• Two Screens. One nit displaYinG.

    From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 11:02:39 2026
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    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly
    dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan
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  • From Edmund@nomail@hotmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 12:07:36 2026
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    On 5/16/26 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly
    dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan


    What does the display menu tells you?
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 07:09:14 2026
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    On Sat, 5/16/2026 6:02 AM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly
    dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan

    This command is a complement to what you see in the display panel.

    xrandr -q

    bullwinkle@PROGRESS:~$ xrandr -q
    Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 32767 x 32767
    DVI-D-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    HDMI-0 connected primary 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm
    1280x1024 60.02*+ 75.02
    1280x720 60.00 59.94
    1152x864 75.00
    1024x768 75.03 70.07 60.00
    800x600 75.00 72.19 60.32 56.25
    640x480 75.00 72.81 59.94
    DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-4 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-5 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

    (Card has HDMI, DP,DP,DP, DVI-D. HDMI to VGA adapter driving one 1280x1024 VGA LCD monitor. )

    There are also some EDID commands ("readedid"), for dumping the EDID over the interface
    on each display cable. HDMI/DP/VGA/DVI have EDID, signals with names like SDA,SCK.
    The video card send SDA,SCK and the monitor reads back its EEPROM of stuff. Some poorly prepared monitors did not have a write-protect on
    their EDID EEPROM and could be (accidentally) modified. With
    various humorous results.

    It is the reading of the EDID on my 20 year old LCD monitor, that
    results in the six lines of resolution choices. XRandr then, also
    has to read the EDID to get that info.

    If you are using a KVM, that is another source of surprises
    when it comes to monitor detection.

    Paul

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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 15:48:56 2026
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    On Sat, 16 May 2026 12:07:36 +0200
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/16/26 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly
    dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan


    What does the display menu tells you?

    Absolutely nothing helpful.


    Alan
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 15:52:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 07:09:14 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 5/16/2026 6:02 AM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly
    dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan

    This command is a complement to what you see in the display panel.

    xrandr -q

    bullwinkle@PROGRESS:~$ xrandr -q
    Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 32767 x 32767
    DVI-D-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    HDMI-0 connected primary 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm
    1280x1024 60.02*+ 75.02
    1280x720 60.00 59.94
    1152x864 75.00
    1024x768 75.03 70.07 60.00
    800x600 75.00 72.19 60.32 56.25
    640x480 75.00 72.81 59.94
    DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-4 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
    DP-5 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

    (Card has HDMI, DP,DP,DP, DVI-D. HDMI to VGA adapter driving one 1280x1024 VGA LCD monitor. )


    $ xrandr --verbose
    Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 4096 x 4096
    None-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (0x41) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
    Identifier: 0x3f
    Timestamp: 7539
    Subpixel: unknown
    Gamma: 1.0:1.0:1.0
    Brightness: 1.0
    Clones:
    CRTC: 0
    CRTCs: 0
    Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
    0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
    0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
    filter:
    link-status: Good
    supported: Good, Bad
    CONNECTOR_ID: 35
    supported: 35
    non-desktop: 0
    range: (0, 1)
    1920x1080 (0x41) 124.416MHz *current +preferred
    h: width 1920 start 1920 end 1920 total 1920 skew 0 clock 64.80KHz
    v: height 1080 start 1080 end 1080 total 1080 clock 60.00Hz $



    There are also some EDID commands ("readedid"), for dumping the EDID over the interface
    on each display cable. HDMI/DP/VGA/DVI have EDID, signals with names like SDA,SCK.
    The video card send SDA,SCK and the monitor reads back its EEPROM of stuff. Some poorly prepared monitors did not have a write-protect on
    their EDID EEPROM and could be (accidentally) modified. With
    various humorous results.

    It is the reading of the EDID on my 20 year old LCD monitor, that
    results in the six lines of resolution choices. XRandr then, also
    has to read the EDID to get that info.

    If you are using a KVM, that is another source of surprises
    when it comes to monitor detection.

    Paul

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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 17:02:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:48:56 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 12:07:36 +0200
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/16/26 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan


    What does the display menu tells you?

    Absolutely nothing helpful.

    However, ChatGPT, ulike Google's AI hit the spot:

    sudo apt update
    sudo apt install --reinstall \
    linux-image-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-84-generic

    sudo update-initramfs -u
    reboot

    And I had two screens, except the desktop icons and panel were now on
    the left-hand screen but I can live with that.

