• Warning, atop has issues(?)

    From John McCue@jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com to alt.os.linux.slackware on Wed Mar 26 01:31:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    Hi All

    Ran across this:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43477057

    Seems atop may be 'bad', I noticed there is a
    slackbuild for atop.

    Below from
    https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/25/atop/

    You might want to stop running atop

    My life as a mercenary sysadmin can be
    interesting. Sometimes I find things, and
    sometimes I hear things. Now and then I say
    things.

    Right now, I think it's probably best if you
    uninstall atop. I don't mean just stopping it, but
    actually keep it from being executed.

    I'm not talking about the OG top, or htop, iftop,
    or anything else with a "top" name. Just atop.

    I can go into why another time.
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    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars
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  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.os.linux.slackware on Wed Mar 26 22:05:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    If one wants people to stop using something, one needs to explain why,
    else, why should we (I dont, never have used atop) without justifiable reason.

    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 01:31:46 +0000, John McCue wrote:

    Hi All

    Ran across this:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43477057

    Seems atop may be 'bad', I noticed there is a slackbuild for atop.

    Below from https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/25/atop/

    You might want to stop running atop

    My life as a mercenary sysadmin can be interesting. Sometimes I find
    things, and sometimes I hear things. Now and then I say things.

    Right now, I think it's probably best if you uninstall atop. I don't
    mean just stopping it, but actually keep it from being executed.

    I'm not talking about the OG top, or htop, iftop, or anything else
    with a "top" name. Just atop.

    I can go into why another time.

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  • From Auric__@not.my.real@email.address to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sat Mar 29 23:49:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 01:31:46 +0000, John McCue wrote:

    Hi All

    Ran across this:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43477057

    Seems atop may be 'bad', I noticed there is a slackbuild for atop.

    Below from https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/25/atop/
    [snip]

    ...and then noel wrote:

    If one wants people to stop using something, one needs to explain why,
    else, why should we (I dont, never have used atop) without justifiable reason.

    [Please don't top-post.]

    Rachel published a very-slightly-less-vague follow-up:
    https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/26/atop/

    She analogizes, still without actually giving *any* technical information whatsoever, but I gather that she (or someone?) found a heap exploit.
    --
    The weak will perish.
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  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sun Mar 30 14:28:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware


    dont top post? who the fuck do you think you are, you come in here, some johnny come lately newbie, expecting people to follow links, like thats
    not been used by vermin malware scum before and then trying to tell us
    how to post, piss off moron.




    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 23:49:37 +0000, Auric__ wrote:

    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 01:31:46 +0000, John McCue wrote:

    Hi All

    Ran across this:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43477057

    Seems atop may be 'bad', I noticed there is a slackbuild for atop.

    Below from https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/25/atop/
    [snip]

    ...and then noel wrote:

    If one wants people to stop using something, one needs to explain why,
    else, why should we (I dont, never have used atop) without justifiable
    reason.

    [Please don't top-post.]

    Rachel published a very-slightly-less-vague follow-up:
    https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/26/atop/

    She analogizes, still without actually giving *any* technical
    information whatsoever, but I gather that she (or someone?) found a heap exploit.

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  • From Auric__@not.my.real@email.address to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sun Mar 30 05:50:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 23:49:37 +0000, Auric__ wrote:

    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 01:31:46 +0000, John McCue wrote:

    Hi All

    Ran across this:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43477057

    Seems atop may be 'bad', I noticed there is a slackbuild for atop.

    Below from https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/25/atop/
    [snip]

    ...and then noel wrote:

    If one wants people to stop using something, one needs to explain why,
    else, why should we (I dont, never have used atop) without justifiable
    reason.

    [Please don't top-post.]

    Rachel published a very-slightly-less-vague follow-up:
    https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/26/atop/
    [snip]

    ...then noel spouted:

    dont top post?

