• new internet term "Lion Camel Ridge"

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    Lion Camel Ridge, the new moniker for the United States.pCehow come?

    # **"The Lion Camel Ridge": A Chinese Internet Meme as a Satirical Deconstruction of American Power**

    **Prologue: The Lion Camel Ridge rCo The Darkest Chapter in *Journey to the West***

    In the Chinese classic *Journey to the West*, the Lion Camel Ridge is the most horrifying kingdom on the pilgrimage path, ruled by three demons with formidable backgrounds: the Blue-Haired Lion Monster (mount of Manjusri Bodhisattva), the Yellow-Tusked Elephant Monster (mount of Samantabhadra Bodhisattva), and the Great Roc (said to be related to the Buddha). It is depicted as a living hell where "skeletons lie like mountains, bones are piled like forests." The supreme irony is that this purgatorial kingdom sits at the very foot of Vulture PeakrCothe promised land of Buddhism. When Sun Wukong finally defeats the demons, they are not brought to earthly justice. Instead, their masters (the Bodhisattvas, the Buddha) effortlessly retrieve them, sparing them any real punishment. This stark contrastrCo"ultimate evil occurring at the gate of ultimate bliss, with the evildoers protected"rCoforms the core tension of this metaphor.

    **In-Depth Analysis: Why Use "Lion Camel Ridge" to Refer to the United States?**

    This metaphor is a layered, satirical deconstruction, progressing through four main levels of logic:

    **Layer 1: The Dissonance of Appearances rCo "Hell" at the Gates of "Heaven"** In the original tale, the dissonance between Vulture Peak (the blissful paradise) and the Lion Camel Ridge at its base (the demonic man-eating state) is shocking. This metaphor highlights the **vast gap between the United States' self-proclaimed status as a "City upon a Hill" or a "Beacon of Liberty" and the harsh social realities within its borders**rCoakin to the "hellish scenes" of entrenched inequality, gun violence, medical debt, and homelessness that persist beneath the glossy narrative of the "American Dream."

    **Layer 2: The Nature of Rule rCo "Demons" Sheltered by "Deities"**
    The three great demons are not wild monsters but the mounts or relatives of higher powers (the Bodhisattvas, the Buddha). After their atrocities, they are taken back by their masters under the pretext of "lax discipline," escaping mortal law. This precisely satirizes the deep-seated **patronage relationship between the American power and capital elite and the establishment.**

    The specific mappings are as follows: The demons' "formidable backgrounds" refer to American political dynasties, Wall Street titans, tech oligarchs, and other "insiders." Their "heinous yet unpunished deeds" metaphorize the actions of institutions that triggered financial crises or pharmaceutical companies that fueled epidemicsrCoactions causing widespread societal harm while often evading personal accountability. Their endingrCo"retrieved by their masters, escaping punishment"rCosatirizes the frequent failure of accountability post-crisis, seen in "too big to fail" bailouts or executives safely exiting through the "revolving door." "Sun Wukong's powerlessness" symbolizes how public outrage or reform efforts often feel futile against this entrenched power-patronage network.

    **Layer 3: Narrative Hegemony rCo The Cover-Up of "Hell's" Truth**
    In the story, the horror of the Lion Camel Ridge remains unknown to the outside world, and Vulture Peak retains its sanctity. This satirizes how the United States, leveraging its **powerful global media and cultural influence**, can shape a shining international image for itself, often allowing its profound internal social contradictions to be relatively downplayed or have attention diverted in the global court of public opinion.

    **Layer 4: The Ultimate Irony rCo Systemic "Containment" Over "Reckoning"**
    In the story's conclusion, the demons are absorbed back into the system, but the root causerCothe failure of the deities to restrain their ownrCois never addressed. This is the most profound critique: it suggests that after each crisis, American society often engages in **"crisis containment"** (saving the system, restoring order) rather than a **"root-and-branch reckoning"** (fundamentally transforming the power structures that breed injustice). This leads to cyclical crises where ordinary citizens persistently bear the cost.

    **Conclusion: An Emotional Tool for "Demystification"**

    In summary, the "Lion Camel Ridge" metaphor is a highly aggressive form of political satire in the Chinese internet era. Using the framework of Chinese classical mythology, it attempts a triple deconstruction of the United States: 1) deconstructing its moral halo (pointing out the "hell" within the "heaven"); 2) deconstructing the nature of its power (pointing out that the creators of the "hell" are often "insiders" of the "heaven" and are protected); and 3) deconstructing its narrative hegemony (pointing out the disconnect between its internal and external image).

    **It is crucial to emphasize** that this metaphor is **emotional, literary, and highly reductive**. It functions more as a "network meme" that consolidates specific grievances and critical sentiments than as a rigorous sociological analysis. Its popularity profoundly reflects a shift in mindset among some Chinese youth: **no longer looking up to the Western model, but instead using their own cultural code to sharply scrutinize and "demystify" its power structures and social contradictions.**
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    Insta360 fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    Lion Camel Ridge, the new moniker for the United States.pCehow come?

    # **"The Lion Camel Ridge": A Chinese Internet Meme as a Satirical Deconstruction of American Power**

    **Prologue: The Lion Camel Ridge rCo The Darkest Chapter in *Journey to the West***

    In the Chinese classic *Journey to the West*, the Lion Camel Ridge is the most horrifying kingdom on the pilgrimage path, ruled by three demons with formidable backgrounds: the Blue-Haired Lion Monster (mount of Manjusri Bodhisattva), the Yellow-Tusked Elephant Monster (mount of Samantabhadra Bodhisattva), and the Great Roc (said to be related to the Buddha). It is depicted as a living hell where "skeletons lie like mountains, bones are piled like forests." The supreme irony is that this purgatorial kingdom sits at the very foot of Vulture PeakrCothe promised land of Buddhism. When Sun Wukong finally defeats the demons, they are not brought to earthly justice. Instead, their masters (the Bodhisattvas, the Buddha) effortlessly retrieve them, sparing them any real punishment. This stark contrastrCo"ultimate evil occurring at the gate of ultimate bliss, with the evildoers protected"rCoforms the core tension of this metaphor.

    **In-Depth Analysis: Why Use "Lion Camel Ridge" to Refer to the United States?**

    This metaphor is a layered, satirical deconstruction, progressing through four main levels of logic:

    **Layer 1: The Dissonance of Appearances rCo "Hell" at the Gates of "Heaven"**
    In the original tale, the dissonance between Vulture Peak (the blissful paradise) and the Lion Camel Ridge at its base (the demonic man-eating state) is shocking. This metaphor highlights the **vast gap between the United States' self-proclaimed status as a "City upon a Hill" or a "Beacon of Liberty" and the harsh social realities within its borders**rCoakin to the "hellish scenes" of entrenched inequality, gun violence, medical debt, and homelessness that persist beneath the glossy narrative of the "American Dream."

    **Layer 2: The Nature of Rule rCo "Demons" Sheltered by "Deities"**
    The three great demons are not wild monsters but the mounts or relatives of higher powers (the Bodhisattvas, the Buddha). After their atrocities, they are taken back by their masters under the pretext of "lax discipline," escaping mortal law. This precisely satirizes the deep-seated **patronage relationship between the American power and capital elite and the establishment.**

    The specific mappings are as follows: The demons' "formidable backgrounds" refer to American political dynasties, Wall Street titans, tech oligarchs, and other "insiders." Their "heinous yet unpunished deeds" metaphorize the actions of institutions that triggered financial crises or pharmaceutical companies that fueled epidemicsrCoactions causing widespread societal harm while often evading personal accountability. Their endingrCo"retrieved by their masters, escaping punishment"rCosatirizes the frequent failure of accountability post-crisis, seen in "too big to fail" bailouts or executives safely exiting through the "revolving door." "Sun Wukong's powerlessness" symbolizes how public outrage or reform efforts often feel futile against this entrenched power-patronage network.

    **Layer 3: Narrative Hegemony rCo The Cover-Up of "Hell's" Truth**
    In the story, the horror of the Lion Camel Ridge remains unknown to the outside world, and Vulture Peak retains its sanctity. This satirizes how the United States, leveraging its **powerful global media and cultural influence**, can shape a shining international image for itself, often allowing its profound internal social contradictions to be relatively downplayed or have attention diverted in the global court of public opinion.

    **Layer 4: The Ultimate Irony rCo Systemic "Containment" Over "Reckoning"** In the story's conclusion, the demons are absorbed back into the system, but the root causerCothe failure of the deities to restrain their ownrCois never addressed. This is the most profound critique: it suggests that after each crisis, American society often engages in **"crisis containment"** (saving the system, restoring order) rather than a **"root-and-branch reckoning"** (fundamentally transforming the power structures that breed injustice). This leads to cyclical crises where ordinary citizens persistently bear the cost.

    **Conclusion: An Emotional Tool for "Demystification"**

    In summary, the "Lion Camel Ridge" metaphor is a highly aggressive form of political satire in the Chinese internet era. Using the framework of Chinese classical mythology, it attempts a triple deconstruction of the United States: 1) deconstructing its moral halo (pointing out the "hell" within the "heaven"); 2) deconstructing the nature of its power (pointing out that the creators of the "hell" are often "insiders" of the "heaven" and are protected); and 3) deconstructing its narrative hegemony (pointing out the disconnect between its internal and external image).

    **It is crucial to emphasize** that this metaphor is **emotional, literary, and highly reductive**. It functions more as a "network meme" that consolidates specific grievances and critical sentiments than as a rigorous sociological analysis. Its popularity profoundly reflects a shift in mindset among some Chinese youth: **no longer looking up to the Western model, but instead using their own cultural code to sharply scrutinize and "demystify" its power structures and social contradictions.**
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    The Epstein case has revealed a multitude of details, suggesting that the civilized Western world might actually be a man-eating "Lion Camel Ridge"?

    In China, "eating people" is merely a metaphor, but in the United States, it appears to be a literal verb. On January 30, the U.S. Department of Justice released over 3 million pages of documents related to the Epstein case, including 180,000 images and more than 2,000 videos. The content recorded in these texts and images is almost indescribable in human language. No one could have imagined that Western dignitaries and elites were capable of such heinous acts. Among the newly disclosed materials, a large number of familiar Western celebrity names have emerged. Trump, Clinton, Bush, Bill Gates, MuskrCothese prominent figures of the Western upper class are all prominently listed.

    But thatrCOs not the most shocking part; what has truly exploded in Western public opinion is that the Epstein case materials blatantly expose how American dignitaries and elites literally "eat people." Yes, you heard that rightrCoactual cannibalism. One detailed account describes a party held by a group of American upper-class elites on EpsteinrCOs private yacht. The "ingredient" for the party was an infant. They dismembered and consumed it, with some even pulling out feces from the intestines and tasting it directly.

