• Survey: What do you run first after you boot Slackware?

    From Joseph Rosevear@Mail@JoesLife.org to alt.os.linux.slackware on Thu Jun 25 18:44:57 2026
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    I run, as root, a backup script with this invocation:

    /go_back [cheech|chong]

    For example, this morning I ran:

    /go_back chong

    (I have two backup hard drives. Each has a single partition with a
    volume label of "cheech" or "chong". I rotate them monthly, keeping the
    other one "offsite".)
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  • From Sylvain Robitaille@syl@therockgarden.ca to alt.os.linux.slackware on Thu Jun 25 21:19:47 2026
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    initd ...
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    Sylvain Robitaille syl@therockgarden.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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  • From Joseph Rosevear@Mail@JoesLife.org to alt.os.linux.slackware on Thu Jun 25 22:36:50 2026
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    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:19:47 GMT, Sylvain Robitaille wrote:

    initd ...

    syl@therockgarden.ca wrote:
    initd ...

    Do you run a script called initd? Manually, or is it automated?

    Perhaps you mean that the machines you administer are configured to run
    initd when they boot? I hadn't considered the system administration
    point of view. If I don't run the backups manually, they don't get done.

    I have other tools too that I run daily. For example, after running
    go_back I start X using:

    /mnt/joe_root/begin startx

    This configures an environment which is inherited by X.

    -Joe
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  • From Sylvain Robitaille@syl@therockgarden.ca to alt.os.linux.slackware on Fri Jun 26 21:38:32 2026
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    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 21:19:47 GMT, Sylvain Robitaille wrote:

    initd ...

    Hrmmmm ... I *should* have said "init", not "initd" ... brain fart?


    On 2026-06-25, Joseph Rosevear replied:

    Do you run a script called initd? Manually, or is it automated?

    It's automated. It is, in fact, the first process run on "normal"
    Linux, and traditionally, Unix systems. This is notwithstanding the systemd-based systems which have replaced init with, effectively,
    a different kind of init, and the silly Ubuntu thing that predated
    systemd ... (scratches head) ... oh yeah, "upstart".

    Perhaps you mean that the machines you administer are configured
    to run initd when they boot?

    They indeed are ... That (well, "init") is what the Linux kernel
    looks to run once it boots.

    I hadn't considered the system administration point of view. If I
    don't run the backups manually, they don't get done.

    Amusingly, I would word that same sentiment as "if I don't schedule
    the backups to run automatically, they don't get done."

    I have other tools too that I run daily. For example, after running
    go_back I start X using:

    /mnt/joe_root/begin startx

    My workstation and laptops do boot into run-level 4, where X starts up.
    I'm pretty sure that I don't have any special environment setup prior
    to X starting, but I'd have to review local documentation to say that
    with complete certainty.

    Now. to answer the question that I *think* you were really asking,
    I'm afraid that it's not really any more informative than my "init"
    answer, though it's just as truthful: whatever the system in question
    was running just prior to my shutting it down. The systems have their purposes: mail server, web server, etc. When they're booted, they
    go right back to serving those purposes. The workstation and laptops
    go back to running X and waiting for me to ... do whatever I'm going
    to do next.

    In my case, these systems are up 24x7, reboot only for patch cycles,
    and the majority of them (save for a couple of virtuals running
    "other" Linux) are running Slackware, so there isn't really a "when
    I boot into Slackware".

    It occurred to me, only after reading the content of your original
    post, that you were probably aiming the question at folks who aren't
    running Slackware Linux 24x7 ... I chose to be a smart-ass and answer
    anyway ...
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  • From Lumin Etherlight@lumin+usenet@etherlight.link to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sat Jun 27 21:41:56 2026
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    After the typical system services, local
    mail server (postfix), news server (leafnode), my
    personal Wireguard VPNs, and other rc.local stuff,
    I usually run startx, booting to dwm, then follow
    that with st instances running GNU screen, then an
    Emacs server instance. I usually also start music
    through some bash functions that wrap mpv. Check
    my plain-text task list and journal in Emacs, pick
    something I want to do, and start chugging along.
    Nowadays, I mostly use my personal text editor, an
    ed-like written from scratch, more than Emacs, and
    I use my fork of suckless surf for web browsing,
    but I do less and less of that in recent days. I
    still use Emacs, for GNUS mail and news, and for
    the one-off crazy macro here and there. I connect
    to a VPS that runs irssi for IRC access. SSH is
    definitely something I use a lot, to administer
    dozens of other Slackware machines.

