so, u download a iso, and inside, u find all u need to burn
a DVD !
but, if u decompress it to do a hdd usb3 linux live, is not
exact the same ! is not the uuid dvd, they are a folder where
u 'll find the uuid drive, is file and inside u have the uuid
to boot a dvd burned.
[redacted]
clear communication is necessary for your requests to be understood.
On 4/20/2026 9:43 AM, german newsgroups wrote:
[redacted]
I understand that English may be your second language, but clear communication is necessary for your requests to be understood.
This is not a text/sms forum.-a Please try to use full words (e.g.
"you" instead of "u"), and full sentences with punctuation.
I would love to help you, but I simply can not understand what
you are asking.
german newsgroups wrote:
so, u download a iso, and inside, u find all u need to burn
a DVD !
but, if u decompress it to do a hdd usb3 linux live, is not
exact the same ! is not the uuid dvd, they are a folder where
u 'll find the uuid drive, is file and inside u have the uuid
to boot a dvd burned.
I'm not sure I understand; here's what I think you are talking about.
If you download a linux .iso, it is in the form of a disk image, which
was originally created for optical disks such as CD or DVD called ISO
9660 also known as El Torito, allegedly because that Mexican restaurant
was where the meeting for the format was concocted.
Alternatively, instead of writing/burning that to an optical, you can
write it to a USB, which has more flexibility. However, a USB is 'structured' more like a hard disk storage than an optical storage.
Consequently, it is necessary that you use the proper 'tools' or
software to write the .iso to a USB.
There is another variability: some .iso/s are hybrid ie El Torito AND
MBR, which is the conventional hard disk (also USB) structure, while
some are not.
I won't get into the fact that there are isolated linux .iso/s which
appear to be hybrid but are NOT conventional hybrid, ie Mageia.
If you are using Windows to write the .iso to USB, I recommend Rufus. If
you are using linux to write the .iso to USB, I guess I recommend
Etcher. It can also be done with dd.
Personally I have transitioned from writing .iso to USB and instead I
now prefer to use the Ventoy system which only requires *copying* the
.iso to the Ventoy structured USB or SSD or hdd.
On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:16:44 -0700
Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
german newsgroups wrote:IIRC grub can load from .ISO
so, u download a iso, and inside, u find all u need to burn
a DVD !
but, if u decompress it to do a hdd usb3 linux live, is not
exact the same ! is not the uuid dvd, they are a folder where
u 'll find the uuid drive, is file and inside u have the uuid
to boot a dvd burned.
I'm not sure I understand; here's what I think you are talking about.
If you download a linux .iso, it is in the form of a disk image, which
was originally created for optical disks such as CD or DVD called ISO
9660 also known as El Torito, allegedly because that Mexican restaurant
was where the meeting for the format was concocted.
Alternatively, instead of writing/burning that to an optical, you can
write it to a USB, which has more flexibility. However, a USB is
'structured' more like a hard disk storage than an optical storage.
Consequently, it is necessary that you use the proper 'tools' or
software to write the .iso to a USB.
There is another variability: some .iso/s are hybrid ie El Torito AND
MBR, which is the conventional hard disk (also USB) structure, while
some are not.
I won't get into the fact that there are isolated linux .iso/s which
appear to be hybrid but are NOT conventional hybrid, ie Mageia.
If you are using Windows to write the .iso to USB, I recommend Rufus. If
you are using linux to write the .iso to USB, I guess I recommend
Etcher. It can also be done with dd.
Personally I have transitioned from writing .iso to USB and instead I
now prefer to use the Ventoy system which only requires *copying* the
.iso to the Ventoy structured USB or SSD or hdd.
german newsgroups wrote:
so, u download a iso, and inside, u find all u need to burn
a DVD !
but, if u decompress it to do a hdd usb3 linux live, is not
exact the same ! is not the uuid dvd, they are a folder where
u 'll find the uuid drive, is file and inside u have the uuid
to boot a dvd burned.
I'm not sure I understand; here's what I think you are talking about.
