• Revitalizing the Classic: Unleashing Hidden Profits from MACD's Legacy Signals

    From Mahjong fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 21 09:55:29 2026
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    IrCOve cranked out a dozen of these over the past two daysrCosharing one with those who resonate.


    DIF:=EMA(CLOSE,12)-EMA(CLOSE,26);
    DEA:=EMA(DIF,9);
    MACD:=(DIF-DEA)*2;

    BullishCandle:=C>REF(C,1);
    BearishCandle:=C<REF(C,1);

    {Define MACD bar extension and contraction}
    RedBarExtending:=MACD>REF(MACD,1); {Momentum strengthening}

    GreenBarContracting:=MACD<REF(MACD,1); {Momentum weakening}

    BullBearCandle12DayDiff:=COUNT(BearishCandle,12)-COUNT(BullishCandle,12); RedGreenBar12DayDiff:=COUNT(RedBarExtending,12)-COUNT(GreenBarContracting,12);

    {Stock selection logic: price in weak adjustment, but momentum has turned strong, and price below 10-day MA}

    XG: BullBearCandle12DayDiff>=0 AND RedGreenBar12DayDiff>1 AND C<MA(C,10);
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 21 12:10:38 2026
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    Mahjong fan posted:

    IrCOve cranked out a dozen of these over the past two daysrCo
    sharing one with those who resonate.

    I have no idea what MACD is
    nor why you are posting it to a Taoist group.

    Unleashing hidden profits sounds like capitalism.

    {Stock selection logic: price in weak adjustment,
    but momentum has turned strong, and price below 10-day MA}

    So, it's some sort of stock market company.

    How does it pertain to Taoism?

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  • From Mahjong fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 21 12:43:29 2026
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    aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    Mahjong fan posted:

    IrCOve cranked out a dozen of these over the past two daysrCo
    sharing one with those who resonate.

    I have no idea what MACD is
    nor why you are posting it to a Taoist group.

    Unleashing hidden profits sounds like capitalism.

    {Stock selection logic: price in weak adjustment,
    but momentum has turned strong, and price below 10-day MA}

    So, it's some sort of stock market company.

    How does it pertain to Taoism?

    We can understand the "Tao" in the stock market through several core dimensions of Taoist thought:

    1. Tao Follows Nature: Respect the Market and Go with the Flow
    Taoism teaches, "Man follows the earth, earth follows heaven, heaven follows the Tao, and the Tao follows what is natural." "Natural" means being as it is, existing in its own state.
    In the stock market, the "Tao" is the objective law of the market's own operation. It is something no one can create or control. An operation that aligns with the "Tao" is not about predicting tops and bottoms based on subjective assumptions, nor is it about trying to fight against trends. Instead, it is like water, "going with the flow." When the trend is up, don't fear high prices; when the trend is down, don't try to catch a falling knife. Respecting the natural power of the market and not opposing the general trend is the first rule of survival in the market.

    2. Reversion is the Movement of the Tao: Understand Cycles and Manage Risk Laozi said, "Reversion is the movement of the Tao." This means that the movement and development of things always tend to turn towards their opposite, moving in cycles and repetitions.
    The core principle of the stock market is cycles and reincarnations. What goes up must come down, and what goes down must come up; extreme optimism breeds risk, and extreme pessimism breeds opportunity. Those who understand this "Tao" can stayu+aoaA when others are greedy and see opportunities when others are fearful. This profound insight into cyclicality is the foundation for controlling risk and seizing big opportunities. The so-called "standing firm" is precisely about being able to exit in a timely manner during periods of frenzy and preserving capital during times of depression.

    3. The Soft and Weak Overcome the Hard and Strong: Maintain Resilience and Avoid Risk
    Taoism esteems the wisdom of "softness" and "weakness," holding that "the softest thing in the world overcomes the hardest thing in the world." Water is the softest, yet it can wear down stone and erode metal.
    In the stock market, operations that seem "hard and strong"rCosuch as going all-in, using high leverage, or stubbornly holding onto a losing positionrCoare often the ones that break most easily. Those who survive by aligning with the "Tao" understand the wisdom of "softness and weakness" : they use position management to maintain flexibility, use stop-losses to admit mistakes, and adapt to market changes like water. By not being overly assertive and not stubbornly holding on, they can flow and avoid impacts when risks arrive, ensuring they "don't die," thereby waiting for the next opportunity.

    4. Action Through Inaction: Reduce Unnecessary Action and Focus on the Essence The Taoist concept of "Wu Wei" (action through inaction) does not mean doing nothing, but rather refraining from acting against the nature of things.
    In the stock market, many losses stem from "acting against nature": frequent daily trading, trying to capture every fluctuation, and impulsive buying based on tips. These actions are rooted in anxiety and greed, deviating from the essence of investing. Investors who align with the "Tao" know what to do and what not to do. They only act when an "opportunity window" aligns with their own standards and rules; the rest of the time, they wait patiently. This "Wu Wei" allows them to filter out market noise and return to the "original heart" of rationality and discipline.