    This accounts for most of my Slackware usage :-)
    (and computer usage in general).


    Best Regards,
    Lumin Etherlight
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  • From Joseph Rosevear@Mail@JoesLife.org to alt.os.linux.slackware on Mon Jun 29 00:17:48 2026
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    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 21:38:32 GMT, Sylvain Robitaille wrote:

    ...

    My workstation and laptops do boot into run-level 4, where X starts up.
    I'm pretty sure that I don't have any special environment setup prior to
    X starting, but I'd have to review local documentation to say that with complete certainty.

    I use run-level 3. Configuring the environment before starting X is
    handy. For example my MWM configuration includes a specification that
    causes "Setup" to appear in the root menu (available by right-clicking
    the desktop).

    Clicking "Setup" in the root menu invokes function wm_setup which, thanks
    to prior execution of /mnt/joe_root/begin, is available in the current environment.

    Now. to answer the question that I *think* you were really asking,
    I'm afraid that it's not really any more informative than my "init"
    answer, though it's just as truthful: whatever the system in question
    was running just prior to my shutting it down. The systems have their purposes: mail server, web server, etc. When they're booted, they go
    right back to serving those purposes. The workstation and laptops go
    back to running X and waiting for me to ... do whatever I'm going to do
    next.

    In my case, these systems are up 24x7, reboot only for patch cycles, and
    the majority of them (save for a couple of virtuals running "other"
    Linux) are running Slackware, so there isn't really a "when I boot into Slackware".

    It occurred to me, only after reading the content of your original post,
    that you were probably aiming the question at folks who aren't running Slackware Linux 24x7 ... I chose to be a smart-ass and answer anyway
    ...

    That's OK, I deserved it. Not everyone boots daily like I do. I can understand that. With a fleet of machines to manage, you need global solutions.

    Yet other paradigms might have use cases. For example, my wife and I currently run a tweaked-clone version of Slackware from a flash drive on
    our respective machines.
    See https://rosevearsoftware.com/products/sam/libraries/Zombie

    -Joe
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  • From Joseph Rosevear@Mail@JoesLife.org to alt.os.linux.slackware on Mon Jun 29 01:02:50 2026
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    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 21:41:56 +0300, Lumin Etherlight wrote:

    After the typical system services, local
    mail server (postfix), news server (leafnode), my personal Wireguard
    VPNs, and other rc.local stuff,
    I usually run startx, booting to dwm, then follow that with st
    instances running GNU screen, then an Emacs server instance. I
    usually also start music through some bash functions that wrap mpv.
    Check my plain-text task list and journal in Emacs, pick something I
    want to do, and start chugging along.
    Nowadays, I mostly use my personal text editor, an ed-like written
    from scratch, more than Emacs, and I use my fork of suckless surf
    for web browsing,
    but I do less and less of that in recent days. I still use Emacs,
    for GNUS mail and news, and for the one-off crazy macro here and
    there. I connect to a VPS that runs irssi for IRC access. SSH is
    definitely something I use a lot, to administer dozens of other
    Slackware machines.

    This accounts for most of my Slackware usage :-)
    (and computer usage in general).


    Best Regards,
    Lumin Etherlight

    Hey, Lumin!

    Thanks for your input. It was interesting to read about how you use Slackware. For example, I had never heard of suckless software, st or
    GNU screen. Interesting. And I was thinking about IRC. I actually used
    it a few times. Any good Slackware information there? My editor of
    choice is joe (Joe's Own Editor), which by coincidence is also my name.
    But I like it. Fast and easy.

    And I had to look up "VPS". I didn't know there was such a thing.

    Thanks again!

    -Joe
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