• It worked!

    From philo@philo@novabbs.com (philo) to alt.os.linux.suse on Mon Jul 15 23:17:56 2024
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    I had a Win7 laptop sitting around for several years.

    Dual core 1.6 ghz with 2 gigs of RAM.

    Put in an SSD and loaded a full Gnome installation of SUSE.
    It went smoothly and the darn thing runs great .

    It will now be quite usable.
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  • From Robert@monstoor@spammedia.com to alt.os.linux.suse on Wed Jul 17 20:08:46 2024
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    On 16/07/2024 00:17, philo wrote:

    Put in an SSD and loaded a full Gnome installation of SUSE.
    It went smoothly and the darn thing runs great .

    It will now be quite usable.

    Well, it will be once you replace GNOME with KDE Plasma ;-)
    --
    Rob
    "I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational
    in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary
    to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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  • From philo@philo@novabbs.com (philo) to alt.os.linux.suse on Sun Aug 18 16:10:45 2024
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    All working well.
    When I did the installation I just used a default option.
    Decided to examine the partitioning today and noticed the boot partition
    is NTFS .
    What's the reason for that ?

    Also...there is very little in in. Why did the installer create a 40 gig partition by default?
    That seems excessive.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Sun Aug 18 22:15:08 2024
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    On 2024-08-18 18:10, philo wrote:
    All working well.
    When I did the installation I just used a default option.
    Decided to examine the partitioning today and noticed the boot partition
    is NTFS .
    What's the reason for that ?

    It must be an old partition. It is not the Linux boot partition.


    Also...there is very little in in. Why did the installer create a 40 gig partition by default?
    That seems excessive.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From philo@philo@novabbs.com (philo) to alt.os.linux.suse on Sun Aug 18 21:32:47 2024
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    Gparted listed it as a boot partition but it must have been from some
    previous Windows installation.

    Thanks
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  • From philo@philo@novabbs.com (philo) to alt.os.linux.suse on Fri Aug 23 19:00:26 2024
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    I ran a few more tests.
    If the drive is NTFS to begin with, the default installer will evidently
    assume one has Windows installed and shrink the partition...so that is
    why I ended up with NTFS.

    What I should have done was the custom installation.

    My fault for not paying attention.
    Still ,for a newbie wanting to dual boot...a nice safe way to do things.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Fri Aug 23 23:37:22 2024
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    On 2024-08-23 21:00, philo wrote:
    I ran a few more tests.
    If the drive is NTFS to begin with, the default installer will evidently assume one has Windows installed and shrink the partition...so that is
    why I ended up with NTFS.

    What I should have done was the custom installation.

    My fault for not paying attention.
    Still ,for a newbie wanting to dual boot...a nice safe way to do things.

    There is a lot of customization possible in the installer, but you have
    to know it.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From philo@philo@novabbs.com (philo) to alt.os.linux.suse on Sat Aug 24 03:20:16 2024
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    Very easy to use.
    As mentioned I was not paying attention.
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to alt.os.linux.suse on Sat Aug 24 07:39:48 2024
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    philo@novabbs.com (philo) Wrote in message:

    I ran a few more tests.
    If the drive is NTFS to begin with, the default installer will evidently assume one has Windows installed and shrink the partition...so that is
    why I ended up with NTFS.

    What I should have done was the custom installation.

    My fault for not paying attention.
    Still ,for a newbie wanting to dual boot...a nice safe way to do things.


    I did a new installation of Tumbleweed yesterday. The box has
    Win11 on an NVMe. I added an old SATA SSD (which had DOS
    partitions) which I cleared by writing a GPT partition table to
    it using gparted.

    I intended to let the TW installer suggest partitions and then
    modify them. But its only suggestion was to shrink the NTFS
    partition so I had to build SDA myself by adding the partitions
    one by one. At the end it wasn't happy with my /boot/efi
    partition size so I had to do the whole thing twice.

    Maybe I should have added a partition - swap say - onto the disk
    with gparted and it would then have offered to install into the
    unallocated space.

    I wonder if - had that been a new SSD - it would have offered to
    use it?

    Anyway, the install (from DVD) was trouble-free. I've used Leap
    and its antecedents for years. I'm testing whether I can get on
    with TW.
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    Remove numerics from my email address.
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  • From philo@philo@privacy.net to alt.os.linux.suse on Sat Aug 24 14:06:20 2024
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    On 8/24/24 01:39, Dave Royal wrote:
    philo@novabbs.com (philo) Wrote in message:

    I ran a few more tests.
    If the drive is NTFS to begin with, the default installer will evidently
    assume one has Windows installed and shrink the partition...so that is
    why I ended up with NTFS.

