• Are people using Leap 16.0?

    From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Mon Aug 3 20:13:18 2026
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    Having installed every version since SUSE 5.x, I have given up on Leap 16.0.

    The upgrade from 15.6 Leap worked, but I could not log in to the
    resulting system. At least the fallback to 15.6 Leap (Upgrade 16.0 to
    15.6) gave me a useable system again.
    Trying a fresh install of 16.0, it wanted to put everything on my 233GB
    SSD. Most of my system is on a 2TB rotating disc, Leap 16.0 did want to
    know. In the end I managed to convince it to accept my settings but the system was unuseable - this time I could not use the root password. I
    can't remember how I managed the fallback to 15.6 again (this was months
    ago) but probably by Upgrading 16.0 to 15.6 again. This time I had to
    repair more settings but it went well.

    I got involved in a discussion in the German-Language group and it looks
    as though my experiences are typical. At least I have a test system, my
    main system stayed on 15.6. The processors are AMD Ryzen, "test" is
    Ryzen 3 3200G and the "main" is Ryzen 5 4600G. Both support x86-64-v3 instructions.
    Both systems are KDE-based.

    Has anybody managed to get this to work? Most of the traffic in this NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.
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  • From Malcolm@malcolmlewis@linuxmail.org.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Mon Aug 3 13:53:20 2026
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    On Mon, 3 Aug 2026 20:13:18 +0200
    R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> wrote:

    Having installed every version since SUSE 5.x, I have given up on
    Leap 16.0.

    The upgrade from 15.6 Leap worked, but I could not log in to the
    resulting system. At least the fallback to 15.6 Leap (Upgrade 16.0
    to 15.6) gave me a useable system again.
    Trying a fresh install of 16.0, it wanted to put everything on my
    233GB SSD. Most of my system is on a 2TB rotating disc, Leap 16.0
    did want to know. In the end I managed to convince it to accept my
    settings but the system was unuseable - this time I could not use the
    root password. I can't remember how I managed the fallback to 15.6
    again (this was months ago) but probably by Upgrading 16.0 to 15.6
    again. This time I had to repair more settings but it went well.

    I got involved in a discussion in the German-Language group and it
    looks as though my experiences are typical. At least I have a test
    system, my main system stayed on 15.6. The processors are AMD Ryzen,
    "test" is Ryzen 3 3200G and the "main" is Ryzen 5 4600G. Both
    support x86-64-v3 instructions.
    Both systems are KDE-based.

    Has anybody managed to get this to work? Most of the traffic in this
    NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.
    Hi
    All good here with Leap 16.0 installs (three bare-metal and a few vm's),
    I have done no upgrades or migration as this was never the plan,
    migration tools were created after the fact.....

    But as you can see I'm a GNOME user (and Hyrpland) and Intel/Nvidia
    setups. My on the road laptop is AMD based older CPU/GPU it's running
    fine.

    It's been over a year now since I did all my installs some update/patch
    issues along the way, but no real issues.

    Some users had setup issues with Agama installer since it was so
    new, likewise a respin of Leap 16.0 was done recently to fix some of
    those issues users had.

    I'm also using the Agama installer for Tumbleweed installs along with
    profiles to do most of the configuration.
    --
    Cheers Malcolm -#-+-# (Linux Counter #276890)
    Tumbleweed 20260731 | GNOME Shell 50.3 | 7.1.5-1-default
    HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2695 V4 X36 @ 2.10GHz | Intel ARC A380
    up 1 day 17:33, 2 users, load average: 0.44, 0.29, 0.28

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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Mon Aug 3 23:24:39 2026
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    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in this NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked fine. I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Wed Aug 5 11:19:25 2026
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    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in this
    NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked fine. I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.


    As far as I remember, you don't use KDE.
    Someone reported similar problems with Fedora and KDE. I'm wondering if
    the problem could be there.
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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Wed Aug 5 22:11:52 2026
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    On 2026-08-05 11:19, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in this
    NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked fine.
    I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.


    As far as I remember, you don't use KDE.

    Correct, I don't. I use XFCE.

    Someone reported similar problems with Fedora and KDE.-a I'm wondering if the problem could be there.

    No idea. There are many people using Leap 16 with KDE Plasma or Gnome,
    though.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From grinch@grinch@somewhere.net to alt.os.linux.suse on Thu Aug 6 09:18:29 2026
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    On 05/08/2026 10:19, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in this
    NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked fine.
    I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.


    As far as I remember, you don't use KDE.
    Someone reported similar problems with Fedora and KDE.-a I'm wondering if the problem could be there.

