• ASrock motherboard

    From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 17 21:12:51 2026
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    I have just completed the rebuilding of an HTPC.
    For the first time I used an ASRock motherboard.
    It went well until I plugged in a TBS-6281 DVB-T2 TV card.

    After I booted up it could not be detected. I went through hoops
    accompanied by an AI but nothing worked.

    I contacted Turbosoft and they confirmed that changes on some modern
    boards prevented my card being detected. However they said that one of
    their later cards would definitely work.

    Well, there was no going back so I ordered the new one.
    Unfortunately it had to come from the USA via the far side of the moon
    it seems.

    I plugged it in yesterday and set about getting the software to work.
    This included restoring all my TV recording garnered on another
    machine. By tonight it was working perfectly.

    I didn't have this problem with ASus or Gigabyte boards. A professional engineer friend said ASRock are the bottom of the pile. I would think
    twice before trying therm again.

    Alan
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 17 18:14:39 2026
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    On Fri, 7/17/2026 4:12 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I have just completed the rebuilding of an HTPC.
    For the first time I used an ASRock motherboard.
    It went well until I plugged in a TBS-6281 DVB-T2 TV card.

    After I booted up it could not be detected. I went through hoops
    accompanied by an AI but nothing worked.

    I contacted Turbosoft and they confirmed that changes on some modern
    boards prevented my card being detected. However they said that one of
    their later cards would definitely work.

    Well, there was no going back so I ordered the new one.
    Unfortunately it had to come from the USA via the far side of the moon
    it seems.

    I plugged it in yesterday and set about getting the software to work.
    This included restoring all my TV recording garnered on another
    machine. By tonight it was working perfectly.

    I didn't have this problem with ASus or Gigabyte boards. A professional engineer friend said ASRock are the bottom of the pile. I would think
    twice before trying therm again.

    Alan

    Historically, there were problems with "types" of cards.

    For example, if you take my 440BX motherboard from around
    the year 2000, it does not know what a "SATA PCI card" is.
    It only knows about IDE. If you plug in a SATA PCI card,
    it cannot boot from it, it does not assign a chip select
    signal to the populated slot, and this also results in the
    slot being invisible when the OS is running.

    A second kind of error is "slot specificity". My Dell Refurb,
    the #1 slot is "for video card only". The BIOS will halt
    if you stick a SATA PCI Express card in the slot instead.
    No other computer in the house, does this.

    When this happened on Asus, it was fixed on the very next BIOS
    release (so that any card type could be in slot #1 next to the CPU).

    On the Dell Refurb, this was *never* fixed.

    Asrock can be every bit as good, in terms of a motherboard design.
    They've done all sorts of eccentric boards, like my board that
    had a PCIe slot for video and an AGP slot for video. But their
    BIOS habits are weird. They release more BIOS Than other companies,
    but you can't tell what they fixed or what changed.

    My MSI board has some weird habits, and I can't even tell if this
    is a bad motherboard, or it is the quality of their BIOS.

    Generally speaking, boards have been getting more complicated,
    and harder to release in 100% correct fashion.

    As far as I know, a TV tuner card is a "known" card type. And really,
    cards that are "Media Center compatible" should work, as the majority
    of cards aim for that. Even though Media Center no longer exists,
    if you are a TV tuner company, it's still a target to aspire to.

    Paul
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Fri Jul 17 18:17:17 2026
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    On Fri, 7/17/2026 6:14 PM, Paul wrote:
    On Fri, 7/17/2026 4:12 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I have just completed the rebuilding of an HTPC.
    For the first time I used an ASRock motherboard.
    It went well until I plugged in a TBS-6281 DVB-T2 TV card.

    After I booted up it could not be detected. I went through hoops
    accompanied by an AI but nothing worked.

    I contacted Turbosoft and they confirmed that changes on some modern
    boards prevented my card being detected. However they said that one of
    their later cards would definitely work.

