• Getting a Thomann Pageturn in Linux Mint 20.3

    From FrankP@frank+es@CnocDeas.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Jul 23 22:55:50 2026
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    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work
    with Linux?

    I am trying to get a Thomann Pageturn pedal to work with my laptop. The
    laptop is a Dell Latitude 7390 running Linux Mint 20.3. The Pageturn
    device is a pedal that connects with bluetooth. The laptop should look
    on it as a keyboard.

    If I step onto the right side it should send a "right arrow" keypress to
    the computer, step on the left and it should send "left arrow". Or there
    are other pairs of keys that can be chosen: PgUp/PgDown or like that. So
    I could make the computer switch to the next page of music without
    taking my hands off the guitar.

    Now, if I switch the PageTurn on, and click on the Bluetooth icon on my taskbar, the little dialog that pops up lists the Thomann Pageturn, and
    I tell it to connect. The laptop says it is connected. The LED on the
    Pageturn goes from flashing to just being lit, indicating a connection.
    But regardless which side of the pedal I press, or which pair of keys I
    select on the device, no keypresses are happening, and OpenOffice
    Impress does not switch to the next slide.

    Is there anything else I should do to enable that device as a keyboard
    on the laptop?

    Thanks

    Frank
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Thu Jul 23 21:31:25 2026
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    On Thu, 7/23/2026 5:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work with Linux?

    I am trying to get a Thomann Pageturn pedal to work with my laptop. The laptop is a Dell Latitude 7390 running Linux Mint 20.3. The Pageturn device is a pedal that connects with bluetooth. The laptop should look on it as a keyboard.

    If I step onto the right side it should send a "right arrow" keypress to the computer, step on the left and it should send "left arrow". Or there are other pairs of keys that can be chosen: PgUp/PgDown or like that. So I could make the computer switch to the next page of music without taking my hands off the guitar.

    Now, if I switch the PageTurn on, and click on the Bluetooth icon on my taskbar, the little dialog that pops up lists the Thomann Pageturn, and I tell it to connect. The laptop says it is connected. The LED on the Pageturn goes from flashing to just being lit, indicating a connection. But regardless which side of the pedal I press, or which pair of keys I select on the device, no keypresses are happening, and OpenOffice Impress does not switch to the next slide.

    Is there anything else I should do to enable that device as a keyboard on the laptop?

    Thanks

    Frank

    "xev" is a utility from the X11 (Xorg) era.
    I don't know if there is a utility like it, for a native-Wayland yet.

    You have a mouse, which can give particular windows the focus.

    The keyboards work in parallel. If you press a key, there
    is a "keydown" code and a "keyup" code for a particular character name.
    And this shows in the output of XEV (stdout, in my terminal).

    Your device could be generating no code at all, or it could
    be generating a code that is not recognized or action-able.

    This shows the output while debugging a query about ctrl-L and ctrl-R keys.
    And you can see the codes generated by working those keys, in the picture.
    Two picture sites are used, as people in Britain are blocked on one of the sites.

    [Picture] check-key-press-W11-using-WSL2.jpg

    https://imgur.com/a/2mfOzTG

    https://i.postimg.cc/65Gn24PT/check-key-press-W11-using-WSL2.jpg

    I'm using WSL2 on Windows and a bash session (with WSLg graphics)
    for my test. I have a Devuan on the other machine, I can use for
    native X11 test cases. There are seven Linux OSes on the SSD in the
    other machine (doing MythTV test over there). Just to show the
    test even works in the more obscure environments :-)

    Paul
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  • From german newsgroups@usualsuspectrider@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 24 07:29:35 2026
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    Le 23/07/2026 |a 23:55, FrankP a |-crit-a:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work
    with Linux?

    I am trying to get a Thomann Pageturn pedal to work with my laptop. The laptop is a Dell Latitude 7390 running Linux Mint 20.3. The Pageturn
    device is a pedal that connects with bluetooth. The laptop should look
    on it as a keyboard.