If you download a linux .iso, it is in the form of a disk image, which
was originally created for optical disks such as CD or DVD called ISO
9660 also known as El Torito, allegedly because that Mexican
restaurant was where the meeting for the format was concocted.
Alternatively, instead of writing/burning that to an optical, you can
write it to a USB, which has more flexibility.-a However, a USB is 'structured' more like a hard disk storage than an optical storage.
Consequently, it is necessary that you use the proper 'tools' or
software to write the .iso to a USB.
There is another variability: some .iso/s are hybrid ie El Torito AND
MBR, which is the conventional hard disk (also USB) structure, while
some are not.
I won't get into the fact that there are isolated linux .iso/s which
appear to be hybrid but are NOT conventional hybrid, ie Mageia.
If you are using Windows to write the .iso to USB, I recommend Rufus.
If you are using linux to write the .iso to USB, I guess I recommend Etcher.-a It can also be done with dd.
Personally I have transitioned from writing .iso to USB and instead I
now prefer to use the Ventoy system which only requires *copying* the
.iso to the Ventoy structured USB or SSD or hdd.
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB stick"
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
Axel wrote:
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB
stick"
Doesn't always work. I've never been able to make a bootable
Windows-stick with this. Other iso's from other software often don't
work either.
BalenaEtcher is a bit better, but also not perfect.--
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
On 21/04/2026 16:12, Monsieur wrote:
Axel wrote:
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB
stick"
Doesn't always work. I've never been able to make a bootable
Windows-stick with this. Other iso's from other software often don't
work either.
I've never had an issue making a bootable USB stick from the *.iso. I
used it when a new version of LM came out - 20, 21, 22. What doesn't
work for you?
Monsieur wrote:
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
In my history of using .iso writing tools, coming from Win, initially my fave was a free HP proprietary. On his 'non-Rufus' site, Pete Batard
tells his initial story of creating Rufus to improve on that HPUSBFW.
https://pete.akeo.ie/2011/12/rufus-dos-bootable-usb-formatting.html
Monsieur wrote to alt.os.linux.mint <=-
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB stick"
Doesn't always work. I've never been able to make a bootable
Windows-stick with this. Other iso's from other software often don't
work either.
BalenaEtcher is a bit better, but also not perfect.
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
sorry ! i know u are, they are caca people !
On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 09:31:12 +0200, german newsgroups wrote:
sorry ! i know u are, they are caca people !
Tu |-cris comme |oa en fran|oais aussi?
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/04/2026 16:12, Monsieur wrote:
Axel wrote:
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB >>>> stick"
Doesn't always work. I've never been able to make a bootable
Windows-stick with this. Other iso's from other software often don't
work either.
I've never had an issue making a bootable USB stick from the *.iso. I used it when a new version of LM came out - 20, 21, 22. What doesn't work for you?
I've never had an issue with any Linux .iso either, those always work.
But try writing a Windows 10 or 11 .iso to a usb-stick and see if you can boot it,
it won't work. I also tried it with some .iso's from Paragon and Acronis disk tools,
they wouldn't boot either. This is why I switched to BalenaEtcher, although I haven't
used it much yet.
a Linux version that's as easy to use as Rufus on Windows.
But I don't boot live linux that way any more;
Axel wrote:
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable
USB stick"
Doesn't always work.
I've never been able to make a bootable Windows-stick with this. Other
iso's from other software often don't work either.
BalenaEtcher is a bit better, but also not perfect.
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
-aTo: Monsieur
Monsieur wrote to alt.os.linux.mint <=-
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB stick"
Doesn't always work. I've never been able to make a bootable Windows-stick with this. Other iso's from other software often don't
work either.
BalenaEtcher is a bit better, but also not perfect.
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
Use the command line "dd" like any serious Linux user would.
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly--
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:12:57 +0200, Monsieur wrote:
Linux really needs its own Rufus.I've replaced Rufus with Ventoy:
<https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html>
Once the flash drive is prepared you can simply drag the ISO files and
they will be available at boot.
Monsieur wrote:
Axel wrote:
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB stick"
Doesn't always work.
strange. always works for me
I've never been able to make a bootable Windows-stick with this. Other iso's from other software often don't work either.