    Well, there was no going back so I ordered the new one.
    Unfortunately it had to come from the USA via the far side of the moon
    it seems.

    I plugged it in yesterday and set about getting the software to work.
    This included restoring all my TV recording garnered on another
    machine. By tonight it was working perfectly.

    I didn't have this problem with ASus or Gigabyte boards. A professional
    engineer friend said ASRock are the bottom of the pile. I would think
    twice before trying therm again.

    Alan


    ANd really, your TV Tuner company should know all these quirks,
    from field reports. They should know all the curve balls
    that real computers throw. Like a slot that is wired x4 and
    for some reason does not work with x2 cards. It may work with
    x1 wired cards. I have some cards here wired x2. One of the
    RealTek 10GbE chips, is a PCIe Rev3 x2 so that should be a good
    slot tester when it is released.

    Paul

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jul 18 14:11:26 2026
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    pinnerite wrote:
    I have just completed the rebuilding of an HTPC.
    For the first time I used an ASRock motherboard.
    It went well until I plugged in a TBS-6281 DVB-T2 TV card.

    After I booted up it could not be detected. I went through hoops
    accompanied by an AI but nothing worked.

    I contacted Turbosoft and they confirmed that changes on some modern
    boards prevented my card being detected. However they said that one of
    their later cards would definitely work.

    Well, there was no going back so I ordered the new one.
    Unfortunately it had to come from the USA via the far side of the moon
    it seems.

    I plugged it in yesterday and set about getting the software to work.
    This included restoring all my TV recording garnered on another
    machine. By tonight it was working perfectly.

    I didn't have this problem with ASus or Gigabyte boards. A professional engineer friend said ASRock are the bottom of the pile. I would think
    twice before trying therm again.

    I have an ASRock motherboard that must be about 15yo now, still going
    strong. I bought it because it does everything, 6 x SATA, IDE, floppy, 2
    x PCI, 3 x PCIe, PCIe16, 3 x USB2, 4 x USB3, PS/2 ports, HDMI_SPDIF, 4
    RAM slots, etc.,

    https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/980de3u3s3/


    Alan


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  • From Edmund@nomail@hotmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jul 18 09:02:29 2026
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    On 7/17/26 10:12 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I have just completed the rebuilding of an HTPC.

    No idea what that is.



    Alan


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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jul 18 03:59:03 2026
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    On Sat, 7/18/2026 3:02 AM, Edmund wrote:
    On 7/17/26 10:12 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I have just completed the rebuilding of an HTPC.

    No idea what that is.

    Home Theater Personal Computer.

    You can have one machine, set up to record TV.

    The "player" (HTPC) machines emulate TV sets in different rooms.

    The interface you make your media selection from uses large
    characters and is easy to read. This is the "10 foot screen"
    concept. The actual monitor connected to the HTPC could be
    a 55" monitor or a 75" TV set if you want. The HTPC normally
    is a "low power" machine, so it uses a low end video card,
    and with any luck, the video card has a decoder for the
    movie content (H.264) so that the processor in the HTPC
    has practically nothing to do.

    Antenna --- TV Tuner Card --- "Recording" PC
    | | |
    | | |
    v v v
    HTPC HTPC HTPC \
    #1 #2 #3 \
    | | | \___ Virtual
    10foot 10foot 10foot / TV Set
    screen screen screen / One per room

    A lot of people have just one front end and one back end.
    You can, if you want, combine the recording function
    and the playback function in the same machine.

    Paul
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jul 18 15:47:15 2026
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    On Fri, 17 Jul 2026 21:12:51 +0100, pinnerite wrote:

    I didn't have this problem with ASus or Gigabyte boards. A professional engineer friend said ASRock are the bottom of the pile. I would think
    twice before trying therm again.

    I had ASRock mobo ages ago. Can't remember it giving me any problems.

    I've always been told ASRock was the 'little (cheaper) sister' of ASUS.
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