    If I step onto the right side it should send a "right arrow" keypress to
    the computer, step on the left and it should send "left arrow". Or there
    are other pairs of keys that can be chosen: PgUp/PgDown or like that. So
    I could make the computer switch to the next page of music without
    taking my hands off the guitar.

    Now, if I switch the PageTurn on, and click on the Bluetooth icon on my taskbar, the little dialog that pops up lists the Thomann Pageturn, and
    I tell it to connect. The laptop says it is connected. The LED on the Pageturn goes from flashing to just being lit, indicating a connection.
    But regardless which side of the pedal I press, or which pair of keys I select on the device, no keypresses are happening, and OpenOffice
    Impress does not switch to the next slide.

    Is there anything else I should do to enable that device as a keyboard
    on the laptop?

    Thanks

    Frank

    hi kids,

    it will be interesting to do a test with a html page and
    javascript and see the keycode return for each keydown !

    the driver is ok, so...good first step !
    --
    Amicalement,

    Frenchy Friendly, & French touch !

    german
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  • From Edmund@nomail@hotmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 24 09:11:04 2026
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    On 7/23/26 11:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work
    with Linux?


    Yes there actually is, I posted the method here more then once.
    I am rather busy now but I try to find it and post it again.



    I am trying to get a Thomann Pageturn pedal to work with my laptop. The laptop is a Dell Latitude 7390 running Linux Mint 20.3. The Pageturn
    device is a pedal that connects with bluetooth. The laptop should look
    on it as a keyboard.

    If I step onto the right side it should send a "right arrow" keypress to
    the computer, step on the left and it should send "left arrow". Or there
    are other pairs of keys that can be chosen: PgUp/PgDown or like that. So
    I could make the computer switch to the next page of music without
    taking my hands off the guitar.

    Now, if I switch the PageTurn on, and click on the Bluetooth icon on my taskbar, the little dialog that pops up lists the Thomann Pageturn, and
    I tell it to connect. The laptop says it is connected. The LED on the Pageturn goes from flashing to just being lit, indicating a connection.
    But regardless which side of the pedal I press, or which pair of keys I select on the device, no keypresses are happening, and OpenOffice
    Impress does not switch to the next slide.

    Is there anything else I should do to enable that device as a keyboard
    on the laptop?

    Probably not but most likely it didn't connect/paired as it should.


    Thanks

    Frank
    --
    Once an organization gains any influence, it will be corrupted from both within and without.

    Edmund
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  • From Edmund@nomail@hotmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 24 09:20:26 2026
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    On 7/23/26 11:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work
    with Linux?


    Found it!

    Follow these steps, I wasted weeks with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard
    until I found this, which actually and finally worked!

    -----------
    Hi! I am new to this forum and to Linux but I managed to do it as follows:
    1) Open terminal and type 'sudo bluetoothctl'

    scan on


    2) Remove and forget the device. If you have already removed it don't do anything if not just type 'remove' following with the MAC address of the device. You can also do it with the Blueman app.

    remove (mouse) F2:11:B7:E4:99:3E


    3) Turn on your device that you want to connect and put it on pairing mode.


    4) On your terminal write 'scan on'

    scan on

    5) Find your device's MAC address and copy it (ctrl + shift + c)

    F4:73:35:65:08:49 F4:73:35:65:08:49

    6) Type 'pair' following with the MAC address of your device (ctrl +
    shift + v)

    pair F4:73:35:65:08:49

    7) Type 'connect' following with the MAC address of your device

    connect F4:73:35:65:08:49

    8 ) This is tricky and I don't know how to explain it but the previous
    steps have been written in terminal after '[bluetooth] #'. After you do
    the 7th step you will be now writing after '[Bluetooth Mouse
    M336/M337/M535]#' and then you just write 'trust' and you are good to go.

    trust

    Appologies for my poor knowledge in the topic I have been following the terminal's help options and they worked.

