• Where is firefox 'executable'

    From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 13:43:28 2026
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    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers
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  • From Axel@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 23:53:30 2026
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    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2

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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 15:01:26 2026
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    On 1/3/26 1:53 PM, Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?


    Yes. Also Betterbird is the default 'Mail' program.
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  • From Axel@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Jan 4 01:07:44 2026
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    occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 1:53 PM, Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to >>> find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers
    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?

    Yes. Also Betterbird is the default 'Mail' program.

    what happens if you right clik the link? does it give the option "open
    with"?
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Jan 4 01:10:44 2026
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    Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 1:53 PM, Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea
    where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers
    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?

    Yes.-a Also Betterbird is the default 'Mail' program.

    what happens if you right clik the link? does it give the option "open with"?


    also.. why aren't you using Thunderbird? you shouldn't have this problem
    with TB
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2

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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 15:19:21 2026
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    On 1/3/26 3:01 PM, occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 1:53 PM, Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to >>> find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?


    Yes. Also Betterbird is the default 'Mail' program.

    Hmm... For reasons I do not understand, the problem has resolved itself.
    I can now launch Firefox from Betterbird, and more generally from any
    link with http:// (and https://) prefixes.

    Having set the 'Action' back to 'Use System Handler (default)', Firefox
    now pops up when I click on a link.
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 15:22:35 2026
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    On 1/3/26 3:10 PM, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 1:53 PM, Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make >>>>> things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in >>>>> Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea
    where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers
    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?

    Yes.-a Also Betterbird is the default 'Mail' program.

    what happens if you right clik the link? does it give the option "open
    with"?


    also.. why aren't you using Thunderbird? you shouldn't have this problem
    with TB


    There is no difference between TB and Betterbird. The code is the same. Betterbird is just better debugged. Two tribes working on the same code.
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 09:53:01 2026
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    On 1/3/26 9:19 AM, occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 3:01 PM, occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 1:53 PM, Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to >>>> find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?


    Yes. Also Betterbird is the default 'Mail' program.

    Hmm... For reasons I do not understand, the problem has resolved itself.
    I can now launch Firefox from Betterbird, and more generally from any
    link with http:// (and https://) prefixes.

    Having set the 'Action' back to 'Use System Handler (default)', Firefox
    now pops up when I click on a link.
    If you open the command prompt and tyep:
    whereis firefox
    it will tell you where it is. That will be the executable.
    --
    Linux Mint 22.2, Mozilla Thunderbird 140.6.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 146.0.1
    Alan K.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 14:46:15 2026
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    On Sat, 1/3/2026 9:19 AM, occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 3:01 PM, occam wrote:
    On 1/3/26 1:53 PM, Axel wrote:
    occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to >>>> find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    do you have FF set as default app in System Settings>Preferences?


    Yes. Also Betterbird is the default 'Mail' program.

    Hmm... For reasons I do not understand, the problem has resolved itself.
    I can now launch Firefox from Betterbird, and more generally from any
    link with http:// (and https://) prefixes.

    Having set the 'Action' back to 'Use System Handler (default)', Firefox
    now pops up when I click on a link.


    Note that, on Ubuntu, a lot of executables are packaged in SNAP packages, making it a lot harder to edit a .desktop file and define a menu entry properly.
    For the end user, a SNAP is extra work.

    snap run firefox # Just a guess, Goog is unsure.

    In LinuxMint or in the LMDE7 variant, the Synaptic package manager
    can make sense of the collection of installed .deb files. First,
    try to get synaptic to run in a Terminal

    which synaptic
    whereis synaptic
    synaptic # System responds with most likely require invocation

    sudo apt install synaptic
    sudo synaptic # Run package management, elevated. Click reload.

    If you "search" for Firefox, find the entry, do Properties or use
    a tab labeled for such purpose, it shows a file list.

    $ ls -al /usr/bin/firefox*
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Mar 5 2025 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox.sh

    $ ls -al /usr/lib/firefox
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 682152 Mar 5 2025 firefox
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2667 Mar 5 2025 firefox.sh <=== examine wrapper with xed text editor

    # xed /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.sh

    The execution of the wrapper, helps pre-define some environment variables
    for when the real "firefox" executes.

    Sometimes, you will see this sort of thing

    blah # This one is the wrapper (defines environment variables).
    blah-bin # This is what it calls for actual launch. ELF executable.

    I will switch installs, for a look for that bit.

