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I was interested in this clip in my in-box some days back:

Demonic UFO connection explained: Expert analyses 'poltergeist-type activity' in alien sightings
International Business Times UK on MSN.com, 7 Sep 2026 23:33
University of North Carolina Wilmington religious studies professor Diana Pasulka has described a possible demonic UFO ...


A link between some haunting-type phenomena and ufos was flagged by my
various AI programs some time back and I posted something to a couple
of the ufo groups then.

But to expand on the apparent link I'll post some actual "hard data" here (insofar as paranormal research involves numbers :) that shows some
kinds of links between different things that suggest many paranormal
reports are "the same thing" as suspected by several researchers
I've followed on the WWW thingy over the years.

Some time back -- after my "big sighting" during the early pandemic
years -- I decided to turn my data science skills (my old page was kaggle.com/kymhorsell1; I think it's kinda dead now google bought
the company out) to something really difficult. Up to that point
the spookiest thing I'd done to make business clients happy was predict
ahead of time when a regular customer would come to the business and what
they would ask. Yes. They (companies) do that. They all do that.

After an initial steep learning curve things started to come into
focus. Not only did I make some headway on my initial "problem",
diving down many of the rabbit holes along the way suggested many
things -- many seemingly diverse things -- were linked. And it all
started with the movement of various planets.

It's been long appreciated that "funny things in the sky" seemed to be
more commonly reported in years when Mars was closer to Earth than
years when it was further away. This never seemed to approach
"critical mass" or "statistical significance" as number geeks would
say. But it was something to keep in mind.

My programs generally go off and do their own thing but occasionally
read my "want list" and kinda head vaguely in that direction some of
the time. They followed the suggestion and found many planets -- esp
the outer ones -- link up with things flying in the sky as well as
many other things that just go bump in the night. In particular they
found a strong link with poltergeist reports.

But the data is fairly thin. That's part of the problem with these
areas of research (I complain :). People are very interested in all
the juicy details of these things, but a data scientist want numbers
to feed to their programs. And one of the best kinds of numbers is
date/time. If you know WHEN something odd happened you can churn
through every other dataset that's organised by time and see which
ones seem to match up. Enough of this kind of thing and you have
solid evidence that SOMETHING is going on.

And when you find that different odd things have the same statistical
patterns in them you know you really have something interesting.

So here are some numbers. The first set is from an English website
following all kinds of paranormal stuff. Many of the poltergeist
reports it has on file are undated or vaguely dated -- e.g. "summer of
some year ending in 5 I think". Shudder! But from its list the
following come up knowing which exact day of the year they happened:


Date #reports (poltergeist activity)
1972.981 2
1981.975 1
2008.831 1
2010.137 1
2010.617 1
2011.199 2
2013.358 1
2016.604 1

This doesn't look too promising. But data science to the rescue. Small
counts like this are no great to analyse statistically. A better way
to go is to measure the gaps BETWEEN the events because that looks a
lot more "random", and random in the right kind of way. One version
of that is to translate the counts into a series of estimates of the rate-per-year on a given day. And you can do that by taking 3 of the
lines above and calculating a rough "total" then divide this by the
time between the first and last line.

You then get a "rates" data like:


Date Rate of reports (per year)
estimated for each date
1972.981 0.277963
1981.975 0.069735
2008.831 0.0710177
2010.137 1.11982
2010.617 2.35405
2011.199 1.09449
2013.358 0.462535
2016.604 0.462107

OK. Better! And another thing you can do with rates is interpolate
between them. If you had rate R1 on date d1, and rate R2 on date d2,
you can "estimate" (fancy way to say "guess") that on date (d1+d2)/2
the rate was around (R1+R2)/2.

You fill those in you get this:

1972.981 0.277963
1977.478 0.186487
1981.975 0.069735
1995.402 0.0758357
2008.831 0.0710177
2009.484 0.58754
2010.137 1.11982
2010.377 1.87311
2010.617 2.35405
2010.907 1.75416
2011.199 1.09449
2012.279 0.713021
2013.358 0.462535
2014.981 0.441996
2016.604 0.462107

And now you can run this through a series of tests to see if anything
you know about goes up and down in so close parallel it statistically
could not easily happen just by luck. E.g. we might look for patterns
that are 90% unlikely by chance.

And if we do that with a list of suspect variables I happen to have
laying around we get this:

Suspect R2 in regr against
poltergeist rates (as above)
deltasaturn 0.27001446
deltapluto 0.34974195
deltauranus 0.59183748
ufo2020 0.62753381
ufoCircle2020 0.73924406
ufoLight2020 0.79908821

Other items in the list didn't pan out. This is a kind of shortlist of
things we might zero in on with better tests and more data. Other
planets tested didn't jive. Other types of ufos tested didn't jive.

So the LEAST impressive test says the distance between earth and
Saturn ("delta" is the name NASA/JPL uses) explains 27% of the
poltergeist rate data series. More than 1/4. Pretty interesting. And
the stats tests show that could not happen by chance more than 1 time
in 20 (i.e. its "confidence" value in the regr is 95%).

And at the other end of the scale are "Light" type UFOs. Generally
the number of light objects seen goes up to a max around 6am and
especially 6pm local time. These times --as it turns out -- have a
particular meaning because of what is directly above you at those
times. At dusk up == where they Earth was in the past few days
(i.e. something followed us); at dawn up == where the Earth is heading
(i.e. something lay in wait for the Earth to catch up to them).

As it turns out the distance to the same planets also predict the
number of UFO sightings. It seems they are the commonality and suggest
all that banging on about what planets were doing being responsible
for what was going to happen might actually have a basis in scientific
fact. Who knew? But my mother would be so proud. :)

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R Kym Horsell wrote:

I was interested in this clip in my in-box some days back:

Demonic UFO connection explained: Expert analyses 'poltergeist-type activity' in alien sightings
International Business Times UK on MSN.com, 7 Sep 2026 23:33
University of North Carolina Wilmington religious studies professor Diana Pasulka has described a possible demonic UFO ...

As I've pointed out *Many* times, and none of your alters are
capable of registering, there a lot of very different things
described & labelled "Ghosts."

Pretending there really are such things as UFOs & Demons, you've
just added further descriptions/distinction on what is supposed
to the same goddamn thing...

Irrelevant though. If you really want to explore such matters
then Step-1 is establishing if the experiences/observations
are real, and I probably need to add: External.
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