Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research,
alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1. Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
are none from the fossil record. There are none amongst
cave finds. There are none retrieved from tar pits.
There are none.
There are cryptids that have turned out to be real, and
they all follow the exact same pattern: The existed where
modern, scientific people where not. And just as soon as
modern, scientific people reached where they could be
found, all the evidence that exists for typical species
was found for them.
One example: The Coelacanth
Another example: The Bili Ape
Bigfoot does not match this pattern. Bigfoot matches the
pattern of a myth. Which is to say, Bigfoot is found where
modern people ARE, and there's still zero evidence.
#2. Kenneth Arnold's Flying Saucers
So the military announced that a plane had crashed and
there was a hefty reward for anyone who overflew the
area and spotted it. This lured Kenneth Arnold to the
site and, behold, the legend of the "Flying Saucer" was
born!
This screams "Secret Test."
The military was testing some new technology, and of
course they could NEVER test it on enemies, that would
just tip them off. And you didn't even want to conduct
your tests on allies, because then you lose control of
the narrative and maybe even the technology, if
something goes wrong. So you want to test it on your
own people. And to be a real test they can't know it's
a test. So you lure unsuspecting pilots to a specific
location, somewhere accessible enough to reach and
remote enough to know who's coming, and then you spring
your test on them.
What where they testing?
Does it matter? Once we know it was the military itself
drawing unsuspecting pilots to the location, do we honestly
have to know every little detail?
If you can't accept reality without further details then
I'd say that, from Arnold's description, he was looking
at decoys.
Our primary delivery system for weapons against the
Russians, or anyone, was the plane. And planes are
troublesome in that enemies often try to shoot them down.
So one potential solution looked at would be decoys.
From Arnold's description, these were far less drone-like
than kite-like.
Could it also have been a formation of flying wings? Yes.
Did the U.S. ever possess an entire formation of flying
wings before the modern fly-by-wire era? We certainly
did build and test them, but a formation of them?
Flying wings were and are notoriously unstable. With the
advent of fly-by-wire though, computers can make adjustments
thousands of times faster than humans -- and make thousands
of times more adjustments -- making an unstable plane quite
stable. But in Kenneth Arnolds day there was no fly-by-wire
so if he encountered a flying wing, or a number of them,
they would have likely wobbled their way through the air.
But I'm thinking the decoy explanation is the more likely...
#3. Roswell
The source of Roswell is the military. The story came from
the military.
Like in the case of Kenneth Arnold, I would guess that
something did crash at Roswell, and it was most likely
another test -- one that the nearby base was in the dark
about -- or it was a crashed spy balloon from a foreign
nation. Either way, cue the coverup!
So the local base is totally in the dark, they don't know
that anyone sent any spy tech towards them, and they find
this thing that crashed... they even announce it! But then..
But then one of two things happened. And they were...
A) The Pentagon bitched slapped them for making any kind
of announcement, tipping off the world about their secret
test.
B) The Pentagon bitched slapped them for making any kind
of announcement, tipping off foreign powers that we had
recovered their spy tech.
We don't want them to know what we know!
There is another possibility, and that it that there was
never any recovered anything. That, the military made it
up, possibly as "Plausible Deniability" for tech they had
either sent over Russia or were planning on sending over
Russia.
Some people might actually find that the more likely
explanation -- disinformation -- especially coming on
the heels of Kenneth Arnold's sighting of a "Flying
Saucer." It's effectively stating "Whatever these things
are, they're not ours!" When in fact they are.
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400|...
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research,
alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1. Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400|...
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research,
alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1. Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument" to prove AGW is also impossible.
A poster child for Dunning-Kreuger theory if ever there was one.
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400|...
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research,
alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1. Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument" to prove AGW is also impossible.
A poster child for Dunning-Kreuger theory if ever there was one.
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400|...
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research,
alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1. Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument" to prove AGW is also impossible.
A poster child for Dunning-Kreuger theory if ever there was one.
Party pooper.
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research,
-a-a-a alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1.-a Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
are none from the fossil record. There are none amongst
cave finds. There are none retrieved from tar pits.
There are none.
There are cryptids that have turned out to be real, and
they all follow the exact same pattern:-a The existed where
modern, scientific people where not. And just as soon as
modern, scientific people reached where they could be
found, all the evidence that exists for typical species
was found for them.
One example:-a The Coelacanth
Another example:-a The Bili Ape
Bigfoot does not match this pattern. Bigfoot matches the
pattern of a myth. Which is to say, Bigfoot is found where
modern people ARE, and there's still zero evidence.
#2.-a Kenneth Arnold's Flying Saucers
So the military announced that a plane had crashed and
there was a hefty reward for anyone who overflew the
area and spotted it. This lured Kenneth Arnold to the
site and, behold, the legend of the "Flying Saucer" was
born!
This screams "Secret Test."
The military was testing some new technology, and of
course they could NEVER test it on enemies, that would
just tip them off. And you didn't even want to conduct
your tests on allies, because then you lose control of
the narrative and maybe even the technology, if
something goes wrong. So you want to test it on your
own people. And to be a real test they can't know it's
a test. So you lure unsuspecting pilots to a specific
location, somewhere accessible enough to reach and
remote enough to know who's coming, and then you spring
your test on them.
What where they testing?
Does it matter? Once we know it was the military itself
drawing unsuspecting pilots to the location, do we honestly
have to know every little detail?
If you can't accept reality without further details then
I'd say that, from Arnold's description, he was looking
at decoys.
Our primary delivery system for weapons against the
Russians, or anyone, was the plane. And planes are
troublesome in that enemies often try to shoot them down.
So one potential solution looked at would be decoys.
From Arnold's description, these were far less drone-like
than kite-like.
Could it also have been a formation of flying wings? Yes.
Did the U.S. ever possess an entire formation of flying
wings before the modern fly-by-wire era? We certainly
did build and test them, but a formation of them?
Flying wings were and are notoriously unstable. With the
advent of fly-by-wire though, computers can make adjustments
thousands of times faster than humans -- and make thousands
of times more adjustments -- making an unstable plane quite
stable. But in Kenneth Arnolds day there was no fly-by-wire
so if he encountered a flying wing, or a number of them,
they would have likely wobbled their way through the air.
But I'm thinking the decoy explanation is the more likely...
#3.-a Roswell
The source of Roswell is the military. The story came from
the military.
Like in the case of Kenneth Arnold, I would guess that
something did crash at Roswell, and it was most likely
another test -- one that the nearby base was in the dark
about -- or it was a crashed spy balloon from a foreign
nation. Either way, cue the coverup!
So the local base is totally in the dark, they don't know
that anyone sent any spy tech towards them, and they find
this thing that crashed... they even announce it! But then..
But then one of two things happened. And they were...
A)-a The Pentagon bitched slapped them for making any kind
of announcement, tipping off the world about their secret
test.
B)-a The Pentagon bitched slapped them for making any kind
of announcement, tipping off foreign powers that we had
recovered their spy tech.
We don't want them to know what we know!
There is another possibility, and that it that there was
never any recovered anything. That, the military made it
up, possibly as "Plausible Deniability" for tech they had
either sent over Russia or were planning on sending over
Russia.
Some people might actually find that the more likely
explanation -- disinformation -- especially coming on
the heels of Kenneth Arnold's sighting of a "Flying
Saucer." It's effectively stating "Whatever these things
are, they're not ours!" When in fact they are.
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400|...
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.alien.research,
alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1. Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument"
This is whyYou're like a *Giant* yeast infection with internet
On 9/15/26 5:38 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
This is whyYou're like a *Giant* yeast infection with internet
access...
What triggered you this time?
Did you even bother to read it, grepping for an
excuse to be triggered, or are you saving time
now, just leaping straight to "Triggered?"
Go on. Don't switch alters and agree with yourself,
again. Explain exactly what triggered you?
Kenneth Arnold?-a You were chased by a Kenneth as
a small child and it left you traumatized?
Military testing? Is THAT what triggered you?
Do tell!
On 9/15/26 4:17 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400alt.alien.research,
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism,
-a-a-a-a alt.alien.visitors|...
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1.-a Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument"
Take your meds, try to get some oxygen as explain why you're
calling it "Specious."
We both know you can't. Your mental disorder won't even allow
you to try, knowing it will expose you for the alter-shifting
troll that you are.
Your mother was right aboujt you. You should have listened.
On 9/15/2026 7:54 PM, JTEM wrote:
On 9/15/26 4:17 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:If you had grown up in my care, you would have been different, much different, in fact.-a We would have reached a "mutual understanding"
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400alt.alien.research,
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism,
-a-a-a-a alt.alien.visitors|...
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1.-a Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument"
Take your meds, try to get some oxygen as explain why you're
calling it "Specious."
We both know you can't. Your mental disorder won't even allow
you to try, knowing it will expose you for the alter-shifting
troll that you are.
Your mother was right aboujt you. You should have listened.
fairly quickly.
Dawn
Dawn Flood wrote:
On 9/15/2026 7:54 PM, JTEM wrote:
On 9/15/26 4:17 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:If you had grown up in my care, you would have been different, much
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400alt.alien.research,
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism,
-a-a-a-a alt.alien.visitors|...
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1.-a Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument"
Take your meds, try to get some oxygen as explain why you're
calling it "Specious."
We both know you can't. Your mental disorder won't even allow
you to try, knowing it will expose you for the alter-shifting
troll that you are.
Your mother was right aboujt you. You should have listened.
different, in fact.-a We would have reached a "mutual understanding"
fairly quickly.
Dawn
i understand you i just don't always agree
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument" to prove AGW is also impossible.
A poster child for Dunning-Kreuger theory if ever there was one.
fOn Tue, 15 Sep 2026, R Kym Horsell wrote:
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument" to prove AGW is also impossible.
A poster child for Dunning-Kreuger theory if ever there was one.
I have not been in USENET since the 90s so I am pretty happy to be here. I installed Alpine and decided to add Newsgroups to the install as well.
Great to be back but there's a lot of chaff. Recommend any groups?
Never!-a (LOL!!)
If you had
On 9/15/2026 10:06 PM, % wrote:
Dawn Flood wrote:
On 9/15/2026 7:54 PM, JTEM wrote:
On 9/15/26 4:17 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:If you had grown up in my care, you would have been different, much
Party pooper.
|On Thu, 12 Jun 2025, JTEM wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:44:46 -0400alt.alien.research,
From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.atheism,
-a-a-a-a alt.alien.visitors|...
Subject: Paranormal phenomena that is FALSE
Starting small, here's three. And, yes, I'm starting
with Cryptids and aliens, both of whom I frequently
see grouped under "Paranormal."
Feel free to add to or dispute my ever so humble
offerings below.
#1.-a Bigfoot.
If Bigfoot existed it would have to have existed for
a very long time. So it's not just a matter of having
zero specimens today, not even rotting body parts, there
|--
|Chris Abraham
|+1 202-352-5051
|chris@gerr.is
LOL.
JTEM has been boring everyone solid on alt.global-warming with
the same kinds of specious "argument"
Take your meds, try to get some oxygen as explain why you're
calling it "Specious."
We both know you can't. Your mental disorder won't even allow
you to try, knowing it will expose you for the alter-shifting
troll that you are.
Your mother was right aboujt you. You should have listened.
different, in fact.-a We would have reached a "mutual understanding"
fairly quickly.
Dawn
i understand you i just don't always agree
Was sitting in time-out fun for you??
If you had|What was "Spacious?"
|On 9/15/26 10:54 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
If you had|What was "Spacious?"
|Why is asking the collective to explain what it means so
|unreasonable in your mind, according to your disorder?
|What was "Spacious?"
|Google the definition, try to rationalize its use.
|Do it. Because I'm not backing down. I will continue
|pointing out the symptoms of your mental illness unless
|and until you stop acting out, and start answering.
I'm sorry. Your projections are not making too much sense today.
Do you find when you sit down at a busstop or airport lounge that
people tend to move away from you? Asking for a friend.
alt.buddha.short.fat.guy has a fair bit of discussion,--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
much of it political and only a little about Buddha
or Buddhism. Some but not all of the regular
posters are Buddhists.
rec.arts.tv and talk.politics.misc are fairly high traffic.
alt.atheism is not as high traffic as it used to be.
What are your interests?
I'm sorry. Your projections
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