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I want to do a complete backup of Tumbleweed on my Desktop Linux Machine
to an external large Hard Drive. TW is the only system on the Desktop Hard Drive installed in 2020 (Release 20200716)

What backup software do you suggest for this?
My goal is that if there is a glitch, I can reproduce the entire system as before the glitch.

Paul

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On 17 May 2024 19:10:57 GMT, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

I want to do a complete backup of Tumbleweed on my Desktop Linux Machine
to an external large Hard Drive. TW is the only system on the Desktop
Hard Drive installed in 2020 (Release 20200716)

What backup software do you suggest for this?
My goal is that if there is a glitch, I can reproduce the entire system
as before the glitch.

Paul

In the meantime . . . I did some searching on the subject and came up with "RescueZilla" which appears to do what I want - a complete image of the harddrive with the ability to restore it is necessary.

I may have answered my own question . . .
I haven't tried it yet so any comments would be welcome.
Paul
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On 2024-05-18 02:41, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 17 May 2024 19:10:57 GMT, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

I want to do a complete backup of Tumbleweed on my Desktop Linux Machine
to an external large Hard Drive. TW is the only system on the Desktop
Hard Drive installed in 2020 (Release 20200716)

What backup software do you suggest for this?
My goal is that if there is a glitch, I can reproduce the entire system
as before the glitch.

Paul

In the meantime . . . I did some searching on the subject and came up with "RescueZilla" which appears to do what I want - a complete image of the harddrive with the ability to restore it is necessary.

I may have answered my own question . . .
I haven't tried it yet so any comments would be welcome.

I use my own scripts.

First, I install Linux in a small partition of an external disk. The
rest of the disk is one large partition, using encrypted (LUKS) and
compressed btrfs filesystem.

Booting this system, I copy the partition tables as seen by partitioning software, and make images with dd of some partitions. Of /home and /data partitions I do rsync copies.

If this method interests you I can paste the scripts.
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Cheers, Carlos.

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On 5/17/24 15:10, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

I want to do a complete backup of Tumbleweed on my Desktop Linux Machine
to an external large Hard Drive. TW is the only system on the Desktop Hard Drive installed in 2020 (Release 20200716)

What backup software do you suggest for this?
My goal is that if there is a glitch, I can reproduce the entire system as before the glitch.

Paul

I keep my OS partitions below 100gb (nowadays
using 80gb) which facilitates backup files that
are not too big. So about once a week I make an
image of an OS partition like /dev/sda3 to a data
partition like /osbackups with:

dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/osbackups/OS-3-2024-05-18.dd bs=16M status=progress

No software needed! OS-3-2024-05-18.dd is my
output file name, it can be anything. To recover
I boot another OS or a live dvd to get to a cLi
prompt, mount my data @ /somepath and:

dd if=/somepath/osbackups/OS-3-2024-05-18.dd of=/dev/sda3 bs=16M status=progress

for both ops /dev/sda3 must be the correct dev-name
and must not be mounted. If this sounds too explicit
it's for others who might google for the info.






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On Sat, 18 May 2024 12:01:15 -0400, bad sector wrote:

On 5/17/24 15:10, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

I want to do a complete backup of Tumbleweed on my Desktop Linux
Machine to an external large Hard Drive. TW is the only system on the
Desktop Hard Drive installed in 2020 (Release 20200716)

What backup software do you suggest for this?
My goal is that if there is a glitch, I can reproduce the entire system
as before the glitch.

Paul

First, thanks to those responding. I will take your wisdom to use when I
set up a new system. It makes a lot of sense! I originally installed
from a Tumbleweed download DVD and did not deviate in the ways you folks directed. I blindly let it "do it's thing." Next time I will wisely heed
your advice.
I did get, I believe, a good image of the Tumbleweed HD with
"RescueZilla". Of course I won't know until I have to re-install from
that image.

Second, When I ran into trouble with an upgrade back in March, losing my desktop, etc., Carlos helped me greatly. The system was rescued. However, since then, I no longer get reports of available upgrades -- something got "turned off." When I realized this I did a "zypper dup" to discovered I
had 4000+ needed upgrades. This scared me. This was when I posted help in Backups. I just did the 4000+ upgrade with much fear and intrepidation.
It did come out fine. YEA!
My question is: What do I need to do to get back to being informed of
upgrades by popup when I log in? They used to come regularly.