    You can also locate the .desktop files (there is a folder for system ones
    and a folder for "personal" ones). You can open a .desktop with a tool specifically crafted for .desktop, or, you can use a text editor for a look. Or, even cat a file.

    whereis locate # Do I have a soft-linked locate tied to a flavor of "locate" command ?

    sudo apt install mlocate # This one will do. These have a config file, defining scope.
    sudo updatedb
    mlocate firefox # Give it a go, see what the plumbing finds.

    /usr/lib/firefox/firefox # This is the wrapper that adds environment variables before launch
    /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin # This is the raw executable (likely as fetched from the Mozilla site).
    # A huge "xul.so" may provide the real meaty ELF bits as a shared lib.

    /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop # system .desktop storage, permissions set for root to edit
    ~/.local/share/applications/ # Where personal .desktop files would go.

    apropos desktop # Consult some help for "where is my personal storage area".
    man desktop-file-edit # The help seems mostly generic here.
    man update-desktop-database # Something to do with MIMETYPE to launched application map. "mimeinfo.cache"

    So at least the MIME summary, is in the same folder as the system .desktop files.

    /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache

    Sleuthing the "empty" personal directory, was hard work.

    The mimeinfo.cache, once rebuilt, helps tie in helper apps to
    use to get things done. Maybe the system checks every once in a
    while to see if an update is needed.

    Paul



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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 22:17:02 2026
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    On 03/01/2026 12:43, occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Easiest way is within Firefox itself:
    Help | More Troubleshooting Information

    The ninth entry under the heading at the top "Application basics" is: Application Binary: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sat Jan 3 23:09:41 2026
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    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 13:43:28 +0100, occam wrote:

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux?

    ldo@theon:~> type -p firefox
    /usr/bin/firefox
    ldo@theon:~> ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Dec 19 11:22 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox
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  • From Ralph Fox@-rf-nz-@-.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Jan 4 13:41:24 2026
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    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 23:09:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 13:43:28 +0100, occam wrote:

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux?

    ldo@theon:~> type -p firefox
    /usr/bin/firefox
    ldo@theon:~> ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Dec 19 11:22 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox


    Your Firefox is apparently _not_ the one from the Mint repo.
    (The OP did not say where his Firefox was from.)

    -a-a-a me@localhost:~$ type -p firefox
    -a-a-a /usr/bin/firefox
    -a-a-a me@localhost:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
    -a-a-a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 168 Dec 10 03:33 /usr/bin/firefox
    -a-a-a me@localhost:~$ file /usr/bin/firefox
    -a-a-a /usr/bin/firefox: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
    -a-a-a me@localhost:~$ cat /usr/bin/firefox
    -a-a-a #!/bin/sh

    -a-a-a # if this isn't in the environment, firefox will forget it's the default browser
    -a-a-a export MOZ_APP_LAUNCHER=/usr/bin/firefox
    -a-a-a exec /usr/lib/firefox/firefox "$@"
    -a-a-a me@localhost:~$
    --
    Kind regards
    Ralph Fox
    EfaeN+A

    HerCO++t nerCOre have thing good cheap thatrCOs afraid to ask the price.

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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Jan 4 01:50:03 2026
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    On 2026-01-03, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Just type

    which firefox (in the terminal)

    It will show

    /usr/bin/firefox
    --
    Just because you play "dress up" doesn't
    mean I have to play "make believe."
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  • From Heinz Schmitz@sch@example.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Jan 4 10:30:57 2026
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    Paul wrote:
    Note that, on Ubuntu, a lot of executables are packaged in SNAP packages, >making it a lot harder to edit a .desktop file and define a menu entry properly.
    For the end user, a SNAP is extra work.
    SNAP is like a government inside a government.
    If you happen to have set up your system while they had snap already
    within, you just need a larger hard disk.
    If you are caught with a system while they make the transition to snap
    you are fu...d.
    Does any of the ubuntu programmers do use their system themselves?
    Regards,
    H.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Sun Jan 4 08:25:37 2026
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    On Sun, 1/4/2026 4:30 AM, Heinz Schmitz wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Note that, on Ubuntu, a lot of executables are packaged in SNAP packages,
    making it a lot harder to edit a .desktop file and define a menu entry properly.
    For the end user, a SNAP is extra work.

    SNAP is like a government inside a government.
    If you happen to have set up your system while they had snap already
    within, you just need a larger hard disk.
    If you are caught with a system while they make the transition to snap
    you are fu...d.

    Does any of the ubuntu programmers do use their system themselves?

    Regards,
    H.