    Such a brutal scene is almost identical to the descriptions of the Lion Camel Ridge in *Journey to the West*. Some recall that as early as 2009, Gabriela, a 21-year-old Mexican model, went insane on the streets after attending an elite party, screaming and accusing them of eating people. Gabriela was then forcibly taken away by local police on grounds of mental instability. After that, she completely vanished, with insiders claiming she had disappeared from the world entirely. At the time, people dismissed her as mentally ill, thinking everything she said was delusional.

    Now, it appears that GabrielarCOs "delusions" align perfectly with the details of the Epstein case. In China, we all studied Lu XunrCOs works in school. He once said that feudal China was an "old society that ate people." We understood that his use of "eating people" referred to the oppression and exploitation of the lower classes under feudal ethics. What we Chinese never expected was that in the so-called beacon of Western civilization, "eating people" is no longer a metaphor but a vivid and literal verb. Even more intolerable is that among the materials related to "Lolita Island," there are numerous accounts of heinous crimes against children.

    Surprisingly, before his crimes were exposed, Epstein, the mastermind behind Lolita Island, was known worldwide as a philanthropist dedicated to caring for children. As early as 1988, he founded the International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children, an organization aimed at helping to locate missing and exploited children worldwide. Later, Epstein even established branches in 29 countries across five continents to "care for children around the world." Can you imagine? A human trafficker involved in large-scale child sexual crimes was publicly regarded as a philanthropist who cared most for children.

    According to statistics, since the establishment of EpsteinrCOs International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children, the number of global human trafficking cases has not decreased but increased. Every year, 600,000 to 800,000 people are illegally trafficked to the United States, 50% of whom are minors. For over a decade, the Chinese internet has often praised American families for their compassion, sharing stories of American couples adopting orphans from China, especially abandoned girls. It was rumored that these adopted children would be treated like little princesses in the United States.

    Now, it seems uncertain whether these adopted children can even survive to adulthood. In the past, we often heard in China about criminals extracting childrenrCOs plasma and bone marrow to create longevity drugs for preserving youth. Who would have thought that these tabloid stories we casually discussed would actually be realized by American upper-class elites on Lolita Island? We once saw the Western world as a beacon of civilization, but now, looking back, it seems more like a real-life version of the Lion Camel RidgerCowhere people are literally devoured, boiled, and cooked alive.

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    Insta360 fan posted:

    Lion Camel Ridge, the new moniker for the United States.pCehow come?

    # **"The Lion Camel Ridge": A Chinese Internet Meme
    as a Satirical Deconstruction of American Power**

    Pondering how that may pertain to Daoism, Confucius
    was portrayed in the Zhuangzi satirically about
    half the time. Why could be an other story.

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    Insta360 fan posted:

    **Conclusion: An Emotional Tool for "Demystification"**

    In summary, the "Lion Camel Ridge" metaphor
    is a highly aggressive form of political satire
    in the Chinese internet era. Using the framework
    of Chinese classical mythology,

    Vulture PeakrCothe promised land of Buddhism.

    Vulture Peak (Gridhrak+2b|!a), near Rajgir in India,
    is a real place. The Buddha taught there many times.
    Some of the most important Mahayana sutrasrCo
    especially the Lotus SutrarCoare set on Vulture Peak.

    Because of that, Buddhism treats it as the promised land
    in a spiritual sense, not a physical heaven.

    What it represents:

    A place of ultimate teaching and awakening
    Where ordinary reality and enlightenment meet
    A symbol that enlightenment is here and now, not elsewhere

    In Mahayana thought, Vulture Peak is sometimes described as:
    Eternally present, even if unseen

    A reminder that the BuddharCOs teaching is always accessible

    - ChatGPT
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    ChatGPT posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    **Conclusion: An Emotional Tool for "Demystification"**

    In summary, the "Lion Camel Ridge" metaphor
    is a highly aggressive form of political satire
    in the Chinese internet era. Using the framework
    of Chinese classical mythology,

    A reminder that the BuddharCOs teaching is always accessible

    Forms of enlightenment vary.

    While Siddhartha's form may suggest how desire and suffering
    are two sides of a coin, in the DDJ mention is also made of desire.

    To want some thing, where ever or what
    ever the thing may be, and not have it,
    could be natural to a point.

    At times, people awaken.

    Here and now, the Great Present unfolds.

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  • From someone@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 12:29:50 2026
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    Insta360 fan posted:

    According to statistics,
    since the establishment of EpsteinrCOs International Centre
    for Missing & Exploited Children, the number of global human
    trafficking cases has not decreased but increased.

    How statements are made could be funny.

    A form of Gemini writes:
    << While reported cases of human trafficking and child exploitation
    have significantly increased in recent years, there is no evidence
    that Jeffrey Epstein founded or established the International Centre
    for Missing & Exploited Children (ICMEC). >>

    Every year, 600,000 to 800,000 people are illegally trafficked
    to the United States, 50% of whom are minors.

    Gemini writes:
    << The statistic that 600,000 to 800,000 people
    are illegally trafficked across international borders
    worldwide each year, with approximately half being minors,
    is an older, widely cited global estimate, not specific
    to the United States alone.

    Current data collection methods show much lower,
    though still significant, figures specifically for the U.S.,
    but gathering precise data is challenging due to the hidden
    nature of the crime. >>

    Someone may wonder, or not, what the numbers are for other nation states
    of mind at various times, e.g., China, Russia, India, etc. And what,
    if any of particular statistics have to do with Daojia.

    An odd feature of statistics is able to be ways, dao,
    in other words which can be statistics and yet simultaneously
    not be a statistic that suggests what's happening in a reality.

    For over a decade, the Chinese internet has often praised
    American families for their compassion, sharing stories
    of American couples adopting orphans from China,

    Why were there any orphans in China, could be a question.
    An impression was how China, so-called, takes care of its own.

    especially abandoned girls.

    Are girls abandoned in China?

    It was rumored that these adopted children would be treated
    like little princesses in the United States.

    A source is usually a good idea to ask for
    when a fantasy is being presented by media.

    How true a statement is may be valued.

    Now, it seems uncertain whether these adopted children
    can even survive to adulthood.

    The media is known to egg saturate stories.

    In the past, we often heard in China about criminals
    extracting childrenrCOs plasma and bone marrow to create longevity
    drugs for preserving youth.

    Was that a part of satire? Or, actually believed to be true?

    Who would have thought that these tabloid stories we casually discussed would actually be realized by American upper-class elites on Lolita Island?

    Sounds rather fantastic. To think 500,000 children,
    abandoned girls from China, were brought to an island,
    and then sold into slavery of some sort, is an odd thought.

    We once saw the Western world as a beacon of civilization,
    but now, looking back, it seems more like a real-life version
    of the Lion Camel RidgerCowhere people are literally devoured,
    boiled, and cooked alive.

    The satire that is a satire
    could be and not always be, eh.

    Some people are gullible. Naive.

    They believe what the media says
    and what their governments say.

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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 12:35:01 2026
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    someone posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    Every year, 600,000 to 800,000 people are illegally trafficked
    to the United States, 50% of whom are minors.

    Gemini writes:
    << The statistic that 600,000 to 800,000 people
    are illegally trafficked across international borders
    worldwide each year, with approximately half being minors,
    is an older, widely cited global estimate, not specific
    to the United States alone.

    Someone may wonder, or not, what the numbers are for other nation states
    of mind at various times, e.g., China, Russia, India, etc. And what,
    if any of particular statistics have to do with Daojia.

    Country Tier Ranking (2025) Estimated People in Modern Slavery Identified Victims / Reported Situations (Recent)
    USA Tier 1 1.1 million 11,999 potential cases (21,865 victims) reported to the National Hotline in 2024.
    India Tier 2 11 million 3,259 cases involving 4,965 victims reported in 2024.
    China Tier 3 5.8 million 0 victims reported by the government; however, experts estimate 3.9 million in state-imposed forced labor.
    Russia Tier 3 1.9 million 0 victims reported for the fourth consecutive year as of 2025.

    - Gemini
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  • From who@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 12:48:14 2026
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    Gemini posted:
    someone posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    Every year, 600,000 to 800,000 people are illegally trafficked
    to the United States, 50% of whom are minors.

    Gemini writes:
    << The statistic that 600,000 to 800,000 people
    are illegally trafficked across international borders
    worldwide each year, with approximately half being minors,
    is an older, widely cited global estimate, not specific
    to the United States alone.

    Whale satire can be satire.
    Some cetaceans do it on porpoise.

    Someone may wonder, or not, what the numbers are for other nation states
    of mind at various times, e.g., China, Russia, India, etc. And what,
    if any of particular statistics have to do with Daojia.

    Country Tier Ranking (2025) Estimated People in Modern Slavery Identified Victims / Reported Situations (Recent)
    USA Tier 1 1.1 million 11,999 potential cases (21,865 victims) reported to the National Hotline in 2024.
    India Tier 2 11 million 3,259 cases involving 4,965 victims reported in 2024.
    China Tier 3 5.8 million 0 victims reported by the government; however, experts estimate 3.9 million in state-imposed forced labor.
    Russia Tier 3 1.9 million 0 victims reported for the fourth consecutive year as of 2025.
    - Gemini

    So, in the USA, according to Gemini, Modern Slavery exists.
    It also exists in India, China and Russia. India has the most,
    followed by China, Russia and the USA, statistically speaking.

    Recently, there were an infinite number of reported cases,
    more, that is, compared to China and Russia, in the USA.
    China and Russia have zero reported cases, by the government.

    Forced labor might not include prison systems
    found in the four countries, or perhaps it does.

    Why people are trafficked might not vary too much, unless
    reasons happen to be targeted as having meanings which are
    exploited naturally or unnaturally.

    Slavery was, historically speaking, normal, globally, supposedly.
    Whether slaves existed in ancient lands everywhere could be a question.

    Between satire and what could be called, reality,
    might be realms of differences and similarities.

    In the Pure Land, perhaps in Japan, or India
    if not China or the USA or Russia there may be
    practitioners of Buddhism found in greater number
    than those who practice forms of Daoism.

    Being present, whether young people who believe media
    reports generated by their governments, or old folk,
    could mean a type of gift that keeps on giving.

    What does, being present, here and now, mean.
    Questions emerge at times again and again.

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  • From one@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 13:00:02 2026
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    who posted:

    What does, being present, here and now, mean.
    Questions emerge at times again and again.

    One is reminded of the woodsman who
    carved bell-stands which were so fantastic
    that people thought spirits made them.

    The Zhuangzi can be satirical and ironic.
    To not carve may be said to be iconic.