BalenaEtcher is a bit better, but also not perfect.
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
Gamgee wrote:
-aTo: Monsieur
Monsieur wrote to alt.os.linux.mint <=-
in LM you can just right click on the ISO and select "make bootable USB
stick"
Doesn't always work. I've never been able to make a bootable
Windows-stick with this. Other iso's from other software often don't
work either.
BalenaEtcher is a bit better, but also not perfect.
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
Use the command line "dd" like any serious Linux user would.
what is the command code?
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
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Mike Easter wrote:
Monsieur wrote:Interesting read, but someone really should build a Linux version that's as easy to use as Rufus on Windows. I don't have the knowledge to do it myself I'm afraid.
Linux really needs its own Rufus.
In my history of using .iso writing tools, coming from Win, initially my fave was a
free HP proprietary. On his 'non-Rufus' site, Pete Batard tells his initial story of
creating Rufus to improve on that HPUSBFW.
https://pete.akeo.ie/2011/12/rufus-dos-bootable-usb-formatting.html
Le 22/04/2026 |a 05:08, Axel a |-crit-a:
Use the command line "dd" like any serious Linux user would.what is the command code?
if i give u this command line...the terroriste 'll do pollution in internet !
so you can use one USB as a bootable disk for multiple ISO's?
Paul wrote:
<about disktype>
Great idea. I should see what is wrong w/ the Mageia .iso that way.
I seem to recall that Rufus didn't like its condition; R does a little analysis before it starts its thing.
I've forgotten just what Rufus tho't.
The image you have selected is an ISOHybrid, but its creators have
not made it compatible with ISO/File copy mode. As a result, DD
image writing mode will be enforced.
On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 13:13:48 +1000, Axel wrote:
so you can use one USB as a bootable disk for multiple ISO's?Yes. During boot Ventoy will give you a list of which you can choose
from.
<https://www.ventoy.net/en/screenshot.html>
I have a dozen or so USB's with various OS's, so I will replace them
with just one
Mike Easter wrote:
Paul wrote:Let's see what I can learn from disktype comparing the LMDE .iso w/ Mageia's.
<about disktype>
Great idea. I should see what is wrong w/ the Mageia .iso that way.
I seem to recall that Rufus didn't like its condition; R does a little analysis before it starts its thing.
$ disktype lmde-7-cinnamon-64bit.iso
--- lmde-7-cinnamon-64bit.iso
Regular file, size 2.758 GiB (2960867328 bytes)
DOS/MBR partition map
Partition 1: 2.757 GiB (2960834560 bytes, 5782880 sectors from 64, bootable) -a Type 0x00 (Empty)
-a ISO9660 file system
-a-a-a Volume name "LMDE 7 Cinnamon 64-bit"
-a-a-a Publisher-a-a "LINUX MINT"
-a-a-a Preparer-a-a-a "LIVE-BUILD 20230502; HTTPS://SALSA.DEBIAN.ORG/LIVE-TEAM/LIVE-BUILD"
-a-a-a Application "LMDE LIVE"
-a-a-a Data size 2.757 GiB (2960834560 bytes, 1445720 blocks of 2 KiB)
-a-a-a Joliet extension, volume name "LMDE 7 Cinnamon"
Partition 2: 5 MiB (5242880 bytes, 10240 sectors from 4660)
-a Type 0xEF (EFI System (FAT))
-a FAT12 file system (hints score 4 of 5)
-a-a-a Volume size 4.975 MiB (5216256 bytes, 2547 clusters of 2 KiB)