    I suppose the staff at Canonical work there... because they are being paid.

    That is about the most charitable thing I can say.

    Modularity has known benefits. Who battles against modularity and why ???

    Paul

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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 04:32:32 2026
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    On 2026-01-04, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/4/2026 4:30 AM, Heinz Schmitz wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Note that, on Ubuntu, a lot of executables are packaged in SNAP packages, >>> making it a lot harder to edit a .desktop file and define a menu entry properly.
    For the end user, a SNAP is extra work.

    SNAP is like a government inside a government.
    If you happen to have set up your system while they had snap already
    within, you just need a larger hard disk.
    If you are caught with a system while they make the transition to snap
    you are fu...d.

    Does any of the ubuntu programmers do use their system themselves?

    Regards,
    H.

    I suppose the staff at Canonical work there... because they are being paid.

    That is about the most charitable thing I can say.

    Modularity has known benefits. Who battles against modularity and why ???

    Paul

    Modularity also has drawbacks, I use Flatpaks and AppImages only when I need the newest version of an application and there is no other choice.

    I don't like redundancy and bloat.
    --
    "Not just stupid... Trump stupid."
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 00:24:27 2026
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    On Sun, 1/4/2026 11:32 PM, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-01-04, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/4/2026 4:30 AM, Heinz Schmitz wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Note that, on Ubuntu, a lot of executables are packaged in SNAP packages, >>>> making it a lot harder to edit a .desktop file and define a menu entry properly.
    For the end user, a SNAP is extra work.

    SNAP is like a government inside a government.
    If you happen to have set up your system while they had snap already
    within, you just need a larger hard disk.
    If you are caught with a system while they make the transition to snap
    you are fu...d.

    Does any of the ubuntu programmers do use their system themselves?

    Regards,
    H.

    I suppose the staff at Canonical work there... because they are being paid. >>
    That is about the most charitable thing I can say.

    Modularity has known benefits. Who battles against modularity and why ???

    Paul

    Modularity also has drawbacks, I use Flatpaks and AppImages only when I need the newest version of an application and there is no other choice.

    I don't like redundancy and bloat.


    The .deb scheme works fine. It does not need another layer of nonsense
    on top of it.

    When you wrap something like Gnome up as a SNAP, any program
    which needs to refer to one of the GNOME internal debs, has to
    download the debs it needs separately. This basically doubles
    the downloads for graphical things (you paid for a SNAP but
    cannot reuse any of the contents).

    +------------------------+ The Gnome SNAP
    | Internal dependencies |
    | are included inside |
    | the SNAP and cannot |
    | be accessed |
    | externally. |
    | 1.deb 2.deb 3.deb | Access to the file system is "controlled"
    +------------------------+ for the executable in here.

    graphical-program
    1.deb (dependency, need to download)
    2.deb (dependency, need to download)
    3.deb (dependency, need to download)

    It's just a make work project.

    Debian seems to work fine without that. I download the dependency once.
    That's what I mean by modular. Shared libraries .so, we load them once
    and everybody can use them. Each of those .deb could have a library .so
    we need.

    some-gnome-thing
    1.deb (dependency, need to download)
    2.deb (dependency, need to download)
    3.deb (dependency, need to download)

    graphical-program (1.deb 2.deb 3.deb already on disk)

    Paul
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 06:48:13 2026
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    On 03/01/2026 23:17, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 03/01/2026 12:43, occam wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Easiest way is within Firefox itself:
    Help | More Troubleshooting Information

    The ninth entry under the heading at the top "Application basics" is: Application Binary:-a-a-a-a /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin


    Thanks. I'll remember that next time. (Ditto for Thunderbird/Betterbird.)
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 06:19:44 2026
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    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 00:24:27 -0500, Paul wrote:

    The .deb scheme works fine. It does not need another layer of
    nonsense on top of it.

    It does not. Not for open-source software, anyway. App developers
    donrCOt have to concern themselves with packaging: they just release the source, along with the relevant build scripts, and leave it up to the
    distro maintainers to create the actual packages. This way, a single
    app can support a thousand different distros, and a single distro can
    support a thousand different apps, and everything scales nicely.

    It's just a make work project.