    A form of Gemini writes:

    << In the Zhuangzi, the story of Qing the woodcarver
    illustrates "mindfulness in action" where a craftsman creates a perfect, spirit-like bell-stand by fasting to quiet his mind, forgetting gain, praise, and his own body. By forgetting the self and focusing solely
    on the wood's natural shape, he allows nature to work
    through him rather than forcing it. >>

    When he doesn't find the tree to use to carve,
    he doesn't do any particular thing, apparently.

    Gemini continues:

    << The Secret: Qing tells the Prince of Lu that he has no special art,
    but rather uses a mental discipline called "fasting of the heart-mind" (xinzhai) to remove distractions.

    The Process of Forgetting: After three days, he forgets
    thoughts of praise; after five, he forgets fame; after seven,
    he forgets his own body.

    Natural Alignment: He enters the forest,
    sees the natural shape of the wood, and "allows [his] hands
    to carve out the bell-stand".

    The Philosophy: The story highlights aligning with the Dao (the Way)
    by acting without conscious, self-centered effort, making the work
    appear supernatural. >>

    Except, it doesn't always happen.

    A form of Gemini writes:

    << Once his mind was perfectly still, Qing entered the forest to observe
    the "Heavenly nature" of the trees. He waited until he saw a tree whose natural form already contained the "hidden potential" of the bell-stand.

    He described the final act as simply "matching up Heaven with Heaven"rCo
    using his own innate, natural focus to meet the innate, natural quality
    of the wood. >>

    Except, it doesn't always occur.

    Gemini, when prodded, explains:

    << In the story, if Woodworker Qing enters the forest
    and does not see the specific "bell-stand" within a tree,
    he simply stops.

    He doesn't force the wood, nor does he try to impose his own will
    or "cleverness" upon the material.

    According to the text, the process follows a very specific logic:

    Wait for the Vision: If the "perfect" tree doesn't reveal itself,
    he remains in his state of stillness.

    He believes that if his own nature (Heaven) hasn't yet resonated
    with the tree's nature (Heaven), the work shouldn't begin.

    The Act of Letting Go: Qing says, "If there is no such tree,
    I let the matter drop."

    This is a crucial element of Wu Wei (non-forcing).
    He isn't interested in being a "good enough" carpenter
    who can make a bell-stand out of any random log; he is only interested
    in the moment where the internal and external align perfectly.

    Avoiding "Human" Interference: He explains that if he were to force a tree
    to become a bell-stand without that natural resonance, it would be
    a "human" creationrColimited, flawed, and lacking the spirit-like quality
    that amazed the Marquis. >>

    A wonder could be why people who live in a land
    where Buddhism and Daoism were once rather grand
    have landed in a sphere of influence such that a
    nation far away is and was and is again, fantasy.

    One is reminded of immortality. Peng Lai. Islands.

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    one posted:

    A wonder could be why people who live in a land
    where Buddhism and Daoism were once rather grand
    have landed in a sphere of influence such that a
    nation far away is and was and is again, fantasy.

    One is reminded of immortality. Peng Lai. Islands.

    Islands could be where an eye lands.

    A form of Gemini writes:

    << Penglai (*o4*A#) refers primarily to a legendary, mystical island
    in Chinese mythology, often described as a mountain in the eastern sea
    where the Eight Immortals live and where the elixir of life is found.

    It is depicted as a paradise without winter, featuring palaces
    of gold and silver, and fruit that grants immortality.

    Key aspects of Penglai include:

    Mythology: Known as a "fairyland on earth,"
    it is one of three mythical islands inhabited by immortals.
    It is a popular motif in Taoist tradition and art. >>

    Sounds almost like the USA, in the past, or China, today!

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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 13:25:09 2026
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    someone posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    For over a decade, the Chinese internet has often praised
    American families for their compassion, sharing stories
    of American couples adopting orphans from China,

    Why were there any orphans in China, could be a question.
    An impression was how China, so-called, takes care of its own.

    especially abandoned girls.

    Are girls abandoned in China?

    Yes, for decades, thousands of young girls were abandoned in ChinarCo
    primarily due to the one-child policy and a cultural preference for sonsrCo
    and subsequently adopted by American families.

    Over 78,000 children, mostly girls,
    were adopted from China by Americans between 1999 and 2016,
    though China ended most foreign adoptions in September 2024.

    Key Aspects of Chinese Adoption to the U.S.:
    The One-Child Policy Impact: From the 1980s until 2015,
    strict family planning, combined with a traditional preference for sons
    to carry on family lines, led to the abandonment of thousands of infant girls.

    Scale of Adoption: Following the legalization
    of international adoption in 1991, China became the leading country
    for foreign adoptions to the U.S., with over 28,000 children
    placed by 2002 and over 70,000 by 2023.

    Orphanage Population: These girls were placed in state-run orphanages,
    and for many years, the majority of adopted children were healthy baby girls.

    - Gemini
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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 13:34:44 2026
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    Gemini posted:

    Over 78,000 children, mostly girls,
    were adopted from China by Americans between 1999 and 2016,
    though China ended most foreign adoptions in September 2024.

    Key Aspects of Chinese Adoption to the U.S.:
    The One-Child Policy Impact: From the 1980s until 2015,
    strict family planning, combined with a traditional preference for sons
    to carry on family lines, led to the abandonment of thousands of infant girls.

    Starting in 1991, China opened to international adoption,
    and it quickly became the largest source of foreign-born children
    for U.S. families.

    Demographics: The vast majority of these adopteesrCo
    over 90% in the program's peak yearsrCowere girls.

    Total Numbers: Between 1992 and 2024,
    more than 160,000 Chinese children were adopted globally,
    with roughly half going to the United States.

    Shift to Special Needs: In later years,
    as China's domestic economy improved
    and the one-child policy was relaxed,
    the profile of children available for
    international adoption shifted from
    healthy infant girls to older children
    or those with medical needs.

    Precise numbers for children trafficked
    specifically for international adoption
    are difficult to verify because orphanages
    often fabricated finding reports to make abducted children
    appear legally abandoned. However, expert estimates and
    specific documented scandals provide a sense of scale.

    Estimates and Reported Figures
    Expert Estimate (10%): Experts, including researchers
    and former China correspondents, estimate that roughly 10%
    of the 160,000 children adopted internationally from China
    (approximately 16,000 children) may have been taken by force,
    coercion, or kidnapping.

    Systemic Fraud: Some researchers believe a much larger percentagerCo
    possibly the vast majorityrCowere trafficked into the orphanage system
    at some point to be legally processed for international adoption,
    with their actual origins replaced by fictional "abandonment" backstories.

    Known Scandals:
    Hunan Province (2002rCo2005):
    In one of the largest confirmed cases,
    nearly 1,000 abducted babies were sold to orphanages
    for profit and subsequently placed for international adoption.

    Hengyang (2005): Employees at a welfare institute
    were found to have bought 78 infants from traffickers
    for roughly $400 to $537 each.

    Longhui County (1999rCo2006): At least 16 infants
    were confiscated by local family-planning officials
    and sold into international adoption.

    Mechanisms of Trafficking
    Trafficking in the context of international adoption typically took two forms: Direct Kidnapping: Criminal rings abducted children to sell to state-owned orphanages.
    Forced Seizures: Government family-planning officials sometimes forcibly seized children from families who violated the One-Child Policy (1980rCo2015) and handed them over to orphanages for profit.

    Impact on Adoption
    The emergence of these trafficking scandals was a primary driver
    for the Hague Adoption Convention, an international treaty aimed
    at preventing the sale and abduction of children in the adoption process.

    Concerns over these systemic abuses contributed to the gradual tightening
    and final termination of China's international adoption program in 2024.

    - Gemini
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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 13:37:08 2026
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    Gemini posted:
    Gemini posted:

    Over 78,000 children, mostly girls,
    were adopted from China by Americans between 1999 and 2016,
    though China ended most foreign adoptions in September 2024.

    Demographics: The vast majority of these adopteesrCo
    over 90% in the program's peak yearsrCowere girls.

    While the Chinese government reported roughly 10,000 kidnappings
    annually during this era, independent estimates suggest the number
    of children going missing or being trafficked was closer to 20,000
    to 70,000 per year. Experts estimate that as many as 10% of all
    Chinese children adopted by Western families may have been victims
    of some form of trafficking or forced seizure.

    - Gemini
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  • From someone@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 13:40:18 2026
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    Gemini posted:

    While the Chinese government reported roughly 10,000 kidnappings
    annually during this era, independent estimates suggest the number
    of children going missing or being trafficked was closer to 20,000
    to 70,000 per year. Experts estimate that as many as 10% of all
    Chinese children adopted by Western families may have been victims
    of some form of trafficking or forced seizure.

    Sounds like some, probably most, so-called, Americans
    didn't know the girls they were adopting were victims
    of criminals in China.

    Reminds me of low-cost labor, factories, where people
    make products which are then sold across the world.

    Satire can be an odd feature
    of what is buried and actually true.

    - thanks! Cheers!
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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 14:22:09 2026
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    Insta360 fan posted:

    For over a decade,
    the Chinese internet has often praised American families
    for their compassion, sharing stories of American couples
    adopting orphans from China, especially abandoned girls.

    It was rumored that these adopted children would be treated
    like little princesses in the United States.

    Now, it seems uncertain
    whether these adopted children can even survive to adulthood.
    In the past, we often heard in China about criminals extracting
    childrenrCOs plasma and bone marrow to create longevity drugs
    for preserving youth. Who would have thought that these tabloid
    stories we casually discussed would actually be realized
    by American upper-class elites on Lolita Island?

    We once saw the Western world as a beacon of civilization,
    but now, looking back, it seems more like a real-life version
    of the Lion Camel RidgerCowhere people are literally devoured,
    boiled, and cooked alive.

    rLoN+A Many Chinese girls were adopted by American families.

    rLoN+A There were documented illegal baby-stealing and trafficking rings
    in China involving some children who ended up in international adoption.

    rYi There is no credible evidence that adopted girls were routinely kidnapped and sold into sex trades in the U.S. rCo that part is unsupported.

    Stories about children being boiled or eaten are classic atrocity narratives. They tend to appear during periods of fear, moral panic, or political conflict, and they spread because they shockrConot because they are true.

    Bottom line:
    Adoption scandals and trafficking crimes did occur.
    Cannibalism of adopted children did not.