    A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    A: Top-posting.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

    who the fuck do you think you are, you come in here, some
    johnny come lately newbie,

    I've been in this group on-and-off since 2007. I've been on Usenet since the 90s. I've been online since the WWW was in diapers. "Doesn't post very
    often" doesn't mean "new".

    expecting people to follow links, like thats
    not been used by vermin malware scum before

    I don't "expect" you to do anything. You may note that the original post by Mr. McCue included two links; is he also "vermin malware scum"? My link happens to be the same site as his second link.

    If you don't want to follow my link, then don't.

    and then trying to tell us
    how to post, piss off moron.

    Ah, yes, the impending death of netiquette creeps ever closer.
    --
    - Ok, nutjob.
    - I'm not a nutjob, I'm you're wife!
    - You can be both.
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  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sun Mar 30 21:22:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    That wasnt a question moron, it was rhetorical...

    and only '07 in here, ahh you must ber Dan C , he dissapreaed around that time, witness protection eh. But as Shania says "that dont impress me
    much" half of us here have been here since the 90's, and 2400bps modems.
    self appointed net-cops arent welcome, you either read a post or you
    dont, since me top posting triggers your OCD, best you dont read mine, or
    go cry to someone who gives a fuck.



    On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 05:50:43 +0000, Auric__ wrote:

    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 23:49:37 +0000, Auric__ wrote:

    On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 01:31:46 +0000, John McCue wrote:

    Hi All

    Ran across this:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43477057

    Seems atop may be 'bad', I noticed there is a slackbuild for atop.

    Below from https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/25/atop/
    [snip]

    ...and then noel wrote:

    If one wants people to stop using something, one needs to explain
    why,
    else, why should we (I dont, never have used atop) without
    justifiable reason.

    [Please don't top-post.]

    Rachel published a very-slightly-less-vague follow-up:
    https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2025/03/26/atop/
    [snip]

    ...then noel spouted:

    dont top post?

    A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    A: Top-posting.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet and in e-mail?

    who the fuck do you think you are, you come in here, some johnny come
    lately newbie,

    I've been in this group on-and-off since 2007. I've been on Usenet since
    the 90s. I've been online since the WWW was in diapers. "Doesn't post
    very often" doesn't mean "new".

    expecting people to follow links, like thats not been used by vermin
    malware scum before

    I don't "expect" you to do anything. You may note that the original post
    by Mr. McCue included two links; is he also "vermin malware scum"? My
    link happens to be the same site as his second link.

    If you don't want to follow my link, then don't.

    and then trying to tell us how to post, piss off moron.

    Ah, yes, the impending death of netiquette creeps ever closer.

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  • From John McCue@jmccue@magnetar.jmcunx.com to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sun Mar 30 14:27:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:

    <snip>

    Please read this to learn how to post on USENET, pay
    particular attention to section "Replying To Threads".

    Quote:
    > Even worse is putting this reply at the top :-)

    https://www.slack.net/~ant/usenet-posts.html

    Thanks
    --
    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars
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  • From Edward McGuire@metaed@metaed.com to alt.os.linux.slackware on Mon Mar 31 14:35:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On 2025-03-30, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> said something unimportant and we do not hear his words.

    *plonk*
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  • From Rich@rich@example.invalid to alt.os.linux.slackware on Mon Mar 31 14:51:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On 2025-03-30, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> said something unimportant and we do not hear his words.

    plonk
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  • From Auric__@not.my.real@email.address to alt.os.linux.slackware on Tue Apr 1 07:47:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    noel wrote:

    ahh you must ber Dan C

    No. But you remind me of him.
    --
    Problem not solved, but acceptably worked around.
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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@alexm0n@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.slackware on Wed Apr 2 04:44:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 07:47:10 -0000 (UTC), Auric__ wrote:

    noel wrote:

    ahh you must ber Dan C

    No. But you remind me of him.