    But remember why these whole snapimage/flap/apppak things were
    invented: they are oriented towards appeasing developers of
    *proprietary* apps. These are the people who donrCOt want to release
    their source code. So they moan about having to support a thousand
    different distros, as though itrCOs the fault of the Linx ecosystem that
    itrCOs so diverse. These monolithic adjuncts to the distro-specific
    packaging systems -- a parallel package universe, if you will -- are specifically designed to take control away from the users and the
    distro maintainers, and put it in the hands of those proprietary
    developers.
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 08:12:17 2026
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    On 04/01/2026 02:50, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-01-03, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Just type

    which firefox (in the terminal)

    It will show

    /usr/bin/firefox


    <smile> Can you tell I'm a recent convert to Linux? Until recently
    'type in the terminal' (a.k.a. Command Prompt) was code for 'go back
    into your cave'. I'm adapting.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 03:32:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Mon, 1/5/2026 2:12 AM, occam wrote:
    On 04/01/2026 02:50, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-01-03, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Just type

    which firefox (in the terminal)

    It will show

    /usr/bin/firefox


    <smile> Can you tell I'm a recent convert to Linux? Until recently
    'type in the terminal' (a.k.a. Command Prompt) was code for 'go back
    into your cave'. I'm adapting.


    You can use "env" to discover your Linux "path".
    "env" has a number of lines, and "path" is one of them.

    env

    PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games

    To print that out, we try

    echo $PATH

    /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games

    The "which" command, walks through that list of directories and checks them.

    For general searching, installing mlocate may help.

    sudo apt install mlocate
    sudo updatedb # create the database needed, takes a tree traversal to build it
    locate firefox # should find some matches quickly

    *******

    In the Windows Command Prompt, you would do "set" to
    get the environment variables. Then

    echo %path%

    C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\WINDOWS\System32\OpenSSH\;

    Windows also has some Registry entries with discrete paths for installed executables (that would not otherwise be in %path%). Firefox cannot be found
    as Firefox is not in the %path%. I have to pick something I know is in the path, for the command to find it for me. The shells aren't as good about
    any new features added to the OS.

    C: >where putty # Command Prompt
    C:\Program Files\PuTTY\putty.exe

    PS> where.exe putty.exe # Powershell
    C:\Program Files\PuTTY\putty.exe

    A program like Everything.exe can find items like firefox.exe .
    But it has to be set up to do it. Everything.exe is from https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/

    Paul

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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 09:08:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 05/01/2026 08:32, Paul wrote:
    On Mon, 1/5/2026 2:12 AM, occam wrote:
    On 04/01/2026 02:50, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-01-03, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to >>>> find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Just type

    which firefox (in the terminal)

    It will show

    /usr/bin/firefox


    <smile> Can you tell I'm a recent convert to Linux? Until recently
    'type in the terminal' (a.k.a. Command Prompt) was code for 'go back
    into your cave'. I'm adapting.


    You can use "env" to discover your Linux "path".
    "env" has a number of lines, and "path" is one of them.

    env

    PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games

    To print that out, we try

    echo $PATH

    /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games

    The "which" command, walks through that list of directories and checks them.

    For general searching, installing mlocate may help.

    sudo apt install mlocate
    sudo updatedb # create the database needed, takes a tree traversal to build it
    locate firefox # should find some matches quickly

    *******

    In the Windows Command Prompt, you would do "set" to
    get the environment variables. Then

    echo %path%

    C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\WINDOWS\System32\OpenSSH\;

    Windows also has some Registry entries with discrete paths for installed executables (that would not otherwise be in %path%). Firefox cannot be found as Firefox is not in the %path%. I have to pick something I know is in the path, for the command to find it for me. The shells aren't as good about
    any new features added to the OS.

    C: >where putty # Command Prompt
    C:\Program Files\PuTTY\putty.exe

    PS> where.exe putty.exe # Powershell
    C:\Program Files\PuTTY\putty.exe

    A program like Everything.exe can find items like firefox.exe .
    But it has to be set up to do it. Everything.exe is from https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/

    When I used Windows, everything.exe was one of the first utilities I
    installed as it was so fast.

    One thing Windows does (did? I stopped using it 10 years ago) better
    than Linux was finding the *.exe file of an app from the start menu. I
    think it was available from a right-click on the program name. But the
    Linux Mint menu doesn't have that facility (why not?). If you right
    click on a menu item you can choose "Properties" and an info box
    "Launcher properties" pops up. This has a "Command" line showing the
    name of the app and "Browse". I thought this would have linked to the
    binary which launched the app, but all it does is open the file manager
    at "Choose a command" with home/.bluefish highlighted no matter what app
    you originally left-clicked on.