    -----------





    I am trying to get a Thomann Pageturn pedal to work with my laptop. The laptop is a Dell Latitude 7390 running Linux Mint 20.3. The Pageturn
    device is a pedal that connects with bluetooth. The laptop should look
    on it as a keyboard.

    If I step onto the right side it should send a "right arrow" keypress to
    the computer, step on the left and it should send "left arrow". Or there
    are other pairs of keys that can be chosen: PgUp/PgDown or like that. So
    I could make the computer switch to the next page of music without
    taking my hands off the guitar.

    Now, if I switch the PageTurn on, and click on the Bluetooth icon on my taskbar, the little dialog that pops up lists the Thomann Pageturn, and
    I tell it to connect. The laptop says it is connected. The LED on the Pageturn goes from flashing to just being lit, indicating a connection.
    But regardless which side of the pedal I press, or which pair of keys I select on the device, no keypresses are happening, and OpenOffice
    Impress does not switch to the next slide.

    Is there anything else I should do to enable that device as a keyboard
    on the laptop?

    Thanks

    Frank
    --
    Once an organization gains any influence, it will be corrupted from both within and without.

    Edmund
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  • From FrankP@frank+es@CnocDeas.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 24 22:47:38 2026
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    On 24/07/2026 02:31, Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 7/23/2026 5:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work with Linux?

    I am trying to get a Thomann Pageturn pedal to work with my laptop.

    [...]

    "xev" is a utility from the X11 (Xorg) era.
    I don't know if there is a utility like it, for a native-Wayland yet.

    [...]

    Your device could be generating no code at all, or it could
    be generating a code that is not recognized or action-able.

    [...]

    Thanks for the hint Paul. And for your kindness in posting to two image servers. I was able to see both, maybe because I don't live in Britain
    (is there a Great Firewall Of Brexit or something?)

    xev show me events alright, I can press the ctrl key or similar and see
    events being shown. But no matter what I pressed on the Pageturn device,
    there was no event. So it looks like the "Your device could be
    generating no code at all" is right on the money!

    Think this device might be going back where it came from...

    Frank
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  • From FrankP@frank+es@CnocDeas.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 24 22:47:47 2026
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    On 24/07/2026 08:20, Edmund wrote:
    On 7/23/26 11:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work
    with Linux?


    Found it!

    Follow these steps, I wasted weeks with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard
    until I found this, which actually and finally worked!
    [...]
    1) Open terminal and type 'sudo bluetoothctl'
    [...]
    trust
    [...]

    Thanks Edmund. You're very good to look it up, I doubt I would have been
    able to find it, I've not been on Eternal September long so Thunderbird
    would not have it cached anywhere.

    I followed the steps, and got as far as the trust step, and bluetoothctl reported success.

    Unfortunately there was still no response when I pressed the pedal. I
    tried a couple of apps including xev as mentioned by Paul, and if the
    device is sending keypress events, they are not getting as far as the computer.

    After bluetoothctl said "Changing 0D:7D:EE:69:CA:E9 trust succeeded", it
    went "ServicesResolved: no" -> "Connected: no" -> "Connected: yes" -> "ServicesResolved: yes". But then whatever I press on the device, there
    are no more messages until I power the device down, then it's "ServicesResolved: no", then "Connected: no" and the prompt changes back
    from "[Thomann Pageturn]" to "[bluetooth]". That makes sense.

    But there were no other messages, no keyboard events in xev, no cursor movement or changing the slide in OpenOffice Impress. AND to put salt in
    it, after connecting and disconnecting the device, the laptop no longer
    wakes up if the screen is closed and opened again.

    Returning the device and going for another option is looking like the
    most attractive option at this point!

    Thanks again

    Frank

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  • From Edmund@nomail@hotmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jul 25 09:16:13 2026
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    On 7/24/26 11:47 PM, FrankP wrote:
    On 24/07/2026 08:20, Edmund wrote:
    On 7/23/26 11:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work
    with Linux?


    Found it!

