-aJTEM wrote:
To prove how idiotic the collective is, we need look no
further than what we have all always been taught:
Time doesn't exist for a photon. it's essentially everywhere
in the universe, or everywhere it can potentially reach,
because time isn't a factor. Ever. Space isn't a factor.
There's no traveling between two points -- there's no time
for it to travel -- so it reaches everywhere... it's already
there!
Okay, so entangled photons aren't in different places, not
from the perspective of the photon. And they aren't in
different time intervals either. It's always the same place
and the same time for both of them.
Okay, from THIS point of view, based on everything you have
always been taught about physics, no information is traveling
through time FOR THE PHOTONS. Only us. From our perspective
it is, from the perspective of the photon it isn't.
Wow. It's almost as if time is relative!
Travel close to the speed of light and time will move very
differently for you than for me. You always knew this.
Being intelligent isn't in the accumulation of knowledge. It's
in the application of the knowledge you have. And being stupid
isn't in lacking knowledge, it's in ruthlessly defending that
lack as possession or, even worse, UNDERSTANDING!
There's but three people on this earth who can claim to
understand time, and I'm pretty sure at least two of them are
lying.
Okay, from THIS point of view, based on everything you have
always been taught about physics, no information is traveling
through time FOR THE PHOTONS. Only us. From our perspective
it is, from the perspective of the photon it isn't.
This doesn't even get close to the issue, since any paradoxes are seen
in the measured outcomes, not the photons themselves.
On 11/30/25 1:48 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
Okay, from THIS point of view, based on everything you have
always been taught about physics, no information is traveling
through time FOR THE PHOTONS. Only us. From our perspective
it is, from the perspective of the photon it isn't.
This doesn't even get close to the issue, since any paradoxes are seen
in the measured outcomes, not the photons themselves.
No. Einstein said that time is relative. It's not the same everywhere
for everyone and everything.
The retrocausality is real. The cause is following the effect. But
only for us. Only because we have a very different perspective. But
it's real. Our observations are correct. It is retrocausality.
But not for the photon. Everything is always happening at the same
place, at the same time. For the photon. But not us.
Popular science media like to portray these experiments as having interference patterns present, or not present on screens, and arguing
for retro causality.
The interference patterns are plots produced by analysing the recorded
data, which can only be done after the data has been recorded.
On 01-Dec-25 2:27 am, JTEM wrote:
On 11/30/25 1:48 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
Okay, from THIS point of view, based on everything you have
always been taught about physics, no information is traveling
through time FOR THE PHOTONS. Only us. From our perspective
it is, from the perspective of the photon it isn't.
This doesn't even get close to the issue, since any paradoxes are
seen in the measured outcomes, not the photons themselves.
No. Einstein said that time is relative. It's not the same everywhere
for everyone and everything.
The retrocausality is real. The cause is following the effect. But
only for us. Only because we have a very different perspective. But
it's real. Our observations are correct. It is retrocausality.
But not for the photon. Everything is always happening at the same
place, at the same time. For the photon. But not us.
Popular science media like to portray these experiments as having interference patterns present, or not present on screens, and arguing
for retro causality.
In reality, no interference patterns appear on screens, inter-alia,
because there are no screens.
The interference patterns are plots produced by analysing the recorded
data, which can only be done after the data has been recorded.
Sylvia.
As I have already pointed to JTEM (who continually ignores scientific facts), proper time is an invariant quantity:
On 12/1/25 6:36 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
As I have already pointed to JTEM (who continually ignores scientific
facts), proper time is an invariant quantity:
Lol!-a You are *Such* a goddamn 'tard!
What are you pretending to counter?
Go on. Take your meds and spell it out:-a What on EARTH are you
pretending to "refute?"
You're an embarrassment!
You say intensely stupid things at random, inviting ridicule,
only to pull back then do it all again...
Photons do not experience time. We do. For the photon, nothing
happens in the past, there is no "Before" and "After" but there
is for us.
THIS is why we can't escape Retrocausality. Our sequence can not
translate to the photon, so it's always going to be out of
sync.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with
On 12/2/25 9:22 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
Which has absolutely nothing to do with
So you now testify that whatever idiocy you were spewing HAD NOTHING
TO DO with anything I was talking about.... begging the question,
why did you pretend to have addressed what I said?
It had NOTHING TO DO with anything I was talking about! You just
said so.
You're just crazy. You're nuts. You need humiliation.
Abusive parents?
On 12/2/2025 1:11 PM, JTEM wrote:
On 12/2/25 9:22 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
Which has absolutely nothing to do with
So you now testify that whatever idiocy you were spewing HAD NOTHING
TO DO with anything I was talking about.... begging the question,
why did you pretend to have addressed what I said?
It had NOTHING TO DO with anything I was talking about! You just
said so.
You're just crazy. You're nuts. You need humiliation.
Abusive parents?
Are you a physicist?
On 12/2/25 4:58 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 12/2/2025 1:11 PM, JTEM wrote:
On 12/2/25 9:22 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
Which has absolutely nothing to do with
So you now testify that whatever idiocy you were spewing HAD NOTHING
TO DO with anything I was talking about.... begging the question,
why did you pretend to have addressed what I said?
It had NOTHING TO DO with anything I was talking about! You just
said so.
You're just crazy. You're nuts. You need humiliation.
Abusive parents?
Are you a physicist?
What answer changes the fact that you claimed to have addressed what
I said, only to turn around and admit that your spewings weren't
even relevant to what I said?
No, seriously. What answer to your question can alter the fact of
your insanity here?
Do you accept that proper time is invariant?-a Yes or no?!
REMEMBER EVERYTHING YOU'VE BEEN TAUGHT!!!!
Time doesn't exist for a photon. it's essentially everywhere
in the universe, or everywhere it can potentially reach,
because time isn't a factor. Ever. Space isn't a factor.
There's no traveling between two points -- there's no time
for it to travel -- so it reaches everywhere... it's already
there!
Okay, so entangled photons aren't in different places, not
from the perspective of the photon. And they aren't in
different time intervals either. It's always the same place
and the same time for both of them.
Okay, from THIS point of view, based on everything you have
always been taught about physics, no information is traveling
through time FOR THE PHOTONS. Only us. From our perspective
it is, information is traveling backwards through time but,
from the perspective of the photon it isn't.
Wow. It's almost as if time is relative!
Travel close to the speed of light and time will move very
differently for you than for me. You always knew this. Time
is not uniform for everyone and everything across the universe.
So this is the explanation for the Delayed Choice Quantum
Eraser experiment that doesn't require any backwards time
travel. It's the only real counter to Retrocausality.
There's but three people on this earth who can claim to
understand time, and I'm pretty sure at least two of them are
lying.
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