    Perhaps the explanation is in the Mint forum somewhere, but...
    --
    Jeff
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 14:38:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 05/01/2026 10:08, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 05/01/2026 08:32, Paul wrote:
    On Mon, 1/5/2026 2:12 AM, occam wrote:
    On 04/01/2026 02:50, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-01-03, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make >>>>> things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in >>>>> Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' ->-a 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox-a program stored in Linux? (I have no idea
    where to
    find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Just type

    which firefox (in the terminal)

    It will show

    /usr/bin/firefox


    <smile> Can you tell I'm a recent convert to Linux?-a Until recently
    'type in the terminal' (a.k.a. Command Prompt) was code for 'go back
    into your cave'.-a-a I'm adapting.


    You can use "env" to discover your Linux "path".
    "env" has a number of lines, and "path" is one of them.

    -a-a-a env


    OK

    <snipped a lot of caveman stuff>


    A program like Everything.exe can find items like firefox.exe .
    But it has to be set up to do it. Everything.exe is from-a-a https://
    www.voidtools.com/downloads/

    I'll look for it. On Windows it is one of my favourite tools.


    When I used Windows, everything.exe was one of the first utilities I installed as it was so fast.

    Ditto.


    One thing Windows does (did? I stopped using it 10 years ago) better
    than Linux was finding the *.exe file of an app from the start menu. I
    think it was available from a right-click on the program name. But the
    Linux Mint menu doesn't have that facility (why not?). If you right
    click on a menu item you can choose "Properties" and an info box
    "Launcher properties" pops up. This has a "Command" line showing the
    name of the app and "Browse". I thought this would have linked to the
    binary which launched the app, but all it does is open the file manager
    at "Choose a command" with home/.bluefish highlighted no matter what app
    you originally left-clicked on.

    Perhaps the explanation is in the Mint forum somewhere, but...


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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 14:54:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 05/01/2026 09:32, Paul wrote:
    On Mon, 1/5/2026 2:12 AM, occam wrote:
    On 04/01/2026 02:50, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-01-03, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:
    I have just installed Linux mint (22.2) on a partition trying to make
    things work as they do under Windows.

    I have a working Firefox
    I have a working Betterbird (it's just like Thunderbird )

    I am trying to launch Firefox - by clicking on a link in a message in
    Betterbird. The way to do this is to is to set Firefox app as the
    'action' against the Content types 'http://' (and https://). (Found
    under 'settings' -> 'general' -> 'file & attachments'.)

    Where is the firefox program stored in Linux? (I have no idea where to >>>> find the 'executable'.)

    Thanks for any pointers

    Just type

    which firefox (in the terminal)

    It will show

    /usr/bin/firefox


    <smile> Can you tell I'm a recent convert to Linux? Until recently
    'type in the terminal' (a.k.a. Command Prompt) was code for 'go back
    into your cave'. I'm adapting.


    You can use "env" to discover your Linux "path".
    "env" has a number of lines, and "path" is one of them.

    env

    PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games

    To print that out, we try

    echo $PATH

    /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games

    The "which" command, walks through that list of directories and checks them.

    For general searching, installing mlocate may help.

    sudo apt install mlocate
    sudo updatedb # create the database needed, takes a tree traversal to build it
    locate firefox # should find some matches quickly

    *******

    In the Windows Command Prompt, you would do "set" to
    get the environment variables. Then

    echo %path%

    C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\WINDOWS\System32\OpenSSH\;

    Windows also has some Registry entries with discrete paths for installed executables (that would not otherwise be in %path%). Firefox cannot be found as Firefox is not in the %path%. I have to pick something I know is in the path, for the command to find it for me. The shells aren't as good about
    any new features added to the OS.

    C: >where putty # Command Prompt
    C:\Program Files\PuTTY\putty.exe

    PS> where.exe putty.exe # Powershell
    C:\Program Files\PuTTY\putty.exe

    A program like Everything.exe can find items like firefox.exe .
    But it has to be set up to do it. Everything.exe is from https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/


    I see that the nearest equivalent in Linux is 'FSearch'.


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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 10:27:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Mon, 1/5/2026 4:08 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:


    When I used Windows, everything.exe was one of the first utilities I installed as it was so fast.

    One thing Windows does (did? I stopped using it 10 years ago) better than Linux was finding the *.exe file of an app from the start menu. I think it was available from a right-click on the program name. But the Linux Mint menu doesn't have that facility (why not?). If you right click on a menu item you can choose "Properties" and an info box "Launcher properties" pops up. This has a "Command" line showing the name of the app and "Browse". I thought this would have linked to the binary which launched the app, but all it does is open the file manager at "Choose a command" with home/.bluefish highlighted no matter what app you originally left-clicked on.

