• BIOS Limitation?

    From Simon@simon@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Tue Aug 18 05:20:58 2026
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    My desktop computer is 64-bit and has 8 GB of RAM. Unfortunately, it is
    still running an old BIOS and it is not possible to upgrade to UEFI. Consequently, the hard disk storage is limited to 2 TB.

    Is there any way I can bypass this limitation? In Windows, I could use
    GParted and MBR to partition the hard disk into two 2 TB partitions (on
    a 4TB HDD). Would I need to do something similar in Linux?

    The machine too slow to run Windows 11 and I have no plans to start
    using Windows 10 ever again. The best option for me is to install Ubuntu
    or Mint and use it for what I normally do. I can run dot net, MSSQL and
    VS Code on ubuntu so there is no need for windows on it.


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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Mon Aug 17 22:46:58 2026
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    On 8/17/26 21:20, Simon wrote:
    My desktop computer is 64-bit and has 8 GB of RAM. Unfortunately, it is
    still running an old BIOS and it is not possible to upgrade to UEFI. Consequently, the hard disk storage is limited to 2 TB.

    Is there any way I can bypass this limitation? In Windows, I could use GParted and MBR to partition the hard disk into two 2 TB partitions (on
    a 4TB HDD). Would I need to do something similar in Linux?

    The machine too slow to run Windows 11 and I have no plans to start
    using Windows 10 ever again. The best option for me is to install Ubuntu
    or Mint and use it for what I normally do. I can run dot net, MSSQL and
    VS Code on ubuntu so there is no need for windows on it.


    There is a way to use MBR wtth GTP and in Linux we customarily use GPartEd* to create multiple partitions with "/" aka root, /home and
    SWAP. I don't run Ubuntu but some of my friends do so I read here for
    them. The advantage of GTP is that all of your partitions except for
    a partition that will be assigned to the MBR can be created as Primary
    rather than logical. I advise you to read online as to the exact
    procedures you will need to follow. The subject to search on would
    be "Using GTP with MBR". Do you have a spinning rust disk or an SSD.
    SSD can offer significant speed ups and you could make it your
    boot disk and work space while the big 4 TB drive could be used
    for data storage and backups. You should investigate the possibility
    of updating your BIOS to gain added flexibility.

    Finding a computer users group is a good way to gain some access
    to good information if you have good crew.
    * I should say that this is the recommended procedure with PCLinusOS
    in 2026.
    Good Luck with this project.

    bliss- Dell 7730- PCLinuxOS 2026.08- Linux 6.18.44- Plasma 6.7.4

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Tue Aug 18 09:56:39 2026
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    On Tue, 8/18/2026 12:20 AM, Simon wrote:
    My desktop computer is 64-bit and has 8 GB of RAM. Unfortunately, it is still running an old BIOS and it is not possible to upgrade to UEFI. Consequently, the hard disk storage is limited to 2 TB.

    Is there any way I can bypass this limitation? In Windows, I could use GParted and MBR to partition the hard disk into two 2 TB partitions (on
    a 4TB HDD). Would I need to do something similar in Linux?

    The machine too slow to run Windows 11 and I have no plans to start
    using Windows 10 ever again. The best option for me is to install Ubuntu
    or Mint and use it for what I normally do. I can run dot net, MSSQL and
    VS Code on ubuntu so there is no need for windows on it.



    You can do a GPT disk, with a BIOS_Boot GRUB installation.

    https://support.scc.suse.com/s/kb/When-is-the-bios-boot-partition-required?language=en_US

    One of the problems, is getting this explained in plain English.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/705055/gpt-detected-please-create-a-bios-boot-partition

    Let's start by "doing it wrong". That's always a quick way to arrive at the right answer :-) OK ?

    If Chuckles The Clown enters the room, he uses a "one size fits all" approach in 2026,
    to installing software. He *insists* on doing a UEFI installation, even when he *knows*
    a machine is BIOS only. Now, how stupid is this ???

