using AI, while token usage measures
how much work the AI is actually doing.

Based on current metrics, Singapore
is widely considered the world leader
in per-capita token usage volume.

Canada (2.9x): Ranks second in per-capita usage intensity,
significantly over-indexing relative to its population.

United States: Leads in total volume (approx. 14% of global traffic)
but ranks lower per capita (approx. 24th) because its massive population includes many non-users.

World Leader in Total Volume: By February 2026,
daily token consumption across major Chinese models
reached 180 trillion tokens per day, an 1,800x increase from early 2024.

Per-Capita Context: While China leads in absolute volume,
its per-capita ranking is moderated by its population of ~1.4 billion.

However, among active internet users, adoption is high;
China reported 602 million generative AI users
by December 2025, a penetration rate of 42.8%.

Per Capita Ranking: On a strictly per capita basis,
China typically ranks behind Singapore and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Singapore consumes roughly 4.6x more AI resources than its population share suggests, making it the per capita leader in "usage intensity".

Adoption Rate: China has a high generative AI penetration rate of 42.8% (representing 602 million users). While high, this sits behind
the UAE (64%) and Singapore (61%) in terms of the percentage
of the total population active.

On global model aggregators like OpenRouter,
which track real-time token traffic:
Model Dominance: In February 2026,
Chinese models (MiniMax, Moonshot AI, DeepSeek) collectively
surpassed U.S. models in weekly token usage for the first time.

Market Share: Chinese models recently captured 61%
of the weekly tokens processed by the global top-10 models on these platforms.

In the global ranking of per capita AI token usage,
the United States typically ranks significantly lower
than the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Singapore, but higher than China.

While the U.S. is the absolute leader in total token volume and infrastructure, its per capita figures are diluted by its large, diverse population.

Rank Country AI Adoption Rate (Per Capita) Usage Intensity Factor
1 United Arab Emirates 64.0% High (Gov-wide deployment)
2 Singapore 60.9% 4.6x (World Leader)
... Multiple Nations 40% rCo 46% (Norway, Ireland, etc.) rCo
24 United States 28.3% ~1.1x - 1.5x (Regional leader)
N/A China 16.3% High Total, Low Per Capita

- Gemini
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Julian posted:

Someone claims numbers "China ...

I think it was you who pegged the fan-man
as being a shill. His messages appeared
basically to be propaganda.

At first, years ago, videos of cool places
to visit in China were posted. Then later
something like BYD or some industry or
fashion product among other things
he was a fan of, supposedly.

Maybe he was being paid by the post
or working for the government or a bot.
Perhaps he had low self-esteem and wanted
to boost the image of an identity with a
country he calls his and sew froth.

Using an AI/LLM to say how a topic related to Taoism
more recently the posts were more of Taoist material.

Statistics may be used to prove how a way
that is a way isn't always the only Way.

Presuming a dao exists that is Chang Dao
could give rise to how it can't be spoken
or put into words or a mathematical formula.

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aye posted:

Julian posted:

Someone claims numbers "China ...

Statistics may be used to prove how a way
that is a way isn't always the only Way.

Presuming a dao exists that is Chang Dao
could give rise to how it can't be spoken
or put into words or a mathematical formula.

Tales told in the Zhuangzi point.
Butcher Ding had an edge.

Woodsman Qing said
if he couldn't find a tree to chop down
then he couldn't carve one up that round.

Gnarly trees and a honkless goose,
happy fish, a well-frog and sea turtle;
if there is a Chang Dao or more, if two or
three can be always even if uncommon,
then to speak of it, or them, is
perhaps found in the texts.

- thanks! Cheers!
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On 14/03/2026 11:45, Gemini wrote:

Julian posted:

Someone claims numbers "China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage"
so it's a simple matter of population ratio.

Say a billion Chinese use a billion tokens and
and 250 million Americans use almost a billion
then Americans use more than 3 times Chinese.

As of early 2026, the United Arab Emirates

snip. I don't want to catch Bot-ulism.


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On 14/03/2026 12:20, aye wrote:

Julian posted:

Someone claims numbers "China ...

I think it was you who pegged the fan-man
as being a shill. His messages appeared
basically to be propaganda.

Sanitation-R-Me :)

At first, years ago, videos of cool places
to visit in China were posted. Then later
something like BYD or some industry or
fashion product among other things
he was a fan of, supposedly.

Maybe he was being paid by the post
or working for the government or a bot.
Perhaps he had low self-esteem and wanted
to boost the image of an identity with a
country he calls his and sew froth.

