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Where can I find instructions that actually work to create a Liveslak
15.0 thumbdrive for which changes thereto will persist?

I used the slackware 15.0 install/live which consists of 2 partitions,
the first of which does not have a partition type; the second is an EFI
boot which the Lenovo laptop requires, but changes don't persist.
Moreover, I can't mount it on a different system other than read-only.

The old 14.2 liveslack was persistent; I could make changes that would persist. How do I do the same for 15.0?
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On 03.03.2025 22:13 Uhr The Real Bev wrote:

Where can I find instructions that actually work to create a Liveslak
15.0 thumbdrive for which changes thereto will persist?

Why would you need that?
Install Slackware on the thumb drive and you get the result you want.
You need an EFI partition there and you can then boot from the boot
menu by selecting the grub efi bootloader from the directory.
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 22:13:28 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

Where can I find instructions that actually work to create a Liveslak
15.0 thumbdrive for which changes thereto will persist?

I used the slackware 15.0 install/live which consists of 2 partitions,
the first of which does not have a partition type; the second is an

EFI

boot which the Lenovo laptop requires, but changes don't persist.
Moreover, I can't mount it on a different system other than read-only.

The old 14.2 liveslack was persistent; I could make changes that would persist. How do I do the same for 15.0?

Hello Real Bev,

You might find my ZombieSlack project interesting.

I have been running Slackware from a bootable flashdrive for many years,
and I have gradually refined my method. I haven't released it yet, but I *have* been making plans to do so.

You can read about my ZombieSlack project here:

https://rosevearsoftware.com/products/zombieslack

When I do release it it will be in the form of:

-User instructions.

-A SAM library probably called SAM.ZombieSlack.

You can read about SAM here:

https://rosevearsoftware.com/products/sam

And here is some interesting history about the origin of ZombieSlack:

https://joeslife.org/projects/thin

ZombieSlack really works, but I'm just one small voice crying in the wilderness. I'm using it now in the form of a bootable flash drive
plugged into a desktop computer.

-Joe

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with <vq65ma$1ofm2$1@dont-email.me> The Real Bev wrote:

Where can I find instructions that actually work to create a Liveslak
15.0 thumbdrive for which changes thereto will persist?
I used the slackware 15.0 install/live which consists of 2 partitions,
the first of which does not have a partition type; the second is an
EFI boot which the Lenovo laptop requires, but changes don't persist. Moreover, I can't mount it on a different system other than read-only.

Yes, that's how hybrids look like when dumped onto usb-storage. But
there's hope.

The old 14.2 liveslack was persistent; I could make changes that
would persist. How do I do the same for 15.0?

Instructions:
<https://download.liveslak.org/liveslak/README.txt> (yes, it's huge and
messy).

Shortly, get iso-image and <iso2usb.sh> (it's next to <README>). Then
run it (setting options is up to you). I can confirm -- persistence
works (at least some of it). I'm not investing any time to see what
doesn't because...

That being said, what mm+usenet-es@ suggests -- I'm going this route too
(even XFCE is too much; also, I need libreoffice; also, I have no time
right now to figure out what's wrong with porteus).

p.s. Also, for kernel's sake, it's 2025 already. LiveCDs are so last millenia.
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Stallman's goal for GNU is even simpler: Freedom
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Nothing works...

I am trying to install 15.0 on a USB stick that is
to be used to boot into system which requires UEFI
boot. Before the install, I prepared the USB stick
with three gdisk partitions:

P1:500 mb EFI system file type ef00
P2:3GB BIOS boot system type ef02
P3:111Gb linux file system type 8300

The target system is a lenovo ideapad, on
which I booted into the 15.0 install USB.
The target USB was also plugged into the
laptop.

The target USB came up as /dev/sda with the
three partitions, and the USB install came
up. After booting into the install I ran
setup and set the target to /sda3.

I chose full install and let the process run.

When it came to a boot stick I declined.
When it came to installing lilo I declined.

I set up for Network Manager.
I chose the time zone

Upon completion I chose EXIT from the
install menu and dropped into a shell.

mount revealed that sda1 was mounted as was sda3.

I did chroot /mnt /bin/bash

then:
source /etc/profile
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub

I got back: this doesn't look like an EFI directory to me and the install failed.

I went ahead with the grub-mkconfig anyhow.

I then exited the install and removed both USB sticks
from the laptop.

I took the two sticks and inserted them into another
computer.

I mounted the install USB and the target USB.
I verified that the install USB had /EFI.
I repeated the post install procedure and, again,
got the "doesn't look like an EFI directory to me.

The only thing I can think that went wrong is the
original install did not copy over the EFI material.
The install recognized that there was an EFI partition
on the target USB, but I never saw a message that it
was formatted vfat, or that anything was written to it.

What step(s) am I missing in the install? Is there anything
I can do to recover when I have the fully-installed USB
stick without going through the entire install process again?
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Cheers, Bev
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all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less.
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 13:55:47 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

Nothing works...

I am trying to install 15.0 on a USB stick that is to be used to boot
into system which requires UEFI boot. Before the install, I prepared the
USB stick with three gdisk partitions:

P1:500 mb EFI system file type ef00 P2:3GB BIOS boot system type ef02 P3:111Gb linux file system type 8300

The target system is a lenovo ideapad, on which I booted into the 15.0 install USB.
The target USB was also plugged into the laptop.