    Follow these steps, I wasted weeks with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard
    until I found this, which actually and finally worked!
    [...]
    1) Open terminal and type 'sudo bluetoothctl'
    [...]
    trust
    [...]

    Thanks Edmund. You're very good to look it up, I doubt I would have been able to find it, I've not been on Eternal September long so Thunderbird would not have it cached anywhere.

    I followed the steps, and got as far as the trust step, and bluetoothctl reported success.

    Unfortunately there was still no response when I pressed the pedal. I
    tried a couple of apps including xev as mentioned by Paul, and if the
    device is sending keypress events, they are not getting as far as the computer.

    After bluetoothctl said "Changing 0D:7D:EE:69:CA:E9 trust succeeded", it went "ServicesResolved: no" -> "Connected: no" -> "Connected: yes" -> "ServicesResolved: yes". But then whatever I press on the device, there
    are no more messages until I power the device down, then it's "ServicesResolved: no", then "Connected: no" and the prompt changes back from "[Thomann Pageturn]" to "[bluetooth]". That makes sense.

    But there were no other messages, no keyboard events in xev, no cursor movement or changing the slide in OpenOffice Impress. AND to put salt in
    it, after connecting and disconnecting the device, the laptop no longer wakes up if the screen is closed and opened again.

    Returning the device and going for another option is looking like the
    most attractive option at this point!

    Thanks again

    Frank

    Sorry to hear that, strange.
    --
    Once an organization gains any influence, it will be corrupted from both within and without.

    Edmund
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  • From Mike Scott@usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jul 25 09:27:21 2026
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    On 24/07/2026 22:47, FrankP wrote:
    Returning the device and going for another option is looking like the
    most attractive option at this point!

    I don't know how keen you'd be on DIY. I put together a homebrew
    solution: a rpi pico with wifi and a set of switches sends broadcast
    packets to mark switch events. A program on the PC listens for these and converts to X events using xdotool (I found F5 to F8 convenient).
    Written in python and perl respectively.
    --
    Mike Scott
    Harlow, England
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jul 25 09:38:05 2026
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    On Fri, 7/24/2026 5:47 PM, FrankP wrote:
    On 24/07/2026 08:20, Edmund wrote:
    On 7/23/26 11:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to work with Linux?


    Found it!

    Follow these steps, I wasted weeks with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard until I found this, which actually and finally worked!
    [...]
    1) Open terminal and type 'sudo bluetoothctl'
    [...]
    trust
    [...]

    Thanks Edmund. You're very good to look it up, I doubt I would have been able to find it, I've not been on Eternal September long so Thunderbird would not have it cached anywhere.

    I followed the steps, and got as far as the trust step, and bluetoothctl reported success.

    Unfortunately there was still no response when I pressed the pedal. I tried a couple of apps including xev as mentioned by Paul, and if the device is sending keypress events, they are not getting as far as the computer.

    After bluetoothctl said "Changing 0D:7D:EE:69:CA:E9 trust succeeded", it went "ServicesResolved: no" -> "Connected: no" -> "Connected: yes" -> "ServicesResolved: yes". But then whatever I press on the device, there are no more messages until I power the device down, then it's "ServicesResolved: no", then "Connected: no" and the prompt changes back from "[Thomann Pageturn]" to "[bluetooth]". That makes sense.

    But there were no other messages, no keyboard events in xev, no cursor movement or changing the slide in OpenOffice Impress. AND to put salt in it, after connecting and disconnecting the device, the laptop no longer wakes up if the screen is closed and opened again.

    Returning the device and going for another option is looking like the most attractive option at this point!

    Thanks again

    Frank


    In a Google check, multiple brands of pageturn devices stop working.
    Sometimes it is the application that receives an update, that stops
    it working. In the description here, it is an Accessibility setting
    that affects it.

    https://forscore.co/kb/full-keyboard-access/

    So of all the places to check for a setting, you would check
    the Accessibility interface, to see if there is anything which
    affects keyboards in general.