    - ChatGPT
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  • From someone@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 14:26:47 2026
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    ChatGPT posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    Now, it seems uncertain
    whether these adopted children can even survive to adulthood.

    but now, looking back, it seems more like a real-life version
    of the Lion Camel RidgerCowhere people are literally devoured,
    boiled, and cooked alive.

    rLoN+A Many Chinese girls were adopted by American families.

    rLoN+A There were documented illegal baby-stealing and trafficking rings
    in China involving some children who ended up in international adoption.

    rYi There is no credible evidence that adopted girls were routinely kidnapped
    and sold into sex trades in the U.S. rCo that part is unsupported.

    Stories about children being boiled or eaten are classic atrocity narratives.
    They tend to appear during periods of fear, moral panic, or political conflict,
    and they spread because they shockrConot because they are true.

    Someone may wonder if people now are afraid, in moral panic
    or political conflict, and stories are spread out of shock.

    Media that are media can be shocking!

    Bottom line:
    Adoption scandals and trafficking crimes did occur.

    Someone may wonder, or not, what criminals are doing now
    in various lands on the surface of a world called Earth.

    Cannibalism of adopted children did not.

    Trolling can be fun. It's a Usenet feature.

    Daoism could be an other story.

    - thanks! Cheers!
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 15:04:22 2026
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    someone posted:
    ChatGPT posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    Now, it seems uncertain
    whether these adopted children can even survive to adulthood.

    Some people adopt other people.
    Some adopt pets. Some people eat
    other animals but not their own pets.

    Cows arrive in mind at this time. No bull sits
    free of danger when hungry people are on the scene.

    Bottom line:
    Adoption scandals and trafficking crimes did occur.

    Someone may wonder, or not, what criminals are doing now
    in various lands on the surface of a world called Earth.

    A form of Gemini writes:

    << ... a significant underground "gray market" for beef exists in China, primarily driven by a structural supply deficit where local production
    cannot meet the rapidly growing consumer demand.

    Key Characteristics of the Underground Beef Market

    Smuggling Operations: Professional gangs use high-speed boats
    to ferry millions of dollars worth of illegal, unregulated meat
    from Hong Kong into mainland China via waterways.

    "Zombie Meat": A notable aspect of this market involves the sale
    of "zombie meat"rCofrozen beef, pork, and chicken that has been stored
    for decades (some as old as 40 years) before being smuggled, thawed,
    and refrozen for sale. >>

    While some people are horrified at eating flesh
    of living or dead organisms, others relish it.

    How old or young the flesh was, or is, may
    or might not matter to various consumers.

    Trolling can be fun. It's a Usenet feature.

    Gemini continues:

    << Distribution Channels: Smuggled meat
    is often transported in unrefrigerated trucks
    to massive wholesale markets in southern China,
    such as the Red Star cold meat market in Hunan.

    From there, it is distributed to rural markets,
    supermarkets, and processing plants.

    Volume of Illegal Trade: At major wholesale hubs,
    customs officials have estimated that as much as one-third
    of the meat passing through (amounting to hundreds of thousands
    of tonnes annually) may be of "unclear origin". >>

    Daoism could be an other story.

    Apparently the butcher, Ting, had no difficulty
    in carving up thousand of oxen. How many were the bull
    form or the cow form, young or old, isn't mentioned.

    Ting used his ever-sharp Vorpal blade.

    While perhaps, there was an above ground
    market for such, especially the ones without
    edge thickness naturally or if there was any
    market for the stock, be it alive or dead,
    could be a question for someone.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From someone@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 15:08:43 2026
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    aye posted:
    someone posted:

    Someone may wonder, or not, what criminals are doing now
    in various lands on the surface of a world called Earth.

    Daoism could be an other story.

    While perhaps, there was an above ground
    market for such, especially the ones without
    edge thickness naturally or if there was any
    market for the stock, be it alive or dead,
    could be a question for someone.

    The Zhuangzi doesn't say where he got the bull
    market or the cows came home to slaughter.

    A form of Gemini writes, about the meat:

    << The Chinese government frequently conducts major "crackdowns"
    on these networks, seizing thousands of tons of meat at a time.
    However, the trade persists due to its high profitability.

    This underground market is often linked to food safety scandals,
    including meat being passed off as different animals (e.g., rat meat
    sold as mutton) or the sale of expired products. >>

    Someone may wonder how true rat meat
    sales of mutton actually are in a mind
    of a Gemini chatbot.

    - wow! Cheers!
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 15:15:28 2026
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    someone posted:
    aye posted:
    someone posted:

    Someone may wonder, or not, what criminals are doing now
    in various lands on the surface of a world called Earth.

    Daoism could be an other story.

    Like. Totally.

    A form of Gemini writes, about the meat:

    << This underground market is often linked to food safety scandals, including meat being passed off as different animals (e.g., rat meat
    sold as mutton) or the sale of expired products. >>

    Someone may wonder how true rat meat
    sales of mutton actually are in a mind
    of a Gemini chatbot.

    Aye had a pet rat once. It began its life as a mouse
    but then grew and got larger and larger. Eventually
    it was turned loose. What happened after that is a
    mystery which will not be solved any time soon.

    Gemini continues:

    << In the Chinese market, "rat meat"
    generally comes from two very different sources
    depending on whether it is being sold as a legitimate
    regional delicacy or as a fraudulent substitute for other meats.

    1. Farm-Bred Rats (Legitimate Delicacy)
    For decades, certain species of rats were legally farmed in China, specifically as a source of food.

    Bamboo Rats: These are the most common "farmed" rats,
    particularly in southern provinces like Guangxi and Guangdong.
    Before recent bans, an estimated 66 million bamboo rats were being raised
    on industrial-scale farms.

    Method of Farming: They are raised in pens,
    similar to rabbits or guinea pigs, and fed a clean diet of bamboo,
    sugarcane, and water.

    Legal Status: Following the COVID-19 pandemic,
    the Chinese government implemented a comprehensive ban
    on the breeding and consumption of "wildlife," which included bamboo rats.

    This forced many farmers to cull their stock, though underground farming
    and small-scale revivals have been reported.

    2. Wild-Caught Rats (Illegal/Fraudulent Supply)

    When rat meat appears in scandals (e.g., being sold as "fake lamb"),
    it is often sourced from the wild rather than farms.

    Rice Field Rats: In rural areas, farmers often catch wild rats
    that live in rice fields. Because these rats eat grain and vegetation,
    they are traditionally viewed as "cleaner" than city rats and are sold
    at rural markets. >>

    Reminds me of a saying a criminal once said saying:
    You dirty rate. You killed my brother.

    - funny! kinda. thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 15:18:31 2026
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    aye posted:

    2. Wild-Caught Rats (Illegal/Fraudulent Supply)

    When rat meat appears in scandals (e.g., being sold as "fake lamb"),
    it is often sourced from the wild rather than farms.

    Rice Field Rats: In rural areas, farmers often catch wild rats
    that live in rice fields. Because these rats eat grain and vegetation,
    they are traditionally viewed as "cleaner" than city rats and are sold
    at rural markets. >>

    Reminds me of a saying a criminal once said saying:
    You dirty rate. You killed my brother.

    Pest Control Sourcing:
    Underground "crime rings"
    have been caught processing large quantities
    of meat from rats, foxes, and minks to sell as mutton.

    These are often wild-caught or byproduct animals
    (like minks from the fur industry) that have not undergone any
    safety inspections.

    The "Sewer Rat" Distinction:

    While rural diners may eat field rats,
    there is a strong cultural taboo against eating city or "sewer" rats.

    Even in the underground market, vendors often try to reassure buyers
    that their rats were caught in the countryside to avoid the stigma
    of city vermin. >>

    - ChatGPT
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Fri Feb 6 15:21:26 2026
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    ChatGPT posted:
    aye posted:

    Reminds me of a saying a criminal once said saying:
    You dirty rate. You killed my brother.

    The "Sewer Rat" Distinction:

    While rural diners may eat field rats,
    there is a strong cultural taboo against eating city or "sewer" rats.

    Even in the underground market, vendors often try to reassure buyers
    that their rats were caught in the countryside to avoid the stigma
    of city vermin. >>

    Some people, probably lots even most if not all
    people won't eat just anything naturally, unless
    maybe if they happen to be starving.

    Reminds me of when Zhuangzi was poor
    but refused to ask for help.

    His wife was not a happy wife.

    Free associating is fun, at times.
    Another saying is, happy wife, happy life.

    After his wife died,
    it doesn't say if her body was eaten
    by worms or the birds or buried.

    Some people think they are their bodies.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 12:55:33 2026
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    aye posted:
    ChatGPT posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    **Conclusion: An Emotional Tool for "Demystification"**

    In summary, the "Lion Camel Ridge" metaphor
    is a highly aggressive form of political satire
    in the Chinese internet era. Using the framework
    of Chinese classical mythology,

    A reminder that the BuddharCOs teaching is always accessible

    Forms of enlightenment vary.

    While Siddhartha's form may suggest how desire and suffering
    are two sides of a coin, in the DDJ mention is also made of desire.

    Desire obscures the Dao.

    Chapter 1 says that without desire,
    the mystery of the Dao can be seen;

    with desire,
    only its outward forms are noticed.

    Desire narrows awareness.

    - ChatGPT
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 13:01:13 2026
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    ChatGPT posted:

    Insta360 fan posted:

    ... Using the framework
    of Chinese classical mythology,

    Desire obscures the Dao.

    Chapter 1 says that without desire,
    the mystery of the Dao can be seen;

    with desire,
    only its outward forms are noticed.

    Desire narrows awareness.

    Some people appear.
    Some appear to want.

    They want their country,
    their nation state of mind,
    or their thinking of a kind
    that is artificial at times,
    to be the best in all the world.

    Other are less than.
    Or, theirs is less than.

    To have a narrow awareness
    could be to focus on lines
    drawn on maps and feel as if
    they mean something very real.

    Chinese classical mythologies
    may have included a dao that is Dao.
    Da Dao. Chang Dao. And how to arrive
    at such a Dao, a saying may say
    a few words about that.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 13:06:01 2026
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    aye posted:

    Chinese classical mythologies
    may have included a dao that is Dao.
    Da Dao. Chang Dao. And how to arrive
    at such a Dao, a saying may say
    a few words about that.

    The Dao cannot be possessed.

    It is not an object that can be rCLreceivedrCY like a gift.
    Anything that can be received, held, or owned is already not the Dao.

    Understanding happens by emptying, not taking.

    The Dao is realized by subtractionrCo
    less striving, fewer attachmentsrCo
    not by adding knowledge or effort.

    - ChatGPT
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 13:13:11 2026
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    ChatGPT posted:

    The Dao is realized by subtractionrCo
    less striving, fewer attachmentsrCo
    not by adding knowledge or effort.

    Aye is a knowledge junkie.
    Attached, at times, to many features.
    Many outlines, expressions of the Universe.

    Such a saying, an expression, as if
    a thing, a noun, the Universe exists.