The target USB came up as /dev/sda with the three partitions, and the
USB install came up. After booting into the install I ran setup and set
the target to /sda3.

I chose full install and let the process run.

When it came to a boot stick I declined.
When it came to installing lilo I declined.

I set up for Network Manager.
I chose the time zone

Upon completion I chose EXIT from the install menu and dropped into a
shell.

mount revealed that sda1 was mounted as was sda3.

I did chroot /mnt /bin/bash

then:
source /etc/profile grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub

I got back: this doesn't look like an EFI directory to me and the
install failed.

I went ahead with the grub-mkconfig anyhow.

I then exited the install and removed both USB sticks from the laptop.

I took the two sticks and inserted them into another computer.

I mounted the install USB and the target USB.
I verified that the install USB had /EFI.
I repeated the post install procedure and, again,
got the "doesn't look like an EFI directory to me.

The only thing I can think that went wrong is the original install did
not copy over the EFI material.
The install recognized that there was an EFI partition on the target
USB, but I never saw a message that it was formatted vfat, or that
anything was written to it.

What step(s) am I missing in the install? Is there anything I can do to recover when I have the fully-installed USB stick without going through
the entire install process again?

Hello again,

I've never used UEFI, but just now I did some looking online. Perhaps this article contains the answer you are looking for?:

https://superuser.com/questions/764799/how-to-create-an-efi-system-partition

Look for this sentence: "This means that once you have such a partition, it should get filled automatically when you install the operating system."

Of course this may not apply--I'm just trying to help. It does sound to me like what you are describing, though.

Let us know how it goes!

-Joe
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 13:55:47 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

Nothing works...

I am trying to install 15.0 on a USB stick that is
to be used to boot into system which requires UEFI
boot. Before the install, I prepared the USB stick
with three gdisk partitions:

P1:500 mb EFI system file type ef00
P2:3GB BIOS boot system type ef02
P3:111Gb linux file system type 8300

The target system is a lenovo ideapad, on
which I booted into the 15.0 install USB.
The target USB was also plugged into the
laptop.

The target USB came up as /dev/sda with the
three partitions, and the USB install came
up. After booting into the install I ran
setup and set the target to /sda3.

I chose full install and let the process run.

When it came to a boot stick I declined.
When it came to installing lilo I declined.

I set up for Network Manager.
I chose the time zone

Upon completion I chose EXIT from the
install menu and dropped into a shell.

mount revealed that sda1 was mounted as was sda3.

I did chroot /mnt /bin/bash

then:
source /etc/profile
grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub

I got back: this doesn't look like an EFI directory to me and the install failed.

I went ahead with the grub-mkconfig anyhow.

I then exited the install and removed both USB sticks
from the laptop.

I took the two sticks and inserted them into another
computer.

I mounted the install USB and the target USB.
I verified that the install USB had /EFI.
I repeated the post install procedure and, again,
got the "doesn't look like an EFI directory to me.

The only thing I can think that went wrong is the
original install did not copy over the EFI material.
The install recognized that there was an EFI partition
on the target USB, but I never saw a message that it
was formatted vfat, or that anything was written to it.

What step(s) am I missing in the install? Is there anything
I can do to recover when I have the fully-installed USB
stick without going through the entire install process again?

Well, I got success!

But I'm not doing the same thing as you. Here's what I accomplished:

-I revised my script called "install" and some scripts and one function that it calls. These all belong to my SAM menu called Zombie--which I hope to release soon as a library. Script install uses rsync to clone a reference Slackware installation and then tweaks it to make changes needed for good behavior when installed to a flashdrive, plus some other helpful tweaks as well.

-Using my revised Zombie menu I installed ZombieSlack/Slackware-15.0 to a GPT partition on a flashdrive, making it EFI-bootable in the process. It took two tries to get the code right, but in the end it worked. I'm using it now to post this. I just plugged the flashdrive into my old Prodesk tower and booted the UEFI entry. Note that this is real Slackware, *with* persistence.

To answer your question about what you can do:

-I would guess that you can just run grub-install again until you get it right, without re-installing Slackware. That's what I did, anyway.

-Note that I did *not* use chroot. Here is the grub-install invocation that I used in my script.

grub-install --recheck \
--boot-directory /mnt/to/boot \
--removable \
--target x86_64-efi \
--efi-directory /mnt/EFI_install \
--bootloader-id grub \
$1

I gave "/dev/sdd" for "$1", as that's what the flashdrive happened to be when I ran the script. The flashdrive had a gpt partition table and four partitions (I used parted):

# f.s. mounted GB flags
1 ext2 /mnt/to 23
2 ext2 /mnt/keep_install 0.5
3 swap 1.0
4 fat32 /mnt/EFI_install 0.2 boot, esp

Let me say that this was just a "first success", so maybe there's a better way to do it.

Good luck to you!

-Joe

P.S. I used the "tips" you provided, prior experience, plus this website:

https://linuxlink.timesys.com/docs/engineering/wiki/HOWTO_Install_GRUB2_with_EFI_support
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