    Alan
    --
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 12:36:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 5/16/2026 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:48:56 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 12:07:36 +0200
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/16/26 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly
    dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan


    What does the display menu tells you?

    Absolutely nothing helpful.

    However, ChatGPT, ulike Google's AI hit the spot:

    sudo apt update
    sudo apt install --reinstall \
    linux-image-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-84-generic

    sudo update-initramfs -u
    reboot

    And I had two screens, except the desktop icons and panel were now on
    the left-hand screen but I can live with that.

    Alan


    So it is indicating you should reinstall your kernel (in so many words) ?

    There must have been some comment text, indicating why
    it thought that was necessary. Video card driver via DKMS ?

    Does that mean something happened the last time you build
    some driver or something ? The TV tuner probably isn't
    on your Daily Driver, but maybe it is.

    *******

    Doing a Google search, the results are filled with forums cases
    where a monitor goes missing.

    In this example of a response to the problem, they blame both
    a kernel versus driver version mismatch, but I found one thread
    where someone "tried every kernel version under the sun" and it
    didn't help. This article also mention reinstalling Xorg. It would
    be unusual today, for /etc/X11 to have an xorg.conf, as the "automation"
    is supposed to generate the xorg.conf on the fly. I used to generate
    custom xorg.conf, but it was because of the crappy virtual machine
    environment which had no end of problems with video (wrong res, small res).

    https://www.2bytes.org/poleznyashki-i-zametki-it/linux/how-to-revive-your-second-monitor-in-manjaro-when-the-system-doesnt-detect-it/

    We're still not getting an explanation of what the root cause is,
    whether AMD and NVidia know about this, are causing this, or
    it's an XWayland problem, or whatever. Without root cause we
    are swatting at flies with an inadequate fly swatter.

    Paul
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 21:29:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 12:36:56 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 5/16/2026 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:48:56 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 12:07:36 +0200
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/16/26 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly
    dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan


    What does the display menu tells you?

    Absolutely nothing helpful.

    However, ChatGPT, ulike Google's AI hit the spot:

    sudo apt update
    sudo apt install --reinstall \
    linux-image-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-84-generic

    sudo update-initramfs -u
    reboot

    And I had two screens, except the desktop icons and panel were now on
    the left-hand screen but I can live with that.

    Alan


    So it is indicating you should reinstall your kernel (in so many words) ?

    There must have been some comment text, indicating why
    it thought that was necessary. Video card driver via DKMS ?

    Does that mean something happened the last time you build
    some driver or something ? The TV tuner probably isn't
    on your Daily Driver, but maybe it is.

    *******

    Doing a Google search, the results are filled with forums cases
    where a monitor goes missing.

    In this example of a response to the problem, they blame both
    a kernel versus driver version mismatch, but I found one thread
    where someone "tried every kernel version under the sun" and it
    didn't help. This article also mention reinstalling Xorg. It would
    be unusual today, for /etc/X11 to have an xorg.conf, as the "automation"
    is supposed to generate the xorg.conf on the fly. I used to generate
    custom xorg.conf, but it was because of the crappy virtual machine environment which had no end of problems with video (wrong res, small res).

    https://www.2bytes.org/poleznyashki-i-zametki-it/linux/how-to-revive-your-second-monitor-in-manjaro-when-the-system-doesnt-detect-it/

    We're still not getting an explanation of what the root cause is,
    whether AMD and NVidia know about this, are causing this, or
    it's an XWayland problem, or whatever. Without root cause we
    are swatting at flies with an inadequate fly swatter.

    Paul

    What is weird about this is that it had been working for some time
    using the amd gpu driver. Why it lost the plot is an unknown.
    Alan
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  • From pinnerite@pinnerite@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat May 16 21:52:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 21:29:24 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 12:36:56 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 5/16/2026 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:48:56 +0100
    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 May 2026 12:07:36 +0200
    Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/16/26 12:02 PM, pinnerite wrote:

    What had been working reliably after new cables attached, suddenly >>>> dropped its right-hand screen.

    But when I boot on a Mint live flash-drive, both screens come up.
    So far I cannot seem to get it going again.

    The Display driver only sees one screen.

    I have an AMD graphics card. No Nvidia.