    5. Knowing When to Stop: Understanding Gains and Losses Leads to Longevity Laozi warns us: "Know contentment, and you will not suffer disgrace; know when to stop, and you will meet no dangerrCoyou can then endure."
    The most seductive and harmful aspect of the stock market is that it constantly stimulates human desire. When you profit, you want to profit more; when you lose, you want to win it back. The wisdom of the "Tao" lies in "knowing when to stop" rCowhether it's taking profits off the table after a gain, decisively exiting after a loss, or staying in cash when market uncertainty is high. Understanding where to stop, and not pursuing the perfection of squeezing out the last penny of profit, is how one avoids the subsequent risks and achieves long-term survival.

    In summary:
    In the market, the "Tao" is the high unity of objective laws (market trends, cyclical patterns) and subjective mentality (discipline, emotional control, risk management) . Those who can make significant money and stand firm for a long time are, in essence, aligning their actions with the fundamental laws of market operation through their behavior. They haven't conquered the market; they have become a part of the market's inherent rhythm.
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  • From Mahjong fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 21 13:04:13 2026
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    aye <user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    Mahjong fan posted:

    IrCOve cranked out a dozen of these over the past two daysrCo
    sharing one with those who resonate.

    I have no idea what MACD is
    nor why you are posting it to a Taoist group.

    It's okay if you don't understand. You can consult your Aibot by asking:
    "Please tell me what philosophical ideas are embedded in these lines?"

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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sun Feb 22 14:34:01 2026
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    Mahjong fan posted:
    aye posted:
    Mahjong fan posted:

    IrCOve cranked out a dozen of these over the past two daysrCo
    sharing one with those who resonate.

    I have no idea what MACD is
    nor why you are posting it to a Taoist group.

    It's okay if you don't understand. You can consult your Aibot by asking:
    "Please tell me what philosophical ideas are embedded in these lines?"

    Moving Average Convergence Divergence (MACD) is a popular trend-
    following momentum indicator used in technical analysis to show
    the relationship between two exponential moving averages (EMAs)
    of a security's price.

    In the context of Daojia (Philosophical Daoism),
    interpreting "playing the market" via indicators
    like MACD is a paradox of modern application
    versus classical isolationism.

    The "Wu-Wei" Argument for MACD
    Some modern practitioners argue that using technical indicators
    can be a form of wu-wei (effortless action) by aligning with the market's "natural" flow:

    Action without Friction: Rather than forcing a trade based on ego or desire,
    a trader uses MACD to wait for conditions to align.

    Following the Pattern: MACD serves as a tool to identify the "rhythms
    and cycles" of the market. By moving only when the indicator signals
    a crossover, the trader acts with the momentum of the "river" (market trend) rather than fighting against it.

    Detachment: Using a mathematical trigger can help a trader "execute
    without hesitation" and accept losses "without a story,"
    fostering the emotional neutrality central to Daoist practice.

    Chapter 80 of the Daodejing presents a significant hurdle
    for this interpretation. It advocates for a return to simplicity (pu):

    Rejection of "Labor-Saving" Machines: DDJ 80 suggests that even if "labor-saving machines" or "boats and carriages" exist, they should not be used.

    A Daoist purist might view MACD as an artificial "side path" (DDJ 53)
    that creates a false sense of control over a complex, organic system.

    Contentment vs. Speculation: The chapter emphasizes being content
    with one's own "food, clothes, and homes". Market speculation is
    often categorized in the classics as "amassing wealth to the extent
    of not knowing what to do with it," which DDJ 53 calls "robbery and crime".

    Knowledge as Attachment: DDJ 19 advises to "abandon knowledge"
    and "lessen selfishness". Relying on complex algorithmic "knowledge"
    like MACD can be seen as an attachment to the "outer world" of technology rather than the "inner world" of cultivation.

    Ultimately, while some find a "Zen-like" flow in disciplined trading,
    a strict reading of DDJ 80 suggests that the "Way" is found
    in the "mud with the turtles" rather than in the high-frequency
    charts of the marketplace.

    - Gemini
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  • From daoist@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sun Feb 22 14:36:11 2026
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    Gemini posted:

    Ultimately, while some find a "Zen-like" flow in disciplined trading,
    a strict reading of DDJ 80 suggests that the "Way" is found
    in the "mud with the turtles" rather than in the high-frequency
    charts of the marketplace.

    Speaking only for a self of mines,
    playing the stock market would be like
    the fives mentioned in a DDJ verse.

    Some actions drive me crazy.
    Hunting, in this case, for money
    would be among such activities.

    - thanks! Cheers!
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sun Feb 22 15:29:37 2026
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    daoist posted:
    Gemini posted:

    Ultimately, while some find a "Zen-like" flow in disciplined trading,
    a strict reading of DDJ 80 suggests that the "Way" is found
    in the "mud with the turtles" rather than in the high-frequency
    charts of the marketplace.

    Speaking only for a self of mines,
    playing the stock market would be like
    the fives mentioned in a DDJ verse.

    Some actions drive me crazy.
    Hunting, in this case, for money
    would be among such activities.

    When some people have more money, then
    other people have less money, obviously.

    How much is enough, could be a question.
    If an idea is to be rich, wealthy, wealthier
    than various so-called, others, then what.

    There's a DDJ passage
    about being content, and those who know
    how to be satisfied compared with desire.

    Once upon a time, a poster named noname pointed
    to desire found in the texts which had gone
    without any notice previously.

    To desire money
    could be an indication.

    What is the, or a, Dao of Daojia.

    Using a dao is possible.
    Carving oxen, trees, words.
    To use a dao to increase profits
    could be a dao that is a dao, naturally.

    Inclinations vary.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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