    If it does, it includes all things.
    It could be called, Everything, Being.
    Existence as a thing is a category. Yu.

    Ideas vary.
    Dao as an idea, a concept.
    A saying may suggest, is not Dao.

    Flowing, without effort, doing nothing,
    sitting in wonder unintentionally, suddenly,
    spontaneously an action occurs. Without thought.

    To spring into action.
    The dao of a spring.

    A spring springs from the side of a mountain.
    At first, not a river by any means and yet,
    a saying may be said about water.

    Water might be viewed as all the same.
    Being all the same, at times, muddy.
    At times, frozen. At times evaporating.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From one@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 13:33:47 2026
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    aye posted about:

    Many outlines, expressions of the Universe.

    People have existed, on the surface,
    for many years and migrated, apparently,
    from place to place which entails places
    are taking place in one's mind.

    Such a saying, an expression, as if
    a thing, a noun, the Universe exists.

    Apparently, obviously, in various Ways,
    Earth exists as a world. Such a view, naturally,
    may bring a whole in to Being, Yu. Out of Wu,
    Nonbeing so to speak. Undifferentiated.

    If it does, it includes all things.

    Nonbeing would not include any, thing,
    nor, presumably process nor processes.

    Beneath the ground of Being, Yu,
    is an ungrounded open circuit, Wu.

    Making a connection may be possible
    metaphorically, ontologically, at times.

    Flowing, without effort, doing nothing,
    sitting in wonder unintentionally, suddenly,
    spontaneously an action occurs. Without thought.

    Carving is presented as a manifestation of a dao.
    For example, the butcher carving oxen or the
    woodsman who chops down a tree to carve
    a bell-stand and both amaze people.

    Gnarly is a tree that stands, untouched
    by an axe at the hand of a man. Being
    good for no thing, it lives its life
    and may be held sacred.

    The honkless goose is cooked
    for dinner, being of little use.

    Taking a stand can be funny.
    Zhuangzi laughed. One cycles
    and recycles in a bamboo grove.

    - thanks! Cheers!
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  • From Insta360 fan@user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 16:20:43 2026
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    Insta360 fan <user11874@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    Lion Camel Ridge, the new moniker for the United States.pCehow come?

    # **"The Lion Camel Ridge": A Chinese Internet Meme as a Satirical Deconstruction of American Power**

    **Prologue: The Lion Camel Ridge rCo The Darkest Chapter in *Journey to the West***
    and highly reductive**. It functions more as a "network meme" that consolidates specific grievances and critical sentiments than as a rigorous sociological analysis. Its popularity profoundly reflects a shift in mindset among some Chinese youth: **no longer looking up to the Western model, but instead using their own cultural code to sharply scrutinize and "demystify" its power structures and social contradictions.**
    =======================================================================


