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faeychild wrote on 29/12/24 8:24 am:

On 28/12/24 19:20, Daniel70 wrote:

Oh!! You Hi-techie, you, faeychild!! ;-P

At this stage I'd say something like "I've got the DVDs and gotta find
something to do with them" .... mind you, in 'xx' years, I'll probably
have a 'Good' reason for using them and have run out!! ;-)

I have few left too, along with tower of CD's some dvd-rw and some dual layer. They are gathering dust. It has been quite some time since anyone asked me to burn a disc for them
-aI still have MGA6 partition because that's the only release that Dvdstyler still works with.
I know that when I blow that partition away I'll get a request for an authored DVD. So it remains

Yeap! Yeap! Yeap!
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I have a seperate Home in a seperate Partition, too!

Eternal Newbie here re. stuff like this...

How can you make a separate Home in a separate Partition ?
When installing I always make a 'separate partition' for /home... but what
is a "separate home " ?
What does it look like in the file system?
TIA

Santo
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 05:26:48 -0500, santo <nanci@auroville.org.in> wrote:

I have a seperate Home in a seperate Partition, too!

Eternal Newbie here re. stuff like this...

How can you make a separate Home in a separate Partition ?
When installing I always make a 'separate partition' for /home... but what
is a "separate home " ?
What does it look like in the file system?
TIA

When /home is in a separate partition, the root partition has a directory /home that is then
used as a mountpoint for the home partition.

Clear enough?

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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santo wrote on 29/12/24 9:26 pm:

I have a seperate Home in a seperate Partition, too!

Eternal Newbie here re. stuff like this...

How can you make a separate Home in a separate Partition ?
When installing I always make a 'separate partