Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within- four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
JTEM wrote:
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
is there any evidence for that claim? i am very open to aliens
living side by side with humans.
jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
JTEM wrote:
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
is there any evidence for that claim? i am very open to aliens
living side by side with humans.
Avi Loeb discovered that selling spaceship woowoo to credulous
believers pays better than being an astronomer.
That's all the proof you need!
On 4/13/2026 7:34 AM, JTEM wrote:
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-
four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
And, your point is??-a I predict that someone, anyone, will win some
Lottery in the next 5 years!
JTEM wrote:
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-
four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
is there any evidence for that claim? i am very open to aliens living
side by side with humans.
Avi Loeb discovered that selling spaceship woowoo to credulous
believers pays better than being an astronomer.
he's the harvard professor? i saw him first on the lex podcast. is he actually selling alien scrap? lol!
Samuel Spade wrote:
jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
JTEM wrote:
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
is there any evidence for that claim? i am very open to aliens
living side by side with humans.
Avi Loeb discovered that selling spaceship woowoo to credulous
believers pays better than being an astronomer.
That's all the proof you need!
he's the harvard professor? i saw him first on the lex podcast.
is he actually selling alien scrap? lol!
On 4/13/26 2:20 PM, jojo wrote:
he's the harvard professor? i saw him first on the lex podcast. is he
actually selling alien scrap? lol!
No. Mentally ill people attack what they don't understand...
I'm re-posting the link together with my comments from elsewhere.
Avi Loeb exposes them:
https://youtu.be/cAk4bLlYYmM?feature=shared
It's amazing but he talks about a lot of the things we've
talked about here, and by that I mean I talked about them
while Doc sniffed cat farts again...
Triangulation, for example.
I don't know why the traditional UFO nutters hate him. He's
bringing actual science to the question. But for the nutters
it was never about science, it always came down to cloak &
dagger stuff, conspiracies, secret government... etc.
I'm not as optimistic as Avi Loeb. I'm at least as convinced
as he is that other civilizations are out there, and have
been out there. And, that they know we are here and a number
greater than zero have investigated us. But...
You've heard of the proverbial "Needle in the haystack," right?
Let me illustrate the point, what we're up against:
Chimpanzees.
Theince or "Science" tells us that humans and Chimpanzees split
anywhere from 5 million to 20 million years ago. But did you
know that the very oldest Chimpanzee fossil is all of maybe
half a million years old? So by conventional wisdom we're missing
AT LEAST 90% of the history of Chimpanzees. All traces of Chimps
for AT A ROCK BOTTOM MINIMUM 90% of their history is missing.
There are 300k or less Chimps alive in the world. Within historic
times there might have been as many as a couple of million alive
at the same time. So image if even a thousand alien probes landed
(crashed) here every year... a tiny sliver of a fraction of the
number of Chimps. And we can't find ANY chimps what so ever past
half a million years. THAT'S how difficult it is to find proverbial
needles in a haystack,
But it gets worse.
When Chimps finally do pop up in the fossil record, it's only
teeth. And although people will insist that teeth are definitive
when it suits them, they are far, Far, FAR from accurate proof
of anything. Maybe these are Chimp teeth, maybe they're some
species which exploited a similar diet...
In fact, there are 10 million year old teeth found in Europe
that appear to belong to an Ardipithecus or Australopithecus *Millions*
of years before they arrived in Africa! Which REQUIRES that either
science got evolution spectacularly wrong or teeth are not quite as >authoritative as some people like to claim.
So, Chimps go back 5 to 20 million years,
according to "Science,"
but we don't even have conclusive proof of their existing as far
back as half a million years.
How do we find alien tech, assuming it's been arriving here in
far fewer numbers than Chimpanzees?
On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 20:31:01 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/13/26 2:20 PM, jojo wrote:
he's the harvard professor? i saw him first on the lex podcast. is he
actually selling alien scrap? lol!
No. Mentally ill people attack what they don't understand...
I'm re-posting the link together with my comments from elsewhere.
Avi Loeb exposes them:
From:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Loeb
"Loeb's claims about alien life have attracted sustained criticism
from other scientists.
He is advocating that 2 of the 3 interstellar asteroid/comet visitors
we've had in the last few years are in fact alien spacecraft.
On 4/14/26 2:28 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 20:31:01 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/13/26 2:20 PM, jojo wrote:
he's the harvard professor? i saw him first on the lex podcast. is he
actually selling alien scrap? lol!
No. Mentally ill people attack what they don't understand...
I'm re-posting the link together with my comments from elsewhere.
Avi Loeb exposes them:
From:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Loeb
Wiki is a starting point, not a source. It's not unbiased and its
accuracy is often questionable, at best.
"Loeb's claims about alien life have attracted sustained criticism
from other scientists.
What claims? Like Oumuamua? The one that his critics explained away
with a bevy of rotating "Solutions" which, no matter how far away
from the last one, proved how rational they were?
...the actual word is "Rationalizing."
Everyone agrees that humans can't be the only intelligent species in
the universe. Everyone agrees that the earth is visible AS A LIFE
BEARING WORLD out beyond 100 light years, and that's by OUR level of >technology! Everyone agrees that this has been the case for billion
of years. And everyone agrees that the probability of an intelligent
species sending a probe to investigating the life on our world is
greater than zero.
So, what's ridiculous about investigating any object originating from
outside our galaxy, particularly one that doesn't match the description
of any natural object observed or proposed?
The "Explanation" for Oumuamua never existed prior to Oumuamua
looking like an artificial object & desperate for a natural explanation.
That explanation had never been proposed before, never been tested...
but that makes sense, right?
Plus, you being retarded,
you ignored what I said! Avi Loeb exposed
the fraud! He wrote a paper addressing more objects from outside our
galaxy, submitted it to a peer reviewed journal and they rejected it
on the claim that it wasn't interesting -- though the entire field of
study is not yet even 10 years old, and the number of objects identified
up to that time could be counted on one hand! Still, several NEW one
wasn't interesting...
Then NASA changed their data! They changed the data which pointed to
these objects!
Yes Avi Loeb exposed all of this...
Now I'll tell you what you did wrong here but it'll be wasted on you,
so you'll never improve:
You didn't read what I said. You couldn't understand it anyway.
You
certainly didn't address it.
Instead, you cherry picked a counter
viewpoint and clung to it as some "Truth." Which would be embarrassing
enough even if you had understand the issues and what the counter
position was...
Why?
Were you TRIGGERED by the claim that some proof of aliens would be
revealed within four years?
Why?
SETI claimed like 30 years, but they said that some years ago so why
is 25 years good and four years bad? Why?
If Wikipedia bothers you, just use the references
What claims? Like Oumuamua? The one that his critics explained away
with a bevy of rotating "Solutions" which, no matter how far away
from the last one, proved how rational they were?
...the actual word is "Rationalizing."
What's your best argument that Oumuamua is an alien space craft or
alien probe?
On 4/14/26 11:39 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
If Wikipedia bothers you, just use the references
So you're telling me to find cites to support your position
because you don't know how to do that.
No. I'm not going to.
What claims? Like Oumuamua? The one that his critics explained away
with a bevy of rotating "Solutions" which, no matter how far away
from the last one, proved how rational they were?
...the actual word is "Rationalizing."
What's your best argument that Oumuamua is an alien space craft or
alien probe?
You're amazingly stupid -- Astounding moronic -- so you missed it
entirely: Science.
Avi Loeb conducts science.
"I just thought up something that nobody ever suggested before and I
can't think of any way to test it, but it's science!"
Nope.
And experience shows me that I can keep explaining this and you're
just going to keep flexing your disorders & missing it....
On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 12:35:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
So you're telling me to find cites to support your position
because you don't know how to do that.
No. I'm not going to.
What a cowardly cop-out.
You're amazingly stupid -- Astounding moronic -- so you missed it
entirely: Science.
Just "Science"?
On 4/14/26 2:24 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 12:35:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
So you're telling me to find cites to support your position
because you don't know how to do that.
No. I'm not going to.
What a cowardly cop-out.
Lol! "It's cowardly to not make my argument for me!" You're a
pussy. Man-up.
You're amazingly stupid -- Astounding moronic
-- so you missed it
entirely: Science.
Just "Science"?
Well you morons can't tell the difference between science and a
mainstream media headline so, it's a difficult concept for you.
But, yes, science. Just science. He approaches things scientifically.
That's it. There should be nothing else... "Just science."
Your reply exposes the fact that you can't grasp why.
Just click
On 4/16/26 12:41 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
Just click
I know you believe you're not mentally ill,
but
you haven't addressed anything I've said. You've reacted,
lashed out emotionally towards Avi Loeb.
You have. And your mental illness will prevent you from
seeing this even after I pointed it out to you!
So here's your cite again:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-four-years
Why don't you try responding to what is being said instead
of acting like like a bed wetting child?
In other words, get back to us when the wreckage of an alien space
craft *has* been found, not
On 4/16/26 1:16 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
In other words, get back to us when the wreckage of an alien space
craft *has* been found, not
So you confirmed the fact that you ARE mentally ill!
Avi Loeb predicted we'll have confirmation in four years. You
had nothing to say about that and you still have nothing to say!
SETI claimed that they would find aliens by 2036, thanks to
Moore's Law. That's 12 years away. Do you really "Feel" that
it makes that much difference, because you clearly are not
thinking here...
You're a mental/emotional basket case. And I'm laughing at you!
On 4/13/26 10:43 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 4/13/2026 7:34 AM, JTEM wrote:
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-
within- four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
And, your point is??-a I predict that someone, anyone, will win some
Lottery in the next 5 years!
So you think the likelihood of aliens here on earth, or in
communication, or proof of their technology -- IN THE NEXT FOUR
YEARS -- is exactly as likely as someone winning the lottery at
some point in the next five years...
Wow.
Did I ever tell you that you're an idiot? Because I meant to.
Predictions such that you cite in the OP are worthless because they have
no priors.
So get back to us in four years, then.
On 4/16/26 5:58 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
So get back to us in four years, then.
So as further proof of your mental illness: You accept 10 and even 50
year "Predictions" for AGW, despite never once getting a prediction
right in GENERATIONS!
Look. You're not triggered by this. You're triggered by me. You shut
what little brain you have completely off when you see "JTEM" up in
the headers...
Lol!
I love it!
I'm the very center of your universe,
and your shit posting here,
these sad attempts at trolling, prove it every single time....
On 4/17/26 12:21 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
Predictions such that you cite in the OP are worthless because they
have no priors.
I'm so glad that you have habitually used this "Dawn" alter to
defend Gwobull Warming, with DECADES of failed predictions, so
that none of the irony could be lost...
If there aren't predictions, it's not a valid hypothesis.
A valid scientific hypothesis explains the data, the observations,
and serves as a basis for predictions. It is these predictions
which can be subject to proper experimentation, supporting or
falsifying the hypothesis.
Now pretend that you knew this already when you just now exposed
the fact that you have no clue...
Nope.-a I am appealing to Bayesian analysis; the OP has no priors,
On 4/18/26 11:52 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
Nope.-a I am appealing to Bayesian analysis; the OP has no priors,
Gwobull Warblinb has DECADES of failed predictions yet you dogmatically
cling to it. It's also not science, failing to meet the basic standards
of science. Avi Loeb, on the other hand, applies strict scientific methodology.
You can pretend you're "Applying" THIS or analyzing THAT, but you're
just a fucTard spazz obeying the mainstream media... "Facebook says
GWOBULL WARBLING so it's hot!"
Most of the 104 or so IPCC models
So as further proof of your mental illness: You accept 10 and even 50
year "Predictions" for AGW, despite never once getting a prediction
right in GENERATIONS!
Name five of them.
On 4/18/26 3:47 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
So as further proof of your mental illness: You accept 10 and even 50
year "Predictions" for AGW, despite never once getting a prediction
right in GENERATIONS!
Name five of them.
#1. You're admitting your ignorance. You don't know. You insist that
you have no clue, not a one, regarding any of the countless FAILED
"climate" predictions made over the last century or more.
#2. You are demonstrating that you don't give a shit. You're not
interested in information, you're a mentally ill troll just trying
to occupy it's time with fake "Arguments" online.
Don't deny it, you would have simply Googled it!
Seriously. If you wanted to be informed, if you were unaware of
certain facts -- like all the FAILED "climate" predictions -- you
would have just Googled it.
You do have internet access, right?
BUT YOU DIDN'T!
You weren't interested. But you are mentally ill, you do post
under a number of rotating handles and, being a moron, you have
been shut down many times in the past when challenged to produce
a cite in support of something you made up.
And, being effectively retarded and not just mentally ill, you
can't grasp that the challenge for cites was so effective because
you're a psycho who makes shit up, and the word "Cite" is not magic
and didn't make you appear like a fucking idiot through the Dark
Powers...
https://nypost.com/2025/09/15/opinion/fearmongering-predictions-about-climate-change-keep-falling-apart/
https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/4/a/4a86454f-4287-4d1c-ae5f-85a01b8c78b8/7E90482A76C15A7B2D2473E6EDC911C0.refuting-12-claims-made-by-climate-alarmists.pdf
https://www.agweb.com/opinion/doomsday-addiction-celebrating-50-years-failed-climate-predictions
You. Are. An. Embarrassment.
Again: GOOGLE IT!
You would have if you cared, if you weren't a mentally ill troll
grepping for negative attention.
You initially said "predictions for AGW," not predictions of climate
change
On 4/20/26 5:22 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
Most of the 104 or so IPCC models
"DON'T LOOK AT THE WEATHER!-a Look at the models. Yeah, the models.
That's it... that's the ticket..."
Meanwhile we're some 2.6 million years into an ice age, when the
absolute shortest ice age I can think of lasted maybe 4 million
years. So, yeah, we're fucked. Humanity is going to see a return
of the glaciers, sooner rather than later.
The Holocene is already overdue to end, bring in the next
glacial period.
On 4/24/26 12:19 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
You initially said "predictions for AGW," not predictions of climate
change [restored from snip: *and other ecological questions in general*]
They are one and the same according to your own narrative,
though I
can't claim to be surprised by your ignorance. Anyway, just read
the GWOBULL WARBLING predictions.
It means having to make it through
more words than your diseased mind can handle but, hey, so what?
STOP being such a pussy!
As of this morning (April 25, 2026), the direction is one of decreasing
sea ice:
"The first well-known environmental scare story was the 1968 book rCLPopulation Bomb.rCY
On 4/25/26 6:42 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
As of this morning (April 25, 2026), the direction is one of
decreasing sea ice:
When, what year specifically, has the narrative NOT made such a claim?
#1.-a Why is there even still ice?
#2.-a At the current rate, when will it be all gone?
For extra bonus doses of your meds; out of the almost 12,000 years
popularly attributed to the Holocene, and the more accurate 15,000
actual years, how many are included in your oh so scientific "Data?"
On 4/25/26 10:52 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
"The first well-known environmental scare story was the 1968 book
oPopulation Bomb.o
So things stopped there or your brain was full and you couldn't make
it any further?
Anyway, you've had GENERATIONS of failed GWOBULL WARBLING predictions,
but you shit yourself then wiped it on your face because Avi Loeb
gave you a 4 year window.
DECADES of "Predictions" about what's gonna happen by 2100 and you
never blink, someone talked about sometime between now and 2030 and
all you can hear is the dog whistle ordering you to bark...
On 4/25/2026 11:46 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 4/25/26 6:42 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:Your viewpoint isn't even scientific, because you want all of this to
As of this morning (April 25, 2026), the direction is one of
decreasing sea ice:
When, what year specifically, has the narrative NOT made such a claim?
#1.-a Why is there even still ice?
#2.-a At the current rate, when will it be all gone?
For extra bonus doses of your meds; out of the almost 12,000 years
popularly attributed to the Holocene, and the more accurate 15,000
actual years, how many are included in your oh so scientific "Data?"
fall into the arena of "settled science", and as I have told you,
scientific truth is "contingent truth," that is, it is testable & correctable.-a And, so, just wait; as impatient as you are, just wait!
Dawn
P.S.-a The ice continues to melt, and the sea ice that is present at the North & South poles will likely be gone entirely, at least in the summer months, by the year 2050.
Was just reading the UAPRO website:
https://uapro.tumblr.com/post/813782609630986240/alien-contact-within-four-years
Avi Loeb predicts aliens within four years!
No alt.aliens newsgroup, by the way?
On 4/27/26 11:34 AM, Anthk wrote:
No alt.aliens newsgroup, by the way?
I was subscribed but, it's not very active and when it is... spam
and nutters. Nothing serious.
I don't feel like I need to agree with anyone but I have to at
least believe that they believe.
I like Avi Loeb because he's not asking me to believe. He's
pushing science. He doesn't just make claims, he always
proposes tests. AND, he even conducts scientifically valid
tests!
Yes, Avi Loeb proposed that 3I/ATLAS could be an alien craft.
BUT, he didn't stop there. He spoke about behaviors to watch
for, what would be proof (or at least powerful evidence) of
alien tech. And although we didn't end up witnessing it, that's
okay. He proposed a hypothesis and a prediction based on that
hypothesis, one that served as a test. THAT is valid science.
...invalid science is a so-called "Hypothesis" which is
incapable of being falsified. In fact, that would be religion,
not science!
Here is what you deleted, as you always do:
I was subscribed but, it's not very active and when it is... spam
and nutters. Nothing serious.
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
On 4/27/26 1:36 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Here is what you deleted, as you always do:
You're not supposed to quote text you aren't responding to.
It sucks up bandwidth, makes a conversation more difficult
to follow when you already have significant difficulty even
following your own "Contribution" <snicker>.
Why did you re-post the text? You did not respond to it at
all. So, did you have a point or where you merely, once
again, posting random idiocy in the hopes that someone
might mistaken it as pertinent?
I was subscribed but, it's not very active and when it is... spam
and nutters. Nothing serious.
Yes. I was asked why I didn't post to a specific group and I answered
that question. Gosh. Golly.
Again, did you mistakenly believe to have a point? If so, what was
it? Spell it out and I will be sure to humiliate you over your
stupidity.
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
There's some Postecies -- "Predictions" made after the fact -- but
there's nothing. There's ZERO science behind "AGW." It fails to
meet even a rudimentary understanding of science.
-a-a-a-a-a-a ...the fact that it looks exclusively at a small, unrepresentative sample of the Holocene, compares it to itself AND
THEN declares that it doesn't match... this would clue in anyone
who isn't emotionally invested in a particular answer that we're
not dealing with "Science."
A legitimate comparison might be the post industrial era to pre
industrial periods. Or, even a comparison of the Holocene interglacial
to the Eemian interglacial. But this never happens. 100% of the AGW
idiocy is based on a comparison of a tiny fraction of the post
industrial Holocene to itself.
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
There's some Postecies -- "Predictions" made after the fact -- but
there's nothing. There's ZERO science behind "AGW." It fails to
meet even a rudimentary understanding of science.
...the fact that it looks exclusively at a small,
unrepresentative sample of the Holocene, compares it to itself AND
THEN declares that it doesn't match... this would clue in anyone
who isn't emotionally invested in a particular answer that we're
not dealing with "Science."
A legitimate comparison might be the post industrial era to pre
industrial periods.
Or, even a comparison of the Holocene interglacial
to the Eemian interglacial. But this never happens. 100% of the AGW
idiocy is based on a comparison of a tiny fraction of the post
industrial Holocene to itself.
The post is hundreds of lines long
and
You delete
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 07:16:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
Here they are again:
https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/7-climate-predictions-that-actually-came-true/
https://theconversation.com/5-forecasts-early-climate-models-got-right-the-evidence-is-all-around-you-263248
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/04/computer-models-have-been-accurately-predicting-climate-change-for-50-years/
There's some Postecies -- "Predictions" made after the fact -- but
there's nothing. There's ZERO science behind "AGW." It fails to
meet even a rudimentary understanding of science.
So you don't believe in scientific explanations?
...the fact that it looks exclusively at a small,
unrepresentative sample of the Holocene, compares it to itself AND
THEN declares that it doesn't match... this would clue in anyone
who isn't emotionally invested in a particular answer that we're
not dealing with "Science."
How and why does one get "emotionally invested" in AGW?
A legitimate comparison might be the post industrial era to pre
industrial periods.
That's the comparison that they generally make.
Or, even a comparison of the Holocene interglacial
to the Eemian interglacial. But this never happens. 100% of the AGW
idiocy is based on a comparison of a tiny fraction of the post
industrial Holocene to itself.
No, there's no reason to go back to the Eemian to understand AGW. And
your idea about comparing the Holocene to itself is as ridiculous as
it was the last of the many times you made that remark.
On 4/28/2026 10:48 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 07:16:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
Here they are again:
https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/7-climate-predictions-that-actually-came-true/
https://theconversation.com/5-forecasts-early-climate-models-got-right-the-evidence-is-all-around-you-263248
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/04/computer-models-have-been-accurately-predicting-climate-change-for-50-years/
There's some Postecies -- "Predictions" made after the fact -- but
there's nothing. There's ZERO science behind "AGW." It fails to
meet even a rudimentary understanding of science.
So you don't believe in scientific explanations?
...the fact that it looks exclusively at a small,
unrepresentative sample of the Holocene, compares it to itself AND
THEN declares that it doesn't match... this would clue in anyone
who isn't emotionally invested in a particular answer that we're
not dealing with "Science."
How and why does one get "emotionally invested" in AGW?
A legitimate comparison might be the post industrial era to pre
industrial periods.
That's the comparison that they generally make.
Or, even a comparison of the Holocene interglacial
to the Eemian interglacial. But this never happens. 100% of the AGW
idiocy is based on a comparison of a tiny fraction of the post
industrial Holocene to itself.
No, there's no reason to go back to the Eemian to understand AGW. And
your idea about comparing the Holocene to itself is as ridiculous as
it was the last of the many times you made that remark.
It is at least just odd if all of the Arctic Sea Ice disappears in the
next decade or two. Why now?? Why not during those many decades when >explorers were actively searching for the Northwest Passage?!
Dawn
LOL! Good point.You were triggered because Avi Loeb made a prediction.
On 4/28/2026 10:48 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 07:16:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
Here they are again:
https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/7-climate-predictions-that-
actually-came-true/
Vincent Maycock wrote:
LOL! Good point.You were triggered because Avi Loeb made a prediction.
You pretend it was the prediction itself but we both
know it's not, that the problem is your mental illness.
How do we know this? Because it's VERY similar to a
prediction made by SETI and nowhere in the history of
usenet did you ever voice any issue over it.
No, this i your mental illness at work again...
PLUS you love predictions when they fail! As in the
case of your precious Gwobull Warbling during an ice
age!
"Oh no! We might not die under a glacier... yet."
On 4/28/2026 10:48 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 07:16:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
Here they are again:
https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/7-climate-predictions-that-actu
ally-came-true/
https://theconversation.com/5-forecasts-early-climate-models-got-right
-the-evidence-is-all-around-you-263248
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/04/computer-models-have-been-a
ccurately-predicting-climate-change-for-50-years/
There's some Postecies -- "Predictions" made after the fact -- but
there's nothing. There's ZERO science behind "AGW." It fails to
meet even a rudimentary understanding of science.
So you don't believe in scientific explanations?
...the fact that it looks exclusively at a small,
unrepresentative sample of the Holocene, compares it to itself AND
THEN declares that it doesn't match... this would clue in anyone
who isn't emotionally invested in a particular answer that we're
not dealing with "Science."
How and why does one get "emotionally invested" in AGW?
A legitimate comparison might be the post industrial era to pre
industrial periods.
That's the comparison that they generally make.
Or, even a comparison of the Holocene interglacial
to the Eemian interglacial. But this never happens. 100% of the AGW
idiocy is based on a comparison of a tiny fraction of the post
industrial Holocene to itself.
No, there's no reason to go back to the Eemian to understand AGW. And
your idea about comparing the Holocene to itself is as ridiculous as
it was the last of the many times you made that remark.
It is at least just odd if all of the Arctic Sea Ice disappears in the
next decade or two. Why now?? Why not during those many decades when explorers were actively searching for the Northwest Passage?!
Dawn
Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:10srjin$3i3vp$1@dont-email.me:
On 4/28/2026 10:48 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 07:16:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
Here they are again:
https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/7-climate-predictions-that-actu
ally-came-true/
https://theconversation.com/5-forecasts-early-climate-models-got-right
-the-evidence-is-all-around-you-263248
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/04/computer-models-have-been-a
ccurately-predicting-climate-change-for-50-years/
There's some Postecies -- "Predictions" made after the fact -- but
there's nothing. There's ZERO science behind "AGW." It fails to
meet even a rudimentary understanding of science.
So you don't believe in scientific explanations?
...the fact that it looks exclusively at a small,
unrepresentative sample of the Holocene, compares it to itself AND
THEN declares that it doesn't match... this would clue in anyone
who isn't emotionally invested in a particular answer that we're
not dealing with "Science."
How and why does one get "emotionally invested" in AGW?
A legitimate comparison might be the post industrial era to pre
industrial periods.
That's the comparison that they generally make.
Or, even a comparison of the Holocene interglacial
to the Eemian interglacial. But this never happens. 100% of the AGW
idiocy is based on a comparison of a tiny fraction of the post
industrial Holocene to itself.
No, there's no reason to go back to the Eemian to understand AGW. And
your idea about comparing the Holocene to itself is as ridiculous as
it was the last of the many times you made that remark.
It is at least just odd if all of the Arctic Sea Ice disappears in the
next decade or two. Why now?? Why not during those many decades when
explorers were actively searching for the Northwest Passage?!
Dawn
Russia Raises an "Ice Curtain" in Arctic, Thanks to Climate Change
August 28, 2015
Russia has developed an "anti-access" presence
in the Arctic in the past year with a stronger
military presence, a push for more territory,
and nationalist rhetoric, a report from the
Center for Strategic and International Studies
notes.
NATO has reported that Russia has increasingly
been turning off aircraft tracking devices when
flying over Northern Europe, and the country
has announced the reopening of dozens of
previously closed military bases in the Arctic.
While not focused entirely on climate change,
the analysis offers a preview of ongoing
geopolitical tensions rCo and legal issues rCo
likely to be exacerbated by ice loss. It urges
Arctic nations to negotiate a "declaration on
military conduct" requiring nations to give a
21-day advance notice of major military
exercises rCo which could prevent actions like
the unannounced Russian Arctic military exercises
this year involving more than 45,000 forces.
"The Arctic is beginning to become militarized
and there is no forum or place to discuss
security-related issues and to promote greater
transparency and confidence," states the report,
which refers to the current situation as "the
new ice curtain."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/russia-raises-an-ice-curtain- in-the-arctic-thanks-to-climate-change/
On 4/30/2026 12:20 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:actu
Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in
news:10srjin$3i3vp$1@dont-email.me:
On 4/28/2026 10:48 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 07:16:33 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/26/26 2:50 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
And your brain couldn't even get started on reading the verified
predictions of AGW I posted?
There are none.
Here they are again:
https://climatecosmos.com/climate-news/7-climate-predictions-that-
rightally-came-true/
https://theconversation.com/5-forecasts-early-climate-models-got-
been-a-the-evidence-is-all-around-you-263248
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/04/computer-models-have-
Andccurately-predicting-climate-change-for-50-years/
There's some Postecies -- "Predictions" made after the fact -- but
there's nothing. There's ZERO science behind "AGW." It fails to
meet even a rudimentary understanding of science.
So you don't believe in scientific explanations?
...the fact that it looks exclusively at a small,
unrepresentative sample of the Holocene, compares it to itself AND
THEN declares that it doesn't match... this would clue in anyone
who isn't emotionally invested in a particular answer that we're
not dealing with "Science."
How and why does one get "emotionally invested" in AGW?
A legitimate comparison might be the post industrial era to pre
industrial periods.
That's the comparison that they generally make.
Or, even a comparison of the Holocene interglacial
to the Eemian interglacial. But this never happens. 100% of the AGW
idiocy is based on a comparison of a tiny fraction of the post
industrial Holocene to itself.
No, there's no reason to go back to the Eemian to understand AGW.
theyour idea about comparing the Holocene to itself is as ridiculous as
it was the last of the many times you made that remark.
It is at least just odd if all of the Arctic Sea Ice disappears in
whennext decade or two. Why now?? Why not during those many decades
curtain-explorers were actively searching for the Northwest Passage?!
Dawn
Russia Raises an "Ice Curtain" in Arctic, Thanks to Climate Change
August 28, 2015
Russia has developed an "anti-access" presence
in the Arctic in the past year with a stronger
military presence, a push for more territory,
and nationalist rhetoric, a report from the
Center for Strategic and International Studies
notes.
NATO has reported that Russia has increasingly
been turning off aircraft tracking devices when
flying over Northern Europe, and the country
has announced the reopening of dozens of
previously closed military bases in the Arctic.
While not focused entirely on climate change,
the analysis offers a preview of ongoing
geopolitical tensions rCo and legal issues rCo
likely to be exacerbated by ice loss. It urges
Arctic nations to negotiate a "declaration on
military conduct" requiring nations to give a
21-day advance notice of major military
exercises rCo which could prevent actions like
the unannounced Russian Arctic military exercises
this year involving more than 45,000 forces.
"The Arctic is beginning to become militarized
and there is no forum or place to discuss
security-related issues and to promote greater
transparency and confidence," states the report,
which refers to the current situation as "the
new ice curtain."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/russia-raises-an-ice-
in-the-arctic-thanks-to-climate-change/
Yeah, JTEM & Friends need to go back to the Age of Discovery and read
some of the diaries of ship captains who vainly searched for the
Northwest Passage; these diaries talk about the "mountains of floating
ice". Once again, JTEM can't answer the simple question, "Why, now?"
Why was the Arctic last free of ice over 100K years ago??
You pretend it was the prediction itself but we both
know it's not, that the problem is your mental illness.
That's ridiculous.
How do we know this? Because it's VERY similar to a
prediction made by SETI and nowhere in the history of
usenet did you ever voice any issue over it.
Why do you have a problem with SETI and not Avi Loeb?
NATO has reported that Russia has increasingly
been turning off aircraft tracking devices when
flying over Northern Europe, and the country
has announced the reopening of dozens of
previously closed military bases in the Arctic.
While not focused entirely on climate change,
Yeah, JTEM & Friends need to go back to the Age of Discovery and read
some of the diaries of ship captains who vainly searched for the
Northwest Passage;
On 4/30/26 9:50 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
You pretend it was the prediction itself but we both
know it's not, that the problem is your mental illness.
That's ridiculous.
You're saying that it's ridiculous that you won't seek
treatment and instead allow your mental illness to
guide your actions?
How do we know this? Because it's VERY similar to a
prediction made by SETI and nowhere in the history of
usenet did you ever voice any issue over it.
Why do you have a problem with SETI and not Avi Loeb?
Lol! If you want to pretend that I'm as hypocritical as
you, make your case! BUT YOU ARE A LYING HYPOCRITE!
There's nothing "Shocking" in Avi Loeb's prediction. It's
off from SETI by 8 years, as if that's a big deal when
speaking of proof of aliens. But you have ZERO issue with
SETI.
No, you're just mentally ill.
You want negative attention, just like mom used to give
you.
On 5/1/26 1:30 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
Yeah, JTEM & Friends need to go back to the Age of Discovery and read
some of the diaries of ship captains who vainly searched for the
Northwest Passage;
Nobody tell her/he/they/it but getting through with an ice breaker,
which is rare, is the opposite of the passage being open. It's
literally closed, hence the need for an "Ice Breaker." Yet she/he/
they/it thinks it's open annually, even if only for a tiny window.
But it's not science.
The Holocene is popularly dated back maybe 12k years ago, it's
more like 15k factoring out the Younger Dryas cooling, and all
the fake "Science" compares a small, unrepresentative period of
time in the post industrial age to ITSELF.
HOW do you embarrassments think "Ice Age" animals got trapped
inside of some "Permafrost," only to melt out today?
CLEARLY this "Permafrost" wasn't "Permafrost" when these animals
died. They didn't have Star Trek "Transporters" to beam each
other inside the ice. Nope. It simply wasn't that cold.
We see "Permafrost," they saw "Dirt."
On 5/4/2026 11:03 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 5/1/26 1:30 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:This is false. In recent times, ships have sailed through the Northwest Passage without any difficulty. Google "northwest passage cruises" for
Yeah, JTEM & Friends need to go back to the Age of Discovery and read
some of the diaries of ship captains who vainly searched for the
Northwest Passage;
Nobody tell her/he/they/it but getting through with an ice breaker,
which is rare, is the opposite of the passage being open. It's
literally closed, hence the need for an "Ice Breaker." Yet she/he/
they/it thinks it's open annually, even if only for a tiny window.
But it's not science.
The Holocene is popularly dated back maybe 12k years ago, it's
more like 15k factoring out the Younger Dryas cooling, and all
the fake "Science" compares a small, unrepresentative period of
time in the post industrial age to ITSELF.
HOW do you embarrassments think "Ice Age" animals got trapped
inside of some "Permafrost," only to melt out today?
CLEARLY this "Permafrost" wasn't "Permafrost" when these animals
died. They didn't have Star Trek "Transporters" to beam each
other inside the ice. Nope. It simply wasn't that cold.
We see "Permafrost," they saw "Dirt."
more information.
On 4/30/26 9:50 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
You pretend it was the prediction itself but we both
know it's not, that the problem is your mental illness.
That's ridiculous.
You're saying that it's ridiculous that you won't seek
treatment and instead allow your mental illness to
guide your actions?
How do we know this?-a Because it's VERY similar to a
prediction made by SETI and nowhere in the history of
usenet did you ever voice any issue over it.
Why do you have a problem with SETI and not Avi Loeb?
Lol!-a If you want to pretend that I'm as hypocritical as
you, make your case! BUT YOU ARE A LYING HYPOCRITE!
There's nothing "Shocking" in Avi Loeb's prediction. It's
off from SETI by 8 years, as if that's a big deal when
speaking of proof of aliens. But you have ZERO issue with
SETI.
No, you're just mentally ill.
You want negative attention, just like mom used to give
you.
On 5/4/2026 10:50 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 4/30/26 9:50 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
You pretend it was the prediction itself but we both
know it's not, that the problem is your mental illness.
That's ridiculous.
You're saying that it's ridiculous that you won't seek
treatment and instead allow your mental illness to
guide your actions?
How do we know this?-a Because it's VERY similar to a
prediction made by SETI and nowhere in the history of
usenet did you ever voice any issue over it.
Why do you have a problem with SETI and not Avi Loeb?
Lol!-a If you want to pretend that I'm as hypocritical as
you, make your case! BUT YOU ARE A LYING HYPOCRITE!
There's nothing "Shocking" in Avi Loeb's prediction. It's
off from SETI by 8 years, as if that's a big deal when
speaking of proof of aliens. But you have ZERO issue with
SETI.
No, you're just mentally ill.
You want negative attention, just like mom used to give
you.
As I told you, the "prediction" is meaningless.-a No one knows
when or if sentient aliens will be detected; as with so many
things, time will tell.
Dawn
Dawn Flood wrote:
On 5/4/2026 10:50 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 4/30/26 9:50 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
You pretend it was the prediction itself but we both
know it's not, that the problem is your mental illness.
That's ridiculous.
You're saying that it's ridiculous that you won't seek
treatment and instead allow your mental illness to
guide your actions?
How do we know this?-a Because it's VERY similar to a
prediction made by SETI and nowhere in the history of
usenet did you ever voice any issue over it.
Why do you have a problem with SETI and not Avi Loeb?
Lol!-a If you want to pretend that I'm as hypocritical as
you, make your case! BUT YOU ARE A LYING HYPOCRITE!
There's nothing "Shocking" in Avi Loeb's prediction. It's
off from SETI by 8 years, as if that's a big deal when
speaking of proof of aliens. But you have ZERO issue with
SETI.
No, you're just mentally ill.
You want negative attention, just like mom used to give
you.
As I told you, the "prediction" is meaningless.-a No one knows when or
if sentient aliens will be detected; as with so many things, time will
tell.
Dawn
my guess is aliens are already here and are ai enhanced beings.
On 5/9/2026 9:13 AM, jojo wrote:
Dawn Flood wrote:
On 5/4/2026 10:50 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 4/30/26 9:50 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
You pretend it was the prediction itself but we both
know it's not, that the problem is your mental illness.
That's ridiculous.
You're saying that it's ridiculous that you won't seek
treatment and instead allow your mental illness to
guide your actions?
How do we know this?-a Because it's VERY similar to a
prediction made by SETI and nowhere in the history of
usenet did you ever voice any issue over it.
Why do you have a problem with SETI and not Avi Loeb?
Lol!-a If you want to pretend that I'm as hypocritical as
you, make your case! BUT YOU ARE A LYING HYPOCRITE!
There's nothing "Shocking" in Avi Loeb's prediction. It's
off from SETI by 8 years, as if that's a big deal when
speaking of proof of aliens. But you have ZERO issue with
SETI.
No, you're just mentally ill.
You want negative attention, just like mom used to give
you.
As I told you, the "prediction" is meaningless.-a No one knows
when or if sentient aliens will be detected; as with so many
things, time will tell.
Dawn
my guess is aliens are already here and are ai enhanced beings.
With that one, you could also claim that they are all here
controlling all of our minds, and as a consequence, we have no
free will and no personal responsibility for anything that we say
or do.
Dawn Flood wrote:
we dont need aliens for that, we could just be bio machines? past a
certain layer of network complexity, self referential loops may begin,
what we ascribe divine ordinance.. ornance? order?
It's ridiculous because
On 5/4/26 4:15 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
It's ridiculous because
You're mentally ill.
And we know this because you
are REACTING to, you always REACT to the presence
of anything posted by me.
You don't care about the
topics, you're most just pig ignorant, your
reactions are purely emotional... and we know this
for a fact because we proved it.
Again & again. In
this thread we demonstrated how the "Prediction"
you're pretending to responding to is almost
identical to predictions made by others, and you
never cared.
Lol! I bet you like to believe that you're a
victim!
"Eew! Eew! I react emotionally to everything
JTEM, and he always swats me down for being a
highly disordered twat! Eew~ Eew!"
On 5/9/26 4:54 PM, jojo wrote:
Dawn Flood wrote:
we dont need aliens for that, we could just be bio machines?
past a certain layer of network complexity, self referential
loops may begin, what we ascribe divine ordinance.. ornance?
order?
Well the problem there is something had to design/construct these
biomachines in the first place, which at the extreme least does
NOT exclude aliens.
JTEM wrote:
On 5/9/26 4:54 PM, jojo wrote:
Dawn Flood wrote:
we dont need aliens for that, we could just be bio machines? past a
certain layer of network complexity, self referential loops may
begin, what we ascribe divine ordinance.. ornance? order?
Well the problem there is something had to design/construct these
biomachines in the first place, which at the extreme least does
NOT exclude aliens.
no need for a constructor, its a function of automata, emergence from aggregation.
jojo wrote:
JTEM wrote:no its not
On 5/9/26 4:54 PM, jojo wrote:
Dawn Flood wrote:
we dont need aliens for that, we could just be bio machines?
past a certain layer of network complexity, self referential
loops may begin, what we ascribe divine ordinance.. ornance?
order?
Well the problem there is something had to design/construct these
biomachines in the first place, which at the extreme least does
NOT exclude aliens.
no need for a constructor, its a function of automata,
emergence from aggregation.
JTEM wrote:
On 5/9/26 4:54 PM, jojo wrote:
Dawn Flood wrote:
we dont need aliens for that, we could just be bio machines? past a
certain layer of network complexity, self referential loops may
begin, what we ascribe divine ordinance.. ornance? order?
Well the problem there is something had to design/construct these
biomachines in the first place, which at the extreme least does
NOT exclude aliens.
no need for a constructor, its a function of automata, emergence from aggregation.
On 5/14/26 10:48 AM, jojo wrote:
JTEM wrote:
On 5/9/26 4:54 PM, jojo wrote:
Dawn Flood wrote:
we dont need aliens for that, we could just be bio machines?
past a certain layer of network complexity, self referential
loops may begin, what we ascribe divine ordinance.. ornance?
order?
Well the problem there is something had to design/construct these
biomachines in the first place, which at the extreme least does
NOT exclude aliens.
no need for a constructor, its a function of automata,
emergence from aggregation.
You need to state that you're joking, fast, or live with the
consequences of casting yourself as insane.
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