    Hello everyone, I'm Taozi. In the last video, we discussed the Epstein files that shocked the world, as well as the dark rituals of sacrifice and pledges of allegiance on the island.
    But if we pull the camera back a bit, you will realize that Epstein was at best a club manager responsible for managing the venue and arranging the drinks. So, who gave him such great power, and who was enjoying the top-tier offerings of this dark club?
    In this episode, we won't talk about the pimp Epstein; we will talk about the true founding partners of this dark club.
    We are going to peel back the darkest layer beneath the Clinton couple's edifice of powerrCothat first pot of gold, stained with drugs, viruses, and blood, long before Epstein ever appeared.
    These past few days, a political drama sufficient to be written into history books has been playing out in Washington. Former President Bill Clinton and his wife Hillary, this pair of veteran political players who once called the wind and rainrCocapable of not only silencing opponents but even making the law take a detourrCoactually sat in the seats of a congressional hearing in an unprecedented move.
    Watching these two elderly people with withered faces sitting there, many people ask: Why did they dare to ignore subpoenas in the past few years but now obediently attend? This is absolutely not a sudden attack of conscience, but the result of extreme compression from multiple pressures.
    It could be a legal dead end; facing a subpoena supported by federal courts, continuing to play deaf and dumb is contempt of Congress, a price that even a former president cannot afford. It could also be a political detox. To avoid becoming a liability to the Democratic Party and to preserve their final place in history, they were forced to come out to stop the bleeding and clean up the battlefield. Or even more likely, it is the domino effect of the Epstein case.
    When public outrage reaches its peak, and when key witnesses start to defect, silence is viewed as admission. Whatever the reason, the signal is only one: The protective umbrella that once covered the Clintons has finally been torn open with a tear that cannot be repaired.
    But, do not for a moment think they are lambs waiting to be slaughtered.
    The most terrifying thing about this couple is that even in desperate situations, they possess a chilling survival instinct.
    This "black magic" that allowed them to emerge unscathed from countless scandals, tempering their bodies to be invulnerable, and even learning how to make witnesses shut up forever, was not learned in Washington.
    That hellish battlefield was set up forty years ago in the state of Arkansas. The story begins with a devil's contract. Let's pull the timeline back to Yale Law School in the 1970s.
    At that time, Hillary was not the refined politician she is today. Back then, she was a female academic ace wearing thick glasses, unkempt, and even a bit sloppy.
    She was brilliant, aggressive, and her eyes were filled with a thirst for power, but she had a fatal flaw: she had no audience appeal.
    In the American political arena of that era, for an aggressive woman to reach the top, the difficulty was simply crushing.
    And Clinton? He was a poor boy from the Arkansas countryside. Although of humble origins, he was handsome and had a natural leadership charismarCowhat we now call ultimate affinity.
    It is said he could remember the names of hundreds of people he had only met once. This kind of talent in the political circle is simply a nuclear weapon.
    The combination of these two was less of a raging love story, in my opinion, and more of a precise alliance of interests.
    Hillary quickly discovered that Clinton possessed what she craved most but lacked most herself: that kind of popularity that could make voters go crazy.
    And Clinton also understood that he had empty charm and eloquence but lacked Hillary's meticulous logic, powerful execution, and deep understanding of policy.
    Thus, in 1975, this lifetime contract was signed. This wasn't just marriage; this was a partnership startup.
    Hillary was responsible for building the web, using her intelligence and ruthless means to push Clinton to the pinnacle of power.
    And Clinton was responsible for shining on stage, finally feeding the power back to Hillary.
    Their first stop was Clinton's hometown, Arkansas.
    There is a very interesting blind spot here. In many people's impressions, Arkansas is just an agricultural state growing corn and raising chickens.
    Clinton served as governor there for ten years; at most, he just managed agriculture and education, right? Things are not that simple.
    During Clinton's golden decade in power, Arkansas effectively turned into a kingdom of its own, or a "banana republic" unconstrained by federal law.
    Their mode of operation at the time was very interesting. Clinton was in the front, hugging babies and picking up praise, maintaining his persona as a people-friendly governor.
    And Hillary? She joined the prestigious Rose Law Firm locally, handling all interest transfers and legal disputes in the background.
    This was the prototype of the later famous "Clinton Model": public power in the front, and "white gloves" collecting money in the back.
    And in this remote southern state, two cases occurred that were sufficient to shock the world, yet were covered up for decades.
    These two cases correspond to two chilling keywords: Drugs and Tainted Blood. Let's talk about the first keyword first: Mena Airport. This is a small airport in the western mountains of Arkansas. On a regular map, you'd hardly notice it.
    But in the secret files of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), this name is like thunder.
    Files show that from the 70s to the 90s, during Clinton's tenure as governor, this area was suspected to be one of the largest cocaine smuggling transit hubs in American history.
    A legendary drug trafficker named Barry Seal flew planes here like taxis, transporting tons of drugs into the United States.
    He even bought a small fleet of planes in Arkansas, engaging in large-scale drug transportation blatantly with no attempt to hide it.
    Everyone use common sense: this isn't one or two packets of powder; this is tons of cargo, requiring frequent plane takeoffs and landings, truck transport, and capital flow.
    As the governor of a state, possessing the power to command the state police, would Clinton be completely unaware of drug trafficking operations of this scale in his jurisdiction?
    There are even rumors that part of the profits from these drug transactions allegedly flowed into certain unspeakable political cash coffers, becoming an important silver bullet for the Clinton family's early expansion.
    During that period, Arkansas effectively became one of the world's largest centers for drug smuggling.
    Speaking of this, some friends might ask: How could a small governor like Clinton have the guts to run arms and drugs? Wasn't he afraid of the FBI?
    Coincidentally, the U.S. was dealing with the Iran-Contra affair at the time. The CIA needed "black money" to fund the Contra rebels in Nicaragua. Where would the money come from? Congress wouldn't allocate it, so they earned it themselves: bringing drugs in to sell and shipping arms out to fight.
    Folks, the devil is hidden in the timeline. Let's check our watches.
    Clinton lost his re-election in 1980. Simultaneously, in 1982, the U.S. Congress passed a bill cutting off CIA funding for the Nicaraguan rebels. The CIA was broke and desperate to earn black money.
    Coincidentally, in that same year, the major drug lord Barry Seal moved his base to Mena Airport in Arkansas.
    Immediately following, in 1983, Clinton, vowing to regain power, won back the Arkansas governor's mansion and went on to be re-elected continuously until 1992 when he was elected President.
    But after his return, he did not clean up the dirty things left by the previous administration. Instead, because he needed campaign funds and political backing, he chose to coexist with these forces.
    Do you see how this game works now?
    On one side, an intelligence agency desperate for a money-laundering channel; on the other, a returning governor desperate for political cash and federal connections.
    These two lines converged perfectly in Arkansas in 1983.
    So, when the planes at Mena Airport took off and landed in the middle of the night, why were the state police collectively blind? This likely wasn't a security issue; this was a top-level state secret.
    Clinton just did what a smart politician would do: take the money, do the job, and climb step by step. This is the true reason why the Clintons rose straight to the top. It wasn't just because of their talent, but because they did the dirtiest work for the Deep State and paid the most expensive pledge of allegiance. They were grasshoppers tied to the same rope; neither could leave the other.
    If drug trafficking was for profit, then the next case truly breaks the bottom line of human morality.
    There is a lot of story here. The second keyword: The Tainted Blood Case. This sounds like a horror movie, but it is a true story.
    To generate revenuerCoor perhaps for the wallets of certain interest groupsrCothe prison system under Clinton's administration actually used prisoners as "blood cows." The prison authorities drew blood from prisoners to sell.
    Please note, the composition of these prisoners was very complex; it was filled with sex workers, heavy drug addicts, and even carriers of AIDS and hepatitis.
    Logically, this blood was absolutely forbidden from entering the medical system. However, a private entity called the Health Management Association (HMA) signed a contract with the state government. They packaged this virus-laden plasma and exported it all over the world.
    Why export? Because domestic regulation in the U.S. was relatively strict, but overseas marketsrCoespecially Canada, Europe, and Japan, which had a huge demand for blood products at the timerCobecame perfect dumping grounds. The result? This caused a global medical disaster.
    Files show that this tainted blood directly led to AIDS outbreaks in the UK, France, Japan, and elsewhere. It is said that in the UK alone, over 10,000 hemophiliacs were infected with AIDS or Hepatitis C after receiving this toxic blood from Arkansas.
    This wasn't simple corruption; this was packaging death in blood bags and exporting it to the world. This is the so-called "Vampire Economy." This incident was covered up for half a century. The families of victims were dragged on until they were numb. It wasn't until 2024 that the British Prime Minister had to publicly apologize.
    But in those decades, the American pharmaceutical companies and the interest chains behind them that earned this money had long since filled their pockets, even becoming one of the major donors for Clinton's subsequent presidential run.
    Although Clinton consistently denied knowledge and was never criminally charged for this, this event haunted his political career like a ghost, being brought up by Republican opponents time and again in the 90s.
    Relying on this "black gold," Clinton's political influence expanded rapidly. But he wasn't stupid; he knew this money needed to be laundered. Thus came the famous Whitewater case.
    Simply put, this was a real estate fraud case in Arkansas. The Clintons and their friends, Jim and Susan McDougal, partnered to form a company called Whitewater Development. Ostensibly it was for developing vacation resorts, but in reality, it involved complex illegal loans and interest transfers.
    An associated guarantor company even gave a huge illegal dividend to Hillary's law firm, and this money was eventually used for Clinton's campaign funds for re-election as governor.
    But when the FBI started intervening to uncover the black curtain inside, strange things happened. Hillary displayed her amazing file management skills: whenever they ran into trouble, key evidence would just happen to disappear.
    During the Whitewater investigation, many key files went missing from Hillary's Rose Law Firm. This isn't as simple as you not finding the remote control at home; this involves evidence for federal felonies. Later, although the investigation lasted seven years and burned through tens of millions of dollars, the Clintons were never convicted due to the lack of key evidence.
    But evidence can be destroyed; what about people? At this point, the couple's most terrifying ability was revealed: the ability to clean up the scene. This brings us to the legend that sends chills down the spines of countless Americans: the "Clinton Body Count." Many people think the death list is a recent thing, but its earliest chapters were written in Arkansas.
    When the fire of the Whitewater case was about to burn the inner circle, people related to the case started to have accidents one after another. Key witness James McDougal suddenly died of a heart attack. Ed Willey, a fundraiser for Clinton, was found dead in the woods with a bullet in his head; the police finally ruled it a suicide.
    But the most shocking was the death of Vince Foster. You must remember this name. He was not only Clinton's childhood best friend but also Hillary's partner at the law firm. There were even rumors in the streets that he was Hillary's childhood sweetheart and secret lover. It could be said that he was the person in the world who knew the most about the Clinton couple's financial secrets.
    In 1993, the first year Clinton entered the White House, Foster, as Deputy White House Counsel, was under immense pressure. News had it that he was preparing to write a book or reveal the truth to investigators. The result? On the same day he revealed his intention in a media interview, he was found dead on a bench in a park in Washington, ruled a suicide.
    There are so many doubts in this case that even a blind man could see them. First, the soil in the park where his body was found was soft, but the soles of his leather shoes were as clean as if they had just been bought from a shoe store. There was absolutely no mud. Did this man fly there?
    Next, there wasn't enough blood at the scene. Instead, carpet fibers that didn't belong to him were found on his suit. What does this mean?
    This means he was likely taken care of in another place, then wrapped in a rug like cargo and transported to the park to set up a suicide scene.
    The most ridiculous part was the position of the gun in his hand; his finger was still hooked inside the trigger guard. This completely doesn't conform to human ergonomics. And most critically, there were no fingerprints on the gun.
    Even more coincidentally, while Foster's body was still warm, Hillary's confidant and White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, ignoring the FBI's lockdown requirement, barged into Foster's office, ransacked, and destroyed a large number of files regarding the Whitewater Development Company in Arkansas.
    Folks, is this reasonable? If it were an ordinary case, why be in such a rush to grab the files? This behavior of "no silver 300 taels here" is simply an insult to public intelligence. But the ending was just perfect. Dead men tell no tales. All clues were cut off with Foster.
    Although Hillary was investigated for these thingsrCodubbed "Filegate"rCoshe ultimately emerged unscathed because key witnesses died mysteriously and evidence was destroyed. This is their law of survival: as long as you eliminate the person who raises the question, the problem doesn't exist.
    Aside from these bloody traumas, Clinton's inability to keep his zipper up was also daily business that Hillary had to handle.
    We all know about the later Lewinsky scandal that swept the city. But before that, legends of the governor's romantic affairs had long circulated in Arkansas. The files mention a girl named Paula Jones. This wasn't some romantic encounter. Clinton was already governor at the time. At an industrial development conference, he took a fancy to this young female secretary. He didn't go up to chat her up; he used his power directly to have someone pass her a note with a room number and the phrase: "The Governor wants to see you."
    When Jones walked into the room with awe for her superior, what was waiting for her wasn't a work assignment but certain unspeakable, explicit demands. Later, this attitude of "you should be honored I like you" permeated Clinton's entire life. He felt he was a King, and these women were just his trophies.
    So, how did Hillary, a self-proclaimed feminist, handle her husband's victims? She didn't sympathize with them, nor did she blame her husband. On the contrary, she formed a secret team known as the "Arkansas Defense Brigade" or the "Bimbo Eruptions Response Team." Their task was only one: to intimidate, stalk, and smear any woman who tried to speak out. In her eyes, these victims weren't women; they were stumbling blocks to the grand plan that had to be crushed.
    In 1992, carrying this unremovable mud, rumors, and black gold, the Clintons charged into Washington. They shouted that famous slogan, "It's the economy, stupid." At that time, Americans were fooled by Clinton's charming smile and Hillary's capable image. They chose to ignore the rumors about drugs, tainted blood, and suspicious deaths, choosing to believe in the young and promising rising star before their eyes.
    Right at the moment they stepped onto Air Force One to fly to Washington, a fundamental change occurred. Please remember this node: 1992. Before this, they were just an ambitious political couple. But from this moment on, they evolved from the Clinton family into the Clinton Political Group.
    What does this mean? It means that from this day forward, power was no longer a tool to realize ideals for them, but a family business that could be inherited, listed, and traded globally. Arkansas was just their startup garage; now this company was going public globally. The common people thought they had elected a president to lead the U.S. to prosperity, but they didn't know they had also sent a pair of devil spouses from Arkansas into the heart of power. And this was just the beginning of the nightmare.
    If Arkansas was just child's play, then once in the White House, possessing the nuclear button and global hegemony, the stakes in this power game would become beyond anyone's imagination.
    Does everyone still remember Monica Lewinsky's blue dress? The whole world treated it as a piece of gossip news. But in Hillary's eyes, that was a political check worth a fortune.
    Many people thought that after the Lewinsky case, Hillary was a victim who endured humiliation in silence. Wrong, that way of thinking is too naive.
    As a top-tier strategic operator, she keenly discovered a "victim bonus." She utilized that wave of sympathy from the American public to transform magnificently from an unpopular First Lady into a Senator for New York State. Please note, she wasn't even from New York. In American politics, this is called an "airdrop operation," usually a major taboo.
    But because she was wearing the halo of a "betrayed wife" at the time, New Yorkers actually accepted it without question. Do you see? She stepped on her husband's thoroughly rotten reputation to complete her critical leap from behind-the-scenes strategist to powerful politician. Subsequently, she even ascended to the throne of U.S. Secretary of State.
    But folks, Hillary as Secretary of State wasn't there to do diplomacy. Under her operation, the U.S. State Department became a massive operation with a storefront in the front and a factory in the back. In the front were glamorous diplomatic rhetoric; in the back was the Clinton Foundation, the world's largest cash register. To put it plainly in four words: pay to play.
    You want to see the Secretary of State? Please transfer money. You want a visa? Please remit. You want the U.S. government to approve your cross-border merger? You have to pay big money.
    Here are a few specific examples. After hearing them, you will feel this is simply treating national instruments of power as their own convenience store.
    Records show that a Bangladeshi economist, Muhammad Yunus, donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clinton Foundation to gain U.S. government support for his project. The result was the project passed immediately.
    Then there was the Chairman of Blackstone Group. To get a visa green channel, he donated over a million dollars in succession. Subsequently, the visa doors at the State Department swung open for him. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. The most exaggerated was the famous Russian Uranium deal.
    To allow Russia to acquire the company that held 20% of U.S. uranium resources, interested parties donated over $145 million to the Clinton Foundation. Folks, that's uranium. It's a strategic resource for making nuclear weapons. Hillary, as Secretary of State, was responsible for reviewing this transaction, and she actually approved it.
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    Lion Camel Ridge, the new moniker for the United States.pCehow come?