    +-----------------------+--------------------------+-------------------+
    | EFI System Partition | Single partition install | Swap Partition |
    | (ESP) | Slash partition EXT4 | for argument sake |
    +-----------------------+--------------------------+-------------------+

    The pig-headed installer is going to try to do that. Even if the LiveDVD senses the conditions are wrong, it still does that. Even though the LiveDVD KNOWS this is not going to boot! Now, how stupid can you be. There's no point installing, unless the install is going to be successful. To a first approximation.

    OK, now let us say we make a modification (manually, during install). The installer
    usually has a "Do something else" option. But, we cannot be sure the "Do something else"
    has all the features we need, to add the dotted-line partition. An alternative, is before using the installer, prepare the disk yourself using Gparted, and then
    the "form" of the disk is correct, and we only have to "tease" the installer when we actually use the installer.

    +-----------------------+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - +--------------------------+-------------------+
    | EFI System Partition | BIOS_Boot partition | Single partition install | Swap Partition |
    | (ESP) | Use flag to set GPT type | Slash partition EXT4 | for argument sake |
    +-----------------------+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - +--------------------------+-------------------+

    OK, maybe the installer *still* insists on doing it wrong. It refuses to ask GRUB to do a BIOS boot installation, using the extra partition as the magic sauce.
    It does a UEFI install. The dotted line partition, is not initialized by the installer
    at all.

    We use the Boot Repair DVD from Yannbuntu. With the properly prepared additional
    partition in place, we do a Boot Repair. The Boot Repair is not pig-headed.
    It sees the attempt on the BIOS machine, to do a BIOS boot, because that
    is all the machine has. It installs whatever is required, in the extra partition.

    As a first hint then, I can tell you that:

    1) What you want, can be done. GPT disk. Very large partition. Boot from BIOS.
    Now, if you're at all clumsy, you can push the materials too far to the right,
    and exceed whatever trick it uses to boot. If the boot materials are more than
    2.2TB from the right, it might not work. As shown above, we are not even remotely
    close to making it un-bootable. Only the swap is way off in the woods, and that's
    not a problem.

    2) Must install the relatively small extra partition, set the flag on it.
    Once *any* GRUB installer sees that, that partition has a meaning.
    On materials such as the Yannbuntu Boot Repair, it does not have an axe to
    grind, and it can see you want a BIOS boot of a GPT disk. If you do not install
    the small (one or two partitions) for the job, then *no* utility is smart enough
    in 2026, to add it for you, as the "industry" wants to support only UEFI boot.
    But the humans, with real computers, can't always do that.

    So, we try to tell them about the small partition required, the "bios_grub" flag
    in gparted, and how that partition functions as the "attractant" for a solution
    to attach itself to your stuff :-)

    Here is a picture, of a test, using a 16.04.7 DVD (that's the oldest DVD on this machine).
    The virtual machine settings does NOT have the EFI box ticked, this means the OS can
    only boot in BIOS mode. The picture depicts a GPT disk.

    That's a "demo", not exactly a recipe.

    I did it this way, as the current Ubuntu DVD would be hopelessly slow at installing and some of my hair would fall out. The older discs are a bit
    more efficient (less SNAP). This vintage of DVD, did the job we expected.

    [Picture]

    https://imgur.com/a/DIy4LDZ

    https://postimg.cc/dhgNJTFL
    https://i.postimg.cc/pdLwYD1Y/Ubuntu-Bios-Boot-Preparation.gif

    Paul

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Tue Aug 18 22:35:38 2026
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    On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 05:20:58 +0100, Simon wrote:

    My desktop computer is 64-bit and has 8 GB of RAM. Unfortunately, it
    is still running an old BIOS and it is not possible to upgrade to
    UEFI. Consequently, the hard disk storage is limited to 2 TB.

    I have had larger disks working on machines with old-style BIOS
    booting.

    The BIOS doesnrCOt know about partition tables, it only knows how to
    load and execute the boot sector. That code is supposed to take things
    from there.
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