    Perhaps the explanation is in the Mint forum somewhere, but...


    Windows shortcuts (with icon), have a small amount of info
    in them with a path and arguments, and that allows launching
    something which is not "in the current place".

    Paul
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 15:56:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 05/01/2026 13:54, occam wrote:

    A program like Everything.exe can find items like firefox.exe .
    But it has to be set up to do it. Everything.exe is from https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/


    I see that the nearest equivalent in Linux is 'FSearch'.

    Catfish (in the software manager) is worth a look.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.mint on Mon Jan 5 21:00:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On 2026-01-05, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/4/2026 11:32 PM, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-01-04, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1/4/2026 4:30 AM, Heinz Schmitz wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    Note that, on Ubuntu, a lot of executables are packaged in SNAP packages, >>>>> making it a lot harder to edit a .desktop file and define a menu entry properly.
    For the end user, a SNAP is extra work.

    SNAP is like a government inside a government.
    If you happen to have set up your system while they had snap already
    within, you just need a larger hard disk.
    If you are caught with a system while they make the transition to snap >>>> you are fu...d.

    Does any of the ubuntu programmers do use their system themselves?

    Regards,
    H.

    I suppose the staff at Canonical work there... because they are being paid. >>>
    That is about the most charitable thing I can say.

    Modularity has known benefits. Who battles against modularity and why ??? >>>
    Paul

    Modularity also has drawbacks, I use Flatpaks and AppImages only when I need
    the newest version of an application and there is no other choice.

    I don't like redundancy and bloat.


    The .deb scheme works fine. It does not need another layer of nonsense
    on top of it.

    When you wrap something like Gnome up as a SNAP, any program
    which needs to refer to one of the GNOME internal debs, has to
    download the debs it needs separately. This basically doubles
    the downloads for graphical things (you paid for a SNAP but
    cannot reuse any of the contents).

    +------------------------+ The Gnome SNAP
    | Internal dependencies |
    | are included inside |
    | the SNAP and cannot |
    | be accessed |
    | externally. |
    | 1.deb 2.deb 3.deb | Access to the file system is "controlled"
    +------------------------+ for the executable in here.

    graphical-program
    1.deb (dependency, need to download)
    2.deb (dependency, need to download)
    3.deb (dependency, need to download)

    It's just a make work project.

    Debian seems to work fine without that. I download the dependency once. That's what I mean by modular. Shared libraries .so, we load them once
    and everybody can use them. Each of those .deb could have a library .so
    we need.

    some-gnome-thing
    1.deb (dependency, need to download)
    2.deb (dependency, need to download)
    3.deb (dependency, need to download)

    graphical-program (1.deb 2.deb 3.deb already on disk)

    Paul

    I misunderstood. I was thinking of "modularity" as "modules" and applying
    that to Snaps, Flatpaks or AppImages.

    Sorry for my ignorance on the correct use of terms. I agree with you.
    --
    "Not just stupid... Trump stupid."
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.os.linux.mint on Tue Jan 6 00:51:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mint

    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 09:08:57 +0000, Jeff Layman wrote:

    One thing Windows does (did? I stopped using it 10 years ago) better
    than Linux was finding the *.exe file of an app from the start menu.
    I think it was available from a right-click on the program name. But
    the Linux Mint menu doesn't have that facility (why not?).

    Remember that Linux GUIs construct their elements, not out of simple (simplistic?) links directly to executables, but out of .desktop
    files, which have an extensible text-based format that can contain a
    bunch of info, including not just a command to execute, but also
    descriptive names in any human language.

    If you right click on a menu item you can choose "Properties" and an
    info box "Launcher properties" pops up. This has a "Command" line
    showing the name of the app and "Browse". I thought this would have
    linked to the binary which launched the app, but all it does is open
    the file manager at "Choose a command" with home/.bluefish
    highlighted no matter what app you originally left-clicked on.

    Presumably, this is a function of your GUI component that actually
    provides the application menu.

    On KDE Plasma, I have a choice of different widgets for this and other functions. Just to test, I tried right-clicking on the rCLFirefoxrCY item
    in the rCLInternetrCY submenu of my app menu, and in the popup menu that
    came up was the option rCLEdit Application...rCY.

    Selecting that brought up a dialog with, among other things, a
    rCLProgram:rCY field that contained the full path of the executable. Sure enough, clicking the icon next to it took me to a file picker
    positioned at the directory where that executable was to be found,
    with it preselected.
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