    stop posting no-value gabage you gaggle of f'n losers
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  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sat Apr 5 21:04:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 07:47:10 +0000, Auric__ wrote:

    noel wrote:

    ahh you must ber Dan C

    No. But you remind me of him.

    awww shucks... I'll take that as a compliment, because he too never
    tolerated self appointed chest beating fuckwits who think they can appear
    out of nowhere and try bully others into typing how they want..
    aint ever gonna happen, you got a problem with it thats YOUR problem,
    filter me, coz I guarantee 2 things...
    1 - I wont be changing
    2 - I wont be losing a wink of sleep for being killfiled.
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  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sat Apr 5 21:04:30 2025
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    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 04:44:58 +0000, Alexander Grotewohl wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 07:47:10 -0000 (UTC), Auric__ wrote:

    noel wrote:

    ahh you must ber Dan C

    No. But you remind me of him.

    stop posting no-value gabage you gaggle of f'n losers

    piss off cockjockey
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  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sat Apr 5 21:07:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 14:51:43 +0000, Rich wrote:

    On 2025-03-30, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> said something unimportant
    and we do not hear his words.

    plonk


    lol, you stupid dumb cunt, if your gonna nymshift, at least alter your clients, bylines, and news server, total fail, both you and your ghost accounts, hahaha you fuckin loser.

    kinda funny tho, thinking someone you dont know never spoken to never
    met, would give a flying fuck if you killfiled them or not.
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  • From Auric__@not.my.real@email.address to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sun Apr 6 02:11:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    noel wrote:

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 07:47:10 +0000, Auric__ wrote:

    noel wrote:

    ahh you must ber Dan C

    No. But you remind me of him.

    awww shucks... I'll take that as a compliment, because he too never
    tolerated self appointed chest beating fuckwits who think they can appear
    out of nowhere and try bully others into typing how they want..

    Last I checked, requesting that one follow long-established rules of
    etiquette isn't bullying, but whatever, you do you.

    aint ever gonna happen, you got a problem with it thats YOUR problem,
    filter me, coz I guarantee 2 things...
    1 - I wont be changing
    2 - I wont be losing a wink of sleep for being killfiled.

    I'm not killfiling you.

    Sometimes the assholes are the most entertaining people present.

    But I do note that you didn't top-post; thank you.
    --
    You've been smiling a lot lately,
    and everyone knows a smile is fate's idea of a "kick me" sign.
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  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.os.linux.slackware on Sun Apr 6 13:30:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.slackware

    On Sun, 06 Apr 2025 02:11:53 +0000, Auric__ wrote:

    Last I checked, requesting that one follow long-established rules of etiquette isn't bullying, but whatever, you do you.

    long standing my arse, we had droids like you and the ghosts in here and
    every newsgroup for decades trying to bully people into doing what you
    want, it never worked then, it wont work now. it might have partially
    once upon a time in the early 90's, but too many netcops pissing everyone
    off ensured a failure of those atempts, the "netiquette " was a carry
    over into usenet from Fidonet, and it often didn't work there either.

    aint ever gonna happen, you got a problem with it thats YOUR problem,
    filter me, coz I guarantee 2 things...
    1 - I wont be changing 2 - I wont be losing a wink of sleep for being
    killfiled.

    I'm not killfiling you.

    your choice, you can still proceed to ignore my posts - since you object
    to how they are formatted, because any attempt to dictate is going to
    fall on deaf ears.

    Sometimes the assholes are the most entertaining people present.

    absolutely, and everyone loves to piss over self appointed netcops, which
    were more known as net-n...'s but times change and sensitivities due to a certain era change too, so I respect that and ordinarily wont call your
    type, that term - who think they can bully others into their ways.


    But I do note that you didn't top-post; thank you.

    to think I only top post is a dumb mistake on your and the ghosts part,
    but I will top post if I feel like making an overall quick comment, as I always have, make no mistake about that - again, as my history in any newsgroup shows, because top posting a reply to multiple points is not
    always going to get points accross.


    have a good weekend
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