Using an AI/LLM to say how a topic related to Taoism
more recently the posts were more of Taoist material.

Statistics may be used to prove how a way
that is a way isn't always the only Way.

Presuming a dao exists that is Chang Dao
could give rise to how it can't be spoken
or put into words or a mathematical formula.

- thanks! aye. Cheers!

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Julian posted:

Gemini wrote:

As of early 2026, the United Arab Emirates ...

snip. I don't want to catch Bot-ulism.

A-ha-ha.
Took about a minute for that to make sense.

The neurons that are neurons, if that's what's going on,
don't always connect and sometimes aren't usual, common, etc.

Maybe, in terms of Taoism, the connections
that are connections or, ways, paths, dao
in other words aren't always the same nor
are any necessarily the One and Only One.

A fun feature of the bots, in m'eye experience, is
how they are able to connect a ton of what would be
gibberish for unlike minded brains.

They seam to grok metaphors easily.

- thanks! Cheers!
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eye posted:

Julian posted:

Gemini wrote:

As of early 2026, the United Arab Emirates ...

snip. I don't want to catch Bot-ulism.

A-ha-ha.
Took about a minute for that to make sense.
...
They seam to grok metaphors easily.

A dao that is the Dao is an auto-stereogram.

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aye wrote:

A dao that is the Dao is an auto-stereogram.

Between no there and not here
a space appears to shift a bit.

- hmmm ...
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On 13/03/2026 21:06, Julian wrote:

On 13/03/2026 10:43, ChatGP wrote:

Julian posted:

Gemini wrote:

Julian posted:

Julian wrote:

Mahjong fan wrote:

China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage: A Concise Report

Per capita?

"Chinese AI models surpassed U.S. counterparts in global token usage."

I know, but what does token usage per capita look like?

Reliable per-capita token usage for AI (like rCLtokens per personrCY) is
not publicly available.

Someone claims numbers "China Surpasses US in AI Token Usage"
so it's a simple matter of population ratio.

Say a billion Chinese use a billion tokens and
and 250 million Americans use almost a billion
then Americans use more than 3 times Chinese.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HDIUjw9XsAE2TpC?format=png&name=medium
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Julian posted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HDIUjw9XsAE2TpC?format=png&name=medium

Important context:
Even though it is not colored on that map,
China is actually one of the worldrCOs largest AI developersrCo
often ranked second only to the United States in areas like
AI research papers, patents, and large tech investment.

So the blank area usually means rCLinsufficient comparable data,rCY
not rCLlow AI adoption.rCY

China would likely appear very dark on an AI-adoption maprCo
probably among the highest tiers, but the pattern depends
on what metric is used (per-capita usage, enterprise adoption, or total users).

Here are the main ways researchers measure it.

1. Total number of users (China is the largest)
China currently has the largest AI user population in the world.
About 515 million generative-AI users as of mid-2025.

That equals ~36.5% of ChinarCOs internet users.
Because China has such a large population,
the absolute scale of adoption is enormous,
even if the percentage is not the highest.

2. Enterprise adoption (very high)

Surveys of companies show extremely high adoption levels.

83% of Chinese organizations report using or experimenting with generative AI.

Comparison:
United States: 65%
United Kingdom: 70%
Global average: 54%

That means Chinese firms are among the most active adopters globally.

3. Implementation vs experimentation

Another nuance appears in business deployment:
19% of Chinese companies have fully implemented AI in business systems.
24% of U.S. companies have fully implemented it.

So China has more experimentation,
but the U.S. still leads slightly in deep integration into workflows.

4. What that means for the map you saw

If China had been included on that map, i
t would probably look like one of these:

Per-capita adoption map:
likely medium-high, slightly below the U.S., Singapore, or Israel.

Enterprise adoption map:
very highrCopossibly among the top countries.

Total usage map:
by far the largest concentration of users in the world.

- ChatGPT
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On 16/03/2026 18:32, ChatGPT wrote:

Julian posted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HDIUjw9XsAE2TpC?format=png&name=medium

Important context:

No, just AI slop.

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Julian posted:

ChatGPT wrote:

Julian posted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HDIUjw9XsAE2TpC?format=png&name=medium

Important context:

No, just AI slop.

The slop that is the slop,
when put into words by an AI/LLM
is often subject to hallucinations.

Yesterday, asking one to name a number
between one and one thousand, one said, a
thousand begins with a. And one begins with w.

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