    Some people in music forums, have bought two pedals, only
    to have them both malfunction the same way. It's not
    necessarily the pedal doing this.

    For Bluetooth devices, sometimes the Pairing procedure
    is recorded in flash, and that is the part that stops
    it from working. Yours does not show symptoms of that
    necessarily, and that might not be it. But in past
    cases of Bluetooth malfunction, that's a root cause.
    That's for devices that support multiple pairings
    at the same time.

    Paul

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  • From FrankP@frank+es@CnocDeas.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jul 27 23:40:21 2026
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    On 25/07/2026 08:16, Edmund wrote:
    On 7/24/26 11:47 PM, FrankP wrote:
    On 24/07/2026 08:20, Edmund wrote:
    On 7/23/26 11:55 PM, FrankP wrote:
    Hi

    Is there any particular trick to getting a Bluetooth keyboard to
    work with Linux?


    Found it!

    Follow these steps, I wasted weeks with a bluetooth mouse and
    keyboard until I found this, which actually and finally worked!
    [...]
    1) Open terminal and type 'sudo bluetoothctl'
    [...]
    trust
    [...]

    Thanks Edmund. You're very good to look it up, I doubt I would have
    been able to find it, I've not been on Eternal September long so
    Thunderbird would not have it cached anywhere.

    I followed the steps, and got as far as the trust step, and
    bluetoothctl reported success.

    Unfortunately there was still no response when I pressed the pedal. I
    tried a couple of apps including xev as mentioned by Paul, and if the
    device is sending keypress events, they are not getting as far as the
    computer.

    After bluetoothctl said "Changing 0D:7D:EE:69:CA:E9 trust succeeded",
    it went "ServicesResolved: no" -> "Connected: no" -> "Connected: yes"
    "ServicesResolved: yes". But then whatever I press on the device,
    there are no more messages until I power the device down, then it's
    "ServicesResolved: no", then "Connected: no" and the prompt changes
    back from "[Thomann Pageturn]" to "[bluetooth]". That makes sense.

    But there were no other messages, no keyboard events in xev, no cursor
    movement or changing the slide in OpenOffice Impress. AND to put salt
    in it, after connecting and disconnecting the device, the laptop no
    longer wakes up if the screen is closed and opened again.

    Returning the device and going for another option is looking like the
    most attractive option at this point!

    Thanks again

    Frank

    Sorry to hear that, strange.


    I found that it does give keyboard events IF it is connected with a USB
    cable rather than bluetooth.

    So I tried using it on Sunday. Borrowed a long USB cable from my
    daughter -- the cable that came with the device only reaches up to my kneebone, which is not great for operating the computer with my toes.
    Turns out it goes to sleep to save the battery -- at inconvenient times.
    Maybe it would have more patience when connected with Bluetooth, but I
    think mine has run out; I am not expecting to have a long-term
    relationship with this device :-/

    Frank

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jul 27 19:37:34 2026
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    On Mon, 7/27/2026 6:40 PM, FrankP wrote:

    I found that it does give keyboard events IF it is connected with a USB cable rather than bluetooth.

    So I tried using it on Sunday. Borrowed a long USB cable from my daughter -- the cable that came with the device only reaches up to my kneebone, which is not great for operating the computer with my toes. Turns out it goes to sleep to save the battery -- at inconvenient times. Maybe it would have more patience when connected with Bluetooth, but I think mine has run out; I am not expecting to have a long-term relationship with this device :-/

    Frank

    If it is running off a USB cable and giving data events,
    then it should be able to draw current continuously from
    USB VBUS and not use the battery at all. It should run
    forever that way.

    It is understandable, that on Bluetooth, it will have a sleep
    behavior, after enough minutes have passed.

    I have a Bluetooth speaker, and the solution they use there, is
    an old fashioned switch. If you don't want it wasting the battery,
    you can switch it off. Inside, it has a 3.7V single cell, and a
    boost converter makes 5V from that.

    Paul


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