    :( Alan


    What does the display menu tells you?

    Absolutely nothing helpful.

    However, ChatGPT, ulike Google's AI hit the spot:

    sudo apt update
    sudo apt install --reinstall \
    linux-image-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-6.8.0-84-generic \
    linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-84-generic

    sudo update-initramfs -u
    reboot

    And I had two screens, except the desktop icons and panel were now on
    the left-hand screen but I can live with that.

    Alan


    So it is indicating you should reinstall your kernel (in so many words) ?

    There must have been some comment text, indicating why
    it thought that was necessary. Video card driver via DKMS ?

    Does that mean something happened the last time you build
    some driver or something ? The TV tuner probably isn't
    on your Daily Driver, but maybe it is.

    *******

    Doing a Google search, the results are filled with forums cases
    where a monitor goes missing.

    In this example of a response to the problem, they blame both
    a kernel versus driver version mismatch, but I found one thread
    where someone "tried every kernel version under the sun" and it
    didn't help. This article also mention reinstalling Xorg. It would
    be unusual today, for /etc/X11 to have an xorg.conf, as the "automation"
    is supposed to generate the xorg.conf on the fly. I used to generate
    custom xorg.conf, but it was because of the crappy virtual machine environment which had no end of problems with video (wrong res, small res).

    https://www.2bytes.org/poleznyashki-i-zametki-it/linux/how-to-revive-your-second-monitor-in-manjaro-when-the-system-doesnt-detect-it/

    We're still not getting an explanation of what the root cause is,
    whether AMD and NVidia know about this, are causing this, or
    it's an XWayland problem, or whatever. Without root cause we
    are swatting at flies with an inadequate fly swatter.

    Paul

    What is weird about this is that it had been working for some time
    using the amd gpu driver. Why it lost the plot is an unknown.
    Alan

    Just to add, getting the desktop icons and panel to the right-hand screen without disrupting the mouse, sending it off the right edge of the right-hand screen in order to get the the left was easy.

    Open Menu raA Settings raA Display
    Click the right-hand monitor
    Enable:
    rCLPrimaryrCY (or rCLSet as primaryrCY)
    Click Apply

    Thzat moved the bottom panel and the desktop icons back
    and Bob's your uncle.

    Alan
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  • From german newsgroups@usualsuspectrider@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun May 17 08:07:09 2026
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    a CPU have way. if your CPU have 3 ways is 3 !

    for chipset, it's the same..usualy...the chipset
    is better strong than the CPU...

    Y|-, We don't know the specs for AMD graphic card...Linux
    know display all !?#

    but, for me, the ways out have a number, so HDMI could be
    the One, Display port the Two, and DVI the Last.

    Nobody have a emulation screen ! if the screen is 1080P what
    for the display port !?#

    so, if you use adapter...ok you have a hold VGA screen we like
    may be is a 1080P so we have the same number pixels !!!

    with the command on top, i see you could play in 75FPS at doom
    it's cool isn't !!! :)

    sp, what is the spec for CPU
    what we can say about your AMD card
    may be the spec for your shipset
    and to end, the adapter...yes may be with a nvidia card ??? i don't know.

    yes the cable can be false...twisted and cut connector...
    --
    Amicalement,

    Frenchy Friendly, & French touch !

    german
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  • From german newsgroups@usualsuspectrider@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun May 17 08:14:13 2026
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    after the kernel boot...the next stage is display drivers...and...to
    end...the desktop, a soft you have a lot of sort desktop...but may be
    do something with some config file ??? i don't know...

    i hope you don"t loose a dependancie somewhere...to do that or that...
    they are software layer kernel, Xorg (service server), driver,
    desktop...the game :))
    --
    Amicalement,

    Frenchy Friendly, & French touch !

    german
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  • From german newsgroups@usualsuspectrider@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun May 17 08:18:13 2026
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    some people but the old screen at bin, and after they are office sale it
    for 1 -10 euros! it's posible find a hdmi screen...dvi or display port sure...vga yes...so !!!!!
    --
    Amicalement,

    Frenchy Friendly, & French touch !

    german
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  • From german newsgroups@usualsuspectrider@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun May 17 08:19:38 2026
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    we never know when the distiny will be very cool !
    --
    Amicalement,

    Frenchy Friendly, & French touch !

    german
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