• Software Updates

    From Don Spam's Reckless Son@hyperspace.flyover@vogon.gov.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Mon Apr 24 12:45:16 2023
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    This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
    It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
    started manually.

    In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
    the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
    This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
    update", annoying but no big deal.

    Now we come to the actual problem, there are times when I'd like to tell
    it "look again, now" but there appears to be no way to actually do this.

    My workaround is "sudo zypper patch --with-update" followed by a "2" for
    "Do Not Update the package I have frozen", and then accept whatever else
    it has to offer.
    I had thought of killing the Software Update process but I can't even
    find it using "ps aux". The package is "plasma5-pk-updates", the
    Summary says "Software Update Manager for Plasma". The File List for
    the package is not particularly helpful when it comes to identifying the running process either.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Mon Apr 24 13:32:55 2023
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    On 2023-04-24 12:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
    It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
    started manually.

    In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
    the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
    This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
    update", annoying but no big deal.

    Uninstall it.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Don Spam's Reckless Son@hyperspace.flyover@vogon.gov.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Tue Apr 25 08:45:28 2023
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    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2023-04-24 12:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
    It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
    started manually.

    In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
    the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
    This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
    update", annoying but no big deal.

    Uninstall it.


    Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
    and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully - better
    idea.
    I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a couple
    of minutes before I want to close the machine down.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Tue Apr 25 10:18:21 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.suse

    On 2023-04-25 08:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2023-04-24 12:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
    It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
    started manually.

    In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have set
    the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores that).
    This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I have an
    update", annoying but no big deal.

    Uninstall it.


    Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
    and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully - better idea.
    I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a couple
    of minutes before I want to close the machine down.

    I uninstall it, because I object to the default that every user can see
    and trigger updates. It also is not a good idea to have it by default on
    a laptop that can be used in metered Internet connections.

    Worse, Gnome had the trick to download the things in advance, by
    default, before you accepted them, with the goal of saving time when you decided to click "update".

    If you go the uninstall route, you also have mark it blacklisted or
    banned, or a dependency would install it again.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Don Spam's Reckless Son@hyperspace.flyover@vogon.gov.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Tue Apr 25 11:29:54 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.suse

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2023-04-25 08:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2023-04-24 12:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
    It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also be
    started manually.

    In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have
    set the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores
    that). This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I
    have an update", annoying but no big deal.

    Uninstall it.


    Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
    and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully -
    better idea.
    I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a couple
    of minutes before I want to close the machine down.

    I uninstall it, because I object to the default that every user can see
    and trigger updates. It also is not a good idea to have it by default on
    a laptop that can be used in metered Internet connections.

    Worse, Gnome had the trick to download the things in advance, by
    default, before you accepted them, with the goal of saving time when you decided to click "update".

    If you go the uninstall route, you also have mark it blacklisted or
    banned, or a dependency would install it again.


    One of the settings controls downloads over metered connections, the
    default is OFF. Since "every user" is "me" on this machine, I can live
    with the shame.
    It could be worse, Windows 10 (and presumably 11) don't even ask.
    Updates take several hours on my Windows machine, basically because I
    hardly ever boot Windows instead of Linux there.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Tue Apr 25 12:17:37 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.suse

    On 2023-04-25 11:29, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2023-04-25 08:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2023-04-24 12:45, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
    This is about the process which runs automatically under KDE.
    It can be configured to run Daily, Weekly or Monthly, it can also
    be started manually.

    In my case I have a package which I do not want to update (I have
    set the appropriate flag using YaST but "Software Updates" ignores
    that). This means it is sitting there a lot of the time saying "I
    have an update", annoying but no big deal.

    Uninstall it.


    Thank you for your helpful suggestion, I suppose I could go into YaST
    and see what the dependencies are but now I have a - hopefully -
    better idea.
    I have set the frequency to "Weekly" and will run it manually a
    couple of minutes before I want to close the machine down.

    I uninstall it, because I object to the default that every user can
    see and trigger updates. It also is not a good idea to have it by
    default on a laptop that can be used in metered Internet connections.

    Worse, Gnome had the trick to download the things in advance, by
    default, before you accepted them, with the goal of saving time when
    you decided to click "update".

    If you go the uninstall route, you also have mark it blacklisted or
    banned, or a dependency would install it again.


    One of the settings controls downloads over metered connections, the
    default is OFF.

    No such setting in XFCE.

    Refresh cache (always/every hour/every 8 hours/twice a day/*daily*/weekly/never)

    [ ] Use mobile connection

    Since "every user" is "me" on this machine, I can live
    with the shame.

    It is a matter of principle for me, but I do have some other users. Same person (me), but different purposes. Some times I lend a machine to a
    guest. It is pointless to have all of them doing the check.

    It could be worse, Windows 10 (and presumably 11) don't even ask.
    Updates take several hours on my Windows machine, basically because I
    hardly ever boot Windows instead of Linux there.

    In Windows 10 you can say that the connection is metered, somewhere.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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