Paul


Thanks again for your valuable help . . . I'm learning
Paul

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On 5/20/24 16:58, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On Sat, 18 May 2024 12:01:15 -0400, bad sector wrote:

On 5/17/24 15:10, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

I want to do a complete backup of Tumbleweed on my Desktop Linux
Machine to an external large Hard Drive. TW is the only system on the
Desktop Hard Drive installed in 2020 (Release 20200716)

What backup software do you suggest for this?
My goal is that if there is a glitch, I can reproduce the entire system
as before the glitch.

Paul

First, thanks to those responding. I will take your wisdom to use when I
set up a new system. It makes a lot of sense! I originally installed
from a Tumbleweed download DVD and did not deviate in the ways you folks directed. I blindly let it "do it's thing." Next time I will wisely heed your advice.
I did get, I believe, a good image of the Tumbleweed HD with
"RescueZilla". Of course I won't know until I have to re-install from
that image.

Second, When I ran into trouble with an upgrade back in March, losing my desktop, etc., Carlos helped me greatly. The system was rescued. However, since then, I no longer get reports of available upgrades -- something got "turned off." When I realized this I did a "zypper dup" to discovered I
had 4000+ needed upgrades. This scared me. This was when I posted help in Backups. I just did the 4000+ upgrade with much fear and intrepidation.
It did come out fine. YEA!
My question is: What do I need to do to get back to being informed of upgrades by popup when I log in? They used to come regularly.

Couldn't say, I avoid automation :-)

Thanks again for your valuable help . . . I'm learning

We all are.


There are probably more linuxnauts who disagree with me but to my way of thinking a backup is not a backup if it needs any part of the original
to be recovered, or by extension any software as such with which it was
made. Both dd and rsync are bash commands, or programettes, try them,
practice them and it's a walk in the park, you'll never look back.



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On 2024-05-20 22:58, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On Sat, 18 May 2024 12:01:15 -0400, bad sector wrote:

On 5/17/24 15:10, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Second, When I ran into trouble with an upgrade back in March, losing my desktop, etc., Carlos helped me greatly. The system was rescued. However, since then, I no longer get reports of available upgrades -- something got "turned off." When I realized this I did a "zypper dup" to discovered I
had 4000+ needed upgrades. This scared me. This was when I posted help in Backups. I just did the 4000+ upgrade with much fear and intrepidation.
It did come out fine. YEA!
My question is: What do I need to do to get back to being informed of upgrades by popup when I log in? They used to come regularly.

You will not get that information in TW.

The automated system can not tell you, because there are almost no
updates, meaning, the update repository is empty.

Instead, you periodically do "zypper dup". You decide when. I recommend
doing them only when you can allow a full reboot.
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Cheers, Carlos.

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On 5/21/24 18:12, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2024-05-20 22:58, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On Sat, 18 May 2024 12:01:15 -0400, bad sector wrote:

On 5/17/24 15:10, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Second, When I ran into trouble with an upgrade back in March, losing my
desktop, etc., Carlos helped me greatly.-a The system was rescued.
However,
since then, I no longer get reports of available upgrades -- something
got
"turned off."-a When I realized this I did a "zypper dup" to discovered I
had 4000+ needed upgrades.-a This scared me. This was when I posted
help in
Backups.-a I just did the 4000+ upgrade with much fear and intrepidation.
It did come out fine. YEA!
My question is: What do I need to do to get back to being informed of
upgrades by popup when I log in?-a They used to come regularly.

You will not get that information in TW.

The automated system can not tell you, because there are almost no
updates, meaning, the update repository is empty.

Instead, you periodically do "zypper dup". You decide when. I recommend doing them only when you can allow a full reboot.

I don't want to argue but I do get the "updates are available" popup on
my laptop and desktop tumbleweeds with an option to view them which I
usually decline to do 'zypper dup' the spanish way instead (emanuel).






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On Thu, 23 May 2024 13:08:20 -0400, bad sector wrote:

On 5/21/24 18:12, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2024-05-20 22:58, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On Sat, 18 May 2024 12:01:15 -0400, bad sector wrote:

On 5/17/24 15:10, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

You will not get that information in TW.

The automated system can not tell you, because there are almost no
updates, meaning, the update repository is empty.

Instead, you periodically do "zypper dup". You decide when. I recommend
doing them only when you can allow a full reboot.

I don't want to argue but I do get the "updates are available" popup on
my laptop and desktop tumbleweeds with an option to view them which I
usually decline to do 'zypper dup' the spanish way instead (emanuel).

I just noticed on that massive update I did last week that two new icons appear on the lower right corner of my desktop, one (^) a circle with an
up arrow that sets forth any updates when clicked; and two, another circle like a sun, half white/half black that is for screen brigtness. They
appear next to the Time/Date (I guess as widgets - although I did not set
them up) and appeared with the last "zypper dup."

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