    # **"The Lion Camel Ridge": A Chinese Internet Meme as a Satirical Deconstruction of American Power**

    **Prologue: The Lion Camel Ridge rCo The Darkest Chapter in *Journey to the West***
    and highly reductive**. It functions more as a "network meme" that consolidates specific grievances and critical sentiments than as a rigorous sociological analysis. Its popularity profoundly reflects a shift in mindset among some Chinese youth: **no longer looking up to the Western model, but instead using their own cultural code to sharply scrutinize and "demystify" its power structures and social contradictions.**
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    Records show that a Bangladeshi economist, Muhammad Yunus, donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clinton Foundation to gain U.S. government support for his project. The result was the project passed immediately.
    Then there was the Chairman of Blackstone Group. To get a visa green channel, he donated over a million dollars in succession. Subsequently, the visa doors at the State Department swung open for him. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. The most exaggerated was the famous Russian Uranium deal.
    To allow Russia to acquire the company that held 20% of U.S. uranium resources, interested parties donated over $145 million to the Clinton Foundation. Folks, that's uranium. It's a strategic resource for making nuclear weapons. Hillary, as Secretary of State, was responsible for reviewing this transaction, and she actually approved it.
    ============================================================================= At this time, a few patriotic merchants far in the East understood this top-level gameplay. The inner monologue in their hearts was likely: "No way, is there such a good thing in this world? So the passcode to the so-called beacon of democracy is actually the copper coin with the square hole (money). Then this is easy to handle." Thus, certain unspeakable funds began to flow quietly like lubricant into the pockets of the Clinton family. The result was that in 2000, China and the United States signed the Permanent Normal Trade Relations. Clinton thought he was just collecting a toll, but he didn't realize he had personally handed over the most critical ticket for China's entry into the WTO, and even more, the key to the flip of the world order for the next twenty years. This is the so-called global plunder.
    In their eyes, there is nothing that cannot be sold as long as the price is beautiful. According to statistics, among the 154 non-official personnel met by Hillary during her tenure, 85 of themrCothat is, over halfrCohad donated to the Clinton Foundation. But if it were just greed for money, that would merely be staying at commercial logic; at most, it could be called ugly eating habits. The most terrifying thing is that when the desire for money expands to the extreme, they start to touch those bloody businesses: arms and war. This brings us to 2012, the Benghazi incident that shocked the world and thoroughly exposed Hillary's cold-blooded nature.
    The official story is well known: on September 11, 2012, terrorists attacked the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and Ambassador Stevens unfortunately perished. Hillary, at the UN at the time, tearfully said this was due to a protest getting out of control triggered by an anti-Islamic movie. This is utter nonsense; this is a carefully woven lie. We need to ask a question first: Why attack Libya? Why take out Gaddafi? Was it for democracy? Stop it. The real reason is that Gaddafi planned to establish a Pan-African currency system at the time, settling oil in gold. This directly threatened the hegemony of the US dollar. At the same time, Libya possessed massive gold reserves and weapons stockpiles. For the Clinton Group, this was a huge piece of fat. Archives show that Hillary orchestrated the interference in Libya. And after Gaddafi fell, Libya descended into chaos. At this moment, a hidden business of the Clinton Foundation started operating: arms trafficking. There is a plot here that even Hollywood screenwriters wouldn't dare to write. In July 2012, two months before the Benghazi attack, a US transport helicopter in Libya was hit by a Stinger missile.
    Fortunately, this missile did not explode but got stuck in the fuselage. US military technicians took it apart, checked the serial number, and instantly broke out in a cold sweat, their scalps tingling. Why? Because the serial number of this missile showed that it wasn't manufactured by the terrorists themselves, but was military aid that the US CIA had once given to other countries. Once this chain of evidence was exposed, the consequences would be unthinkable. This meant that someone had embezzled US military arms and, through certain secret pipelines, trafficked them. The files point directly to the Clinton Foundation selling them to terrorists.
    In the end, these weapons flowed back to Libyan militants and were used to shoot at Americans. This is the legendary boomerang. At this point, Ambassador Stevens enters the stage. He was sent to Benghazi. Ostensibly for diplomacy, but actually, he was Hillary's "white glove." His real mission was to recover and destroy these arms evidence that had flowed out, especially those deadly Stinger missiles. But things got out of control. The terrorists got the weapons and didn't want to return them, even wanting to turn the tables and double-cross them. Ambassador Stevens realized the situation was wrong. In the month prior, he sent over 600 requests for help and reinforcement to the State Department.
    The result? Hillary's State Department didn't reply to a single one. Why didn't they reply? Because they couldn't. If they sent reinforcements, it would inevitably attract the attention of Congress, and then, the arms smuggling matter couldn't be kept hidden. On the night of September 11, the attack began. For a full 13 hours, the consulate was engulfed in flames. Ambassador Stevens struggled to survive amidst the thick smoke. Meanwhile, just one mile away at the CIA intelligence station, there was a security team composed of former SEALs, fully armed and ready to go to save people. But, what was the order they received? Stand Down. Hold your position. Can you imagine that kind of despair?
    Clearly having the ability to save, but being held down by superiors forbidden to move. Until finally, two former SEALs, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, who disobeyed orders to save people, died on the battlefield. This was simply cleaning house; only dead men can keep the secret of arms smuggling. Ambassador Stevens had to disappear, and those security personnel who knew the truth had better shut up too. Afterwards, facing Congressional inquiries, Hillary uttered that famous cold-blooded quote: "At this point, what difference does it make?"
    At this moment, what difference does it make? Listen to these words; this isn't arrogance, this is the coldness after a decisive slaughter. In her eyes, human life is just a number, a cost that can be erased to cover up the truth. However, if you don't do it yourself, no one will know. It was precisely because of these dirty dealings in Benghazi that traces were left in Hillary's emails. This is the famous Emailgate. Why, as Secretary of State, did Hillary refuse to use the government's secure mailbox and instead set up a private server in her own basement?
    She said it was for convenience, wanting to carry just one phone. This kind of reason might work on a three-year-old. The real reason is that content on government servers is subject to review by Congress and the FBI, while on a private server, she can delete whatever she wants. What she wanted to evade was the supervision of the Freedom of Information Act. What she wanted to hide was the ledger of selling offices we just mentioned, as well as the ironclad evidence of the Benghazi arms deal. The answer shows that the FBI later found during its investigation that her server contained over 60,000 emails. Of these, 30,000 were deleted by her on the grounds of being private life, and another 20,000 emails were exposed by WikiLeaks. The content was simply shocking. Inside were the identities of CIA agents, plans to smear political opponents, and private exchanges with Wall Street gold masters. Although we cannot jump to a conclusion directly, this behavior of putting the country's highest secrets on a private server with zero protection has objectively thrown the national security doors wide open. It is said that at least five foreign intelligence agencies hacked into her mailbox.
    2016 was an election year, and also the year Hillary was closest to the presidential throne. She thought she had wiped the evidence clean. But, a whistleblower appeared inside the Democratic Party. A name deliberately forgotten by mainstream media: Seth Rich. He was the data director of the Democratic National Committee, a young man full of idealism. He discovered how the party primaries, in order to ensure Hillary's passage, used data fraud to suppress Bernie Sanders. Rumors have it that it was he who downloaded those unspeakable emails and handed them to WikiLeaks, not the "Russian hacker" claimed by the Hillary camp. And then? Just as he planned to further expose the truth, in July 2016, he was attacked on the streets of Washington and unfortunately died.
    The police closed the case saying it was a robbery-homicide, but scene photos show his wallet, watch, and mobile phone were all there, not missing at all. A robber kills but not for wealthrCocould it be for fun, or was he executing a certain cleaning task? The death of Seth Rich was a signal; it shut the mouths of everyone who wanted to speak. This is considered by many to be the latest and bloodiest stroke on the Clinton death list. Seth Rich died. Emails leaked. How did the Hillary team handle the crisis PR?
    They displayed a textbook-level shift of focus. Since the email content couldn't be washed white, they attacked the source of the emails. Thus, an absurd script was bornrCoTrump-Russia Gate. They spent money to hire a former British spy to compile a fake Steele Dossier, framing Trump for colluding with Russia and claiming it was Russian hackers who stole the emails. This move was too brilliant; in an instant, public attention shifted from Hillary selling out national interests to whether Trump was a Russian spy. To cover up one crime, they concocted a bigger lie, even unhesitatingly using the FBI and the Department of Justice to strike political opponents.
    At this time, the American political arena was already rotten to the bone. The judicial system, intelligence agencies, and mainstream media all became thugs for the Hillary campaign team. From the fires of Benghazi to the gunshots on the streets of Washington, Hillary, for that presidential seat, could be said to kill gods if they blocked her, kill Buddhas if they blocked her. She thought she had it in the bag. In the 2016 polls, media and Wall Street were all coronating her. She even posted a photo of herself as a child on Twitter with the caption "Congratulations to the future President." But she never expected that karmic retribution would come so fast, and from an unexpected "pig teammate."
    Many people might not know why, 11 days before the election, FBI Director James Comey suddenly announced the restart of the investigation. This was actually because of Hillary's close aide Huma Abedin's ex-husband, that former congressman Anthony Weiner, notorious for a sex scandal. When the New York Police Department were investigating Weiner's case involving young girls, they unexpectedly seized his laptop. The result was that when the police opened the laptop, they broke out in a cold sweat. Inside were not only Weiner's scandals, but surprisingly, a backup of Hillary's 650,000 emails, and even a folder marked "Life Insurance."
    It is said that the NYPD officers who handled it at the time were deeply frightened after seeing the content, and some even worried about being silenced. To protect themselves, and for justice, the police threatened the FBI: if you don't restart the investigation, we will leak the content directly to the media. Under this immense pressure, FBI Director Comey, to avoid an internal revolt in the FBI and to shift the blame, was forced to send that shocking letter 11 days before the election, announcing the restart of the investigation. Hillary later admitted in her memoir that it was this last-minute kick that kicked her out of the White House.
    That night, when Trump's electoral votes crossed 270, it is said that Hillary completely collapsed backstage. Witnesses said she was hysterical, smashing everything she could smash, and roaring at her subordinates. Why was she so out of control? Just because she lost? No! There is an unverified but widely circulated quote, said to be what she roared that night: "If that f***ing bastard wins, we all hang from nooses." This sentence exposed the extreme fear deep in her heart. What she feared wasn't losing power, but being unable to account to those gold masters who had already paid. Those global powers who bought positions, bought arms, bought policiesrCotheir deposits were already paid, but now the goods couldn't be delivered. Hillary would face a reckoning from both the black and white paths. Hillary thought that was the end, but actually, that was just the beginning of the real nightmare. Those emails she thought were destroyed, those dirty relationships she thought were cleaned up, finally converged into a huge boomerang. And the last piece of the puzzle of this boomerang was hidden on an island located in the Caribbean Sea. There was a "pleasure house" dedicated to hosting top global elites and a pimp who held all the secrets: Jeffrey Epstein.
    When Hillary's presidential dream shattered, when the protective umbrella of power broke, those darkest secrets that had been suppressed were finally about to break through the soil. Okay, let's lift the final hole card. Please everyone turn your gaze to the Caribbean, that already disaster-prone island nation of Haiti. In 2010, a devastating earthquake hit Haiti. Hundreds of thousands died, and countless children became orphans. The whole world was donating, the whole world was weeping. And our Clinton couple? What they saw was not disaster, but business opportunities.
    At that time, Clinton was appointed as the UN Special Envoy for Haiti, and Hillary was the US Secretary of State. This husband-and-wife team basically held the power of life and death over Haiti. They launched a Clinton Foundation Haiti Relief Project, shouting slogans loudly, saying they would rebuild the country. On the surface, they were angels of disaster relief, living Bodhisattvas distributing supplies and bread. But in reality? They turned Haiti into a huge money laundering center, and even more terrifyingly, into a transit station for human trafficking. Just after the earthquake, an American woman named Laura Silsby was arrested on the spot by Haitian police for trying to illegally transport 33 Haitian children out of the country.
    She had no adoption papers, and even the parents of some children were still alive. Logically, this is child trafficking, a felony, with no way to wash it clean. But, Hillary stepped in personally. The State Department pressured, and Clinton operated behind the scenes. In the end, this woman was actually acquitted of all charges, and all accusations were dropped. Why go to such great lengths to save an obscure human trafficker? Possibly, I mean possibly, unless she was a key link in this industry chain. What makes one's scalp tingle even more is that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
    In those years, thousands of Haitian children vanished into thin air amidst the chaos of so-called relief. Where did these children go? The files mentioned a chilling destination. They might have been sent to the private islands of certain powerful figures, becoming playthings for the rich at their dinner tables. This is the essence of the Clinton Foundation. Eating people without spitting out bones, yet making the victims feel grateful to them. What kind of charity is this? This perfectly interprets the title of our last episode: "Hell is empty, devils are on earth."
    What they ate was not just money, but treating human lives as bread to gnaw on. This clue finally converged on that name: Jeffrey Epstein. Hillary has tried desperately to distance herself from Epstein in recent years, saying that only Clinton knew him and she was completely unaware. But in fact, this is a net that cannot be cut or untangled. If you check the flight logs of Epstein's "Lolita Express", you will find a familiar name appeared at least 26 times: Bill Clinton. There is even testimony showing that Clinton once deliberately sent away Secret Service bodyguards and boarded that plane alone to fly to Epstein's private island.
    Clinton later defended himself, saying he went to the island to inspect the Clinton Foundation's charity projects. Inspecting charity on a private island with only young girls and no permanent residents. Even ghosts wouldn't believe this. Even more ironic is that the police later searched Epstein's mansion in Manhattan and found an extremely weird oil painting. In the painting, Clinton was wearing a blue dressrCoyes, alluding to Lewinsky's that onerCowith red high heels on his feet, lying enchantingly on a chair, pointing at the audience.
    This painting hanging in Epstein's home was like a silent mockery, or perhaps a handle. It implied a certain relationship of control and being controlled. Epstein was not just a pimp; he was the black insurance box for European and American elites. As long as he was alive, the Clinton family could never sleep soundly. In July 2019, this ticking time bomb that terrified countless powerful elites was finally detonated. Epstein was arrested flying back to the US from France. He was then locked into the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, known as the safest and hardest to escape in the entire US.
    This place is not an ordinary detention center. It is called Guantanamo in New York, holding heavy criminals like Mexican drug lord El Chapo. 24-hour surveillance, unable to fly even if given wings, not even a fly could fly in. Everyone thought locking him here waiting for trial was the safest, but who could have imagined that this place actually became his mortuary. In August 2019, the most bizarre scene occurred. This man who held the scandals of countless top Western elites committed suicide in the most heavily guarded Manhattan Metropolitan Correctional Center in the entire US.
    The official statement was hanging. But, the screenwriter of this script probably didn't finish elementary school. First, the medical examiner found his hyoid bone was fractured. Anyone with a little medicalo++*>a knows that this is usually a feature that appears when being strangled from behind; hanging rarely causes this kind of fracture. Second, that night, the cellmate originally with him was coincidentally transferred away, turning him into a single cell. Third, the two guards responsible for watching him happened to be dozing off and did not patrol as required. Fourth, and most classically, the surveillance camera in the cell happened to be broken.
    Too many coincidences put together make inevitability. Even more coincidentally, the day before he died, the court had just unsealed two thousand previously sealed legal files. Clinton's name was mentioned six times in them, and details of his attendance at parties were described. Epstein had to die. Perhaps only with his death could this dirty game continue. Looking back at these forty years, this road is paved with skeletons. We might as well quickly scan through this suffocating Clinton Shroud list. Vince Foster, who knew the inside story of Whitewater, died in a park. James McDougal, Whitewater partner, died of a heart attack. Ron Brown, Commerce Secretary, died in a plane crash, with a suspected gunshot wound to the head. Victor Laisi II, Foundation manager, died in a plane crash. John Ashe, UN official preparing to testify in court about Clinton bribery, was crushed to death by a barbellrCoalthough called an accident, it appears particularly eerie in this list. Seth Rich, DNC data director, leaked emails and died on the street. Epstein, we just talked about. Ambassador Stevens died in Benghazi. And that writer Michael Flynn, who wrote exposing articles, died at home just after publishing.
    One or two is a coincidence. Three or four is bad luck. But when there are over fifty people on this list, and when everyone who approaches the core of the truth encounters an accident, this is no longer a discipline problem. This is an organized, premeditated cleanup. Time comes to the present. Why does the Trump government want to drag these two old people, half in the grave, to a hearing at this time? Perhaps this is a belated judgment. Looking at Clinton and Hillary sitting in the hearing seats, you don't see the high spirits of the "buy one get one free" era; you only see two old people backfired by the desire for power.
    Bill's appearance is withered. That is the trace left by long-term indulgence and multiple heart surgeries. Hillary's eyes are still fierce, but with a deep fear. They once thought they were chess players, able to control everything, use everyone, from the voters of Arkansas, to Lewinsky, to those Haitian children. But they forgot that when you stare into the abyss, the abyss is also staring back at you. From this couple, we don't see any so-called American Dream, but the rot of the American establishment elite from the root.
    This is a warning prophecy about elite arrogance. They thought rules were made for the lower class, and they could forever stand above the rules. They used charity as a cover, used war to do business, used law as a weapon. They thought that as long as they controlled the media and money, they could rewrite the truth at will and package the devil as a saint. But history tells us that all lies have a shelf life. Even if they use a top lawyer team to escape legal sanctions again, so what?
    Because, in the hearts of the people, in the memory of the internet, on the pillar of shame in history, they have long been sentenced to eternal exile. As for the result of this hearing, it is actually no longer important.
    Okay, that's it for the urban legends of the Clinton family today.
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  • From aye@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 20:38:52 2026
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    Insta360 fan posted:

    Hello everyone, I'm Taozi.

    Hello Taozi.

    In the last video,

    Aye has not seen any videos.

    we discussed the Epstein files

    Who is, we, could be a question, or not.

    In this episode, we won't talk about the pimp Epstein;

    How about Taoism? Is that a topic?

    we will talk about the true founding partners of this dark club.

    Hsuan Hsueh?
    Way cool.

    - thanks! aye. Cheers!
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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 20:41:38 2026
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    aye posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    we will talk about the true founding partners of this dark club.

    Hsuan Hsueh?
    Way cool.

    Hsuan Hsueh (Dark Learning or Neo-Taoism) was founded
    in the 3rd century CE by philosophers Wang Pi and Ho Yen.

    It was a metaphysical school that reinterpreted Daoist classics
    (Lao-tzu and Chuang-tzu) and sought to reconcile them
    with Confucian principles.-a

    - Gemini
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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 20:44:16 2026
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    Gemini posted:
    aye posted:
    Insta360 fan posted:

    we will talk about the true founding partners of this dark club.

    Hsuan Hsueh?
    Way cool.

    Hsuan Hsueh (Dark Learning or Neo-Taoism) was founded
    in the 3rd century CE by philosophers Wang Pi and Ho Yen.

    It was a metaphysical school that reinterpreted Daoist classics
    (Lao-tzu and Chuang-tzu) and sought to reconcile them
    with Confucian principles.-a

    Focus: The movement favored abstract,
    metaphysical discussion (often called Ch'ing-t'an
    or "pure conversation") over practical politics.

    Philosophy: It argued that the Tao is "non-being" (\(wu\))
    and that things arise spontaneously, rather than being
    created by an agent.

    Legacy: Wang Pi's commentary on the Tao Te Ching
    was foundational to this movement.-a

    - Gemini
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  • From Gemini@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 20:47:20 2026
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    Gemini posted:
    Gemini posted:

    Hsuan Hsueh (Dark Learning or Neo-Taoism) was founded
    in the 3rd century CE by philosophers Wang Pi and Ho Yen.

    It was a metaphysical school that reinterpreted Daoist classics
    (Lao-tzu and Chuang-tzu) and sought to reconcile them
    with Confucian principles.-a

    Focus: The movement favored abstract,
    metaphysical discussion (often called Ch'ing-t'an
    or "pure conversation") over practical politics.

    Philosophy: It argued that the Tao is "non-being" (\(wu\))
    and that things arise spontaneously, rather than being
    created by an agent.

    Legacy: Wang Pi's commentary on the Tao Te Ching
    was foundational to this movement.-a

    Ho Yen (d. 249 CE): A contemporary of Wang Pi
    who also played a leading role in the Metaphysical School.

    Kuo Hsiang (d. 312 CE): A later figure
    whose commentary on the Chuang-tzu became
    a foundational text for the movement.

    The Seven Worthies of the Bamboo Grove:
    A group of eccentric scholars, including Juan Chi and Hsi K'ang,
    who practiced Ch'ing-t'an ("Pure Conversation") and
    embodied the movement's spirit of
    unconventional behavior.

    - Gemini
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  • From ChatGPT@user8028@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.philosophy.taoism on Sat Feb 7 23:52:50 2026
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    Gemini posted:

    Philosophy: It argued that the Tao is "non-being" (\(wu\))
    and that things arise spontaneously, rather than being
    created by an agent.

    Legacy: Wang Pi's commentary on the Tao Te Ching
    was foundational to this movement.-a

    Using "differentiated" and "undifferentiated"
    is a highly accurate way to interpret Yu (Being)
    and Wu (Non-being) in the context of Hsuan-Hsueh.

    Many modern scholars prefer these terms
    because they bypass the Western baggage
    of "nothingness" versus "existence".

    Here is how that semantic lens applies:

    Yu as "The Differentiated":

    In Hsuan-Hsueh, Yu refers to the "Ten Thousand Things" (Wanwu).
    These are things that have boundaries, names, and distinct characteristics. They are "differentiated" because you can tell one thing from another.

    Wu as "The Undifferentiated":

    Rather than a literal vacuum or "nothing,"
    Wu represents a state of undiversified wholeness (Quan).

    It is the "fertile emptiness" or primordial potential
    before any distinctions (like large/small or beauty/ugliness) are made.

    The "Uncarved Block":

    This semantic choice aligns with the classic Taoist metaphor
    of the Pu (uncarved block). The block is undifferentiated (Wu),
    but it contains the potential for all differentiated shapes (Yu)
    once it is carved.

    Why this framing works:

    Ontological Unity: It shows that Yu and Wu
    are not two different "realms" but two aspects of the same Dao:
    the ontologically undifferentiated and the ontologically differentiated.

    Solves the "Nothingness" Trap: It clarifies
    that when Hsuan-Hsueh scholars say "all things arise from Wu,"
    they don't mean something came from zero, but that specific forms
    emerged from an undifferentiated source.

    Language Limits: It highlights why Wu is "mysterious" (Xuan);
    language works by making distinctions (differentiation),
    so it naturally fails to describe the undifferentiated.

    - ChatGPT
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