GPT partition map, 208 entries
-a Disk size 2.758 GiB (2960867328 bytes, 5782944 sectors)
-a Disk GUID 32303235-3130-3047-B130-303632313333
Partition 1: 2.757 GiB (2960805888 bytes, 5782824 sectors from 64)
-a Type Basic Data (GUID A2A0D0EB-E5B9-3344-87C0-68B6B72699C7)
-a Partition Name "ISOHybrid"
-a Partition GUID 32303235-3130-3047-B131-303632313333
-a ISO9660 file system
-a-a-a Volume name "LMDE 7 Cinnamon 64-bit"
-a-a-a Publisher-a-a "LINUX MINT"
-a-a-a Preparer-a-a-a "LIVE-BUILD 20230502; HTTPS://SALSA.DEBIAN.ORG/LIVE-TEAM/LIVE-BUILD"
-a-a-a Application "LMDE LIVE"
-a-a-a Data size 2.757 GiB (2960834560 bytes, 1445720 blocks of 2 KiB)
-a-a-a Joliet extension, volume name "LMDE 7 Cinnamon"
Partition 2: 5 MiB (5242880 bytes, 10240 sectors from 4660)
-a Type Basic Data (GUID A2A0D0EB-E5B9-3344-87C0-68B6B72699C7)
-a Partition Name "ISOHybrid1"
-a Partition GUID 32303235-3130-3047-B132-303632313333
-a FAT12 file system (hints score 4 of 5)
-a-a-a Volume size 4.975 MiB (5216256 bytes, 2547 clusters of 2 KiB) Partition 3: unused
ISO9660 file system
-a Volume name "LMDE 7 Cinnamon 64-bit"
-a Publisher-a-a "LINUX MINT"
-a Preparer-a-a-a "LIVE-BUILD 20230502; HTTPS://SALSA.DEBIAN.ORG/LIVE-TEAM/LIVE-BUILD"
-a Application "LMDE LIVE"
-a Data size 2.758 GiB (2960867328 bytes, 1445736 blocks of 2 KiB)
-a El Torito boot record, catalog at 1164
-a-a-a Bootable non-emulated image, starts at 3725, preloads 2 KiB
-a-a-a-a-a Platform 0x00 (x86), System Type 0x00 (Empty)
-a-a-a-a-a ISOLINUX boot loader
-a-a-a Bootable non-emulated image, starts at 1165, preloads 5 MiB (5242880 bytes)
-a-a-a-a-a Platform 0xEF (EFI), System Type 0x00 (Empty)
-a-a-a-a-a FAT12 file system (hints score 4 of 5)
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Volume size 4.975 MiB (5216256 bytes, 2547 clusters of 2 KiB) -a Joliet extension, volume name "LMDE 7 Cinnamon"
==========
$ disktype Mageia-9-Live-Plasma-x86_64.iso
--- Mageia-9-Live-Plasma-x86_64.iso
Regular file, size 3.774 GiB (4052418560 bytes)
GRUB boot loader, unknown compat version 121
DOS/MBR partition map
Partition 2: 4 MiB (4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors from 7906088)
-a Type 0xEF (EFI System (FAT))
-a FAT12 file system (hints score 5 of 5)
-a-a-a Volume size 3.977 MiB (4169728 bytes, 2036 clusters of 2 KiB)
-a-a-a Volume name "MGAISO-ESP"
ISO9660 file system
-a Volume name "Mageia-9-Live-Plasma-x86_64"
-a Publisher-a-a "MAGEIA.ORG"
-a Preparer-a-a-a "DRAKISO"
-a Application "GNU XORRISO 1.5.2"
-a Data size 3.770 GiB (4047917056 bytes, 1976522 blocks of 2 KiB)
-a El Torito boot record, catalog at 65
-a-a-a Bootable non-emulated image, starts at 66, preloads 2 KiB
-a-a-a-a-a Platform 0x00 (x86), System Type 0x00 (Empty)
-a-a-a Bootable non-emulated image, starts at 1976522, preloads 4 MiB (4194304 bytes)
-a-a-a-a-a Platform 0xEF (EFI), System Type 0x00 (Empty)
-a-a-a-a-a FAT12 file system (hints score 5 of 5)
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Volume size 3.977 MiB (4169728 bytes, 2036 clusters of 2 KiB) -a-a-a-a-a-a-a Volume name "MGAISO-ESP"
-a Joliet extension, volume name "Mageia-9-Live-Pl"
==========
They are significantly different, but not in a way I understand yet.
I've forgotten just what Rufus tho't.
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