    What I should have done was the custom installation.

    My fault for not paying attention.
    Still ,for a newbie wanting to dual boot...a nice safe way to do things.


    I did a new installation of Tumbleweed yesterday. The box has
    Win11 on an NVMe. I added an old SATA SSD (which had DOS
    partitions) which I cleared by writing a GPT partition table to
    it using gparted.

    I intended to let the TW installer suggest partitions and then
    modify them. But its only suggestion was to shrink the NTFS
    partition so I had to build SDA myself by adding the partitions
    one by one. At the end it wasn't happy with my /boot/efi
    partition size so I had to do the whole thing twice.

    Maybe I should have added a partition - swap say - onto the disk
    with gparted and it would then have offered to install into the
    unallocated space.

    I wonder if - had that been a new SSD - it would have offered to
    use it?

    Anyway, the install (from DVD) was trouble-free. I've used Leap
    and its antecedents for years. I'm testing whether I can get on
    with TW.

    That's why I'm using small drives to create "test" installs.

    If you only had to do it twice...that's not all that bad

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux.suse on Sat Aug 31 03:37:41 2024
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    On 2024-08-24 08:39, Dave Royal wrote:
    philo@novabbs.com (philo) Wrote in message:

    I ran a few more tests.
    If the drive is NTFS to begin with, the default installer will evidently
    assume one has Windows installed and shrink the partition...so that is
    why I ended up with NTFS.

    What I should have done was the custom installation.

    My fault for not paying attention.
    Still ,for a newbie wanting to dual boot...a nice safe way to do things.


    I did a new installation of Tumbleweed yesterday. The box has
    Win11 on an NVMe. I added an old SATA SSD (which had DOS
    partitions) which I cleared by writing a GPT partition table to
    it using gparted.

    I intended to let the TW installer suggest partitions and then
    modify them. But its only suggestion was to shrink the NTFS
    partition so I had to build SDA myself by adding the partitions
    one by one. At the end it wasn't happy with my /boot/efi
    partition size so I had to do the whole thing twice.

    Maybe I should have added a partition - swap say - onto the disk
    with gparted and it would then have offered to install into the
    unallocated space.

    I wonder if - had that been a new SSD - it would have offered to
    use it?

    Anyway, the install (from DVD) was trouble-free. I've used Leap
    and its antecedents for years. I'm testing whether I can get on
    with TW.

    At least on Leap the partitioner has an expert option to tell it what
    disk to use for the proposal.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to alt.os.linux.suse on Sat Aug 31 08:40:10 2024
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    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

    On 2024-08-24 08:39, Dave Royal wrote:
    philo@novabbs.com (philo) Wrote in message:

    I ran a few more tests.
    If the drive is NTFS to begin with, the default installer will evidently >>> assume one has Windows installed and shrink the partition...so that is
    why I ended up with NTFS.

    What I should have done was the custom installation.

    My fault for not paying attention.
    Still ,for a newbie wanting to dual boot...a nice safe way to do things. >>>

    I did a new installation of Tumbleweed yesterday. The box has
    Win11 on an NVMe. I added an old SATA SSD (which had DOS
    partitions) which I cleared by writing a GPT partition table to
    it using gparted.

    I intended to let the TW installer suggest partitions and then
    modify them. But its only suggestion was to shrink the NTFS
    partition so I had to build SDA myself by adding the partitions
    one by one. At the end it wasn't happy with my /boot/efi
    partition size so I had to do the whole thing twice.

    Maybe I should have added a partition - swap say - onto the disk
    with gparted and it would then have offered to install into the
    unallocated space.

    I wonder if - had that been a new SSD - it would have offered to
    use it?

    Anyway, the install (from DVD) was trouble-free. I've used Leap
    and its antecedents for years. I'm testing whether I can get on
    with TW.

    At least on Leap the partitioner has an expert option to tell it what
    disk to use for the proposal.

    I was surprised. The install process was very familiar from Leap.
    I would have expected the partitioner to be the same. It might
    have been a quirk of the bios: I subsequently had to relax secure
    boot restrictions to get it to boot from SDA.

    The TW installer created the user 'david' in group 'david'
    instead of group 'users' as I have in Leap (thought that account
    was created years ago so Leap may do that too). I've left it
    like that for now.

    When installing the zoom rpm yast managed to create ~/.config/ibus
    owned by root! Easily fixed. That's the only problem I've had so
    far.

    I might try Suse Aeon. That needs it's own volume though.
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    Remove numerics from my email address.
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