    .
    I have 2 boxes on Tumbleweed and 2 boxes on Leap 16.All KDE with no
    problems.

    When ever I upgrade I always do a complete bare metal rebuild. Then
    restore my personal data from backups, when the rebuild is working
    properly.
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Thu Aug 6 15:22:57 2026
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    grinch wrote:
    On 05/08/2026 10:19, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in
    this NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked
    fine. I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.


    As far as I remember, you don't use KDE.
    Someone reported similar problems with Fedora and KDE.-a I'm wondering
    if the problem could be there.

    .
    I have 2 boxes on Tumbleweed and 2 boxes on Leap 16.All KDE with no problems.

    When ever I upgrade I always do a complete bare metal rebuild. Then
    restore my personal-a data from backups, when the rebuild is-a working properly.

    Thanks,
    Are your discs "real discs" or ssd(s)?
    The partitions on my discs are xfs (the critical ones) and ext4.
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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Thu Aug 6 15:29:52 2026
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    On 2026-08-06 15:22, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    The partitions on my discs are xfs (the critical ones) and ext4.

    I have root on ext4 and home on xfs.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From grinch@grinch@somewhere.net to alt.os.linux.suse on Fri Aug 7 08:37:48 2026
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    On 06/08/2026 14:22, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    grinch wrote:
    On 05/08/2026 10:19, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in
    this NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked
    fine. I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.


    As far as I remember, you don't use KDE.
    Someone reported similar problems with Fedora and KDE.-a I'm wondering
    if the problem could be there.

    .
    I have 2 boxes on Tumbleweed and 2 boxes on Leap 16.All KDE with no
    problems.

    When ever I upgrade I always do a complete bare metal rebuild. Then
    restore my personal-a data from backups, when the rebuild is-a working
    properly.

    Thanks,
    Are your discs "real discs" or ssd(s)?

    NVMe disks 1 tb in each of them.



    The partitions on my discs are xfs (the critical ones) and ext4.


    The partitions are BtrFS for tumbleweed and ext4 for the leap partitions
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Fri Aug 7 19:32:47 2026
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    grinch wrote:
    On 06/08/2026 14:22, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    grinch wrote:
    On 05/08/2026 10:19, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in >>>>>> this NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked
    fine. I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.


    As far as I remember, you don't use KDE.
    Someone reported similar problems with Fedora and KDE.-a I'm
    wondering if the problem could be there.

    .
    I have 2 boxes on Tumbleweed and 2 boxes on Leap 16.All KDE with no
    problems.

    When ever I upgrade I always do a complete bare metal rebuild. Then
    restore my personal-a data from backups, when the rebuild is-a working
    properly.

    Thanks,
    Are your discs "real discs" or ssd(s)?

    NVMe disks 1 tb in each of them.



    The partitions on my discs are xfs (the critical ones) and ext4.


    The partitions are BtrFS for tumbleweed and ext4 for the leap partitions

    Then I have absolutely no idea what the problem could be.
    I have tried multiple approaches over the last 9 (?) months and enough
    is enough - Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and
    Expecting Different Results (although that would not have applied if
    some update had fixed the problem).
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Fri Aug 7 20:10:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.suse

    On 2026-08-07 19:32, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    grinch wrote:
    On 06/08/2026 14:22, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    grinch wrote:
    On 05/08/2026 10:19, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-08-03 20:13, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
    Has anybody managed to get this to work?-a Most of the traffic in >>>>>>> this NG appears to be Tumbleweed users.

    Certainly. This laptop was upgraded from 15.6 to 16.0 and worked
    fine. I tested the procedure in advance on a virtual machine.


    As far as I remember, you don't use KDE.
    Someone reported similar problems with Fedora and KDE.-a I'm
    wondering if the problem could be there.

    .
    I have 2 boxes on Tumbleweed and 2 boxes on Leap 16.All KDE with no
    problems.

    When ever I upgrade I always do a complete bare metal rebuild. Then
    restore my personal-a data from backups, when the rebuild is-a working >>>> properly.

    Thanks,
    Are your discs "real discs" or ssd(s)?

    NVMe disks 1 tb in each of them.



    The partitions on my discs are xfs (the critical ones) and ext4.


    The partitions are BtrFS for tumbleweed and ext4 for the leap partitions

    Then I have absolutely no idea what the problem could be.
    I have tried multiple approaches over the last 9 (?) months and enough
    is enough - Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results (although that would not have applied if
    some update had fixed the problem).

    You can ask for the exact problem you are having in the user mail list,
    or in the web forum. You have to tell details and answer the questions.

    If it is a bug, you have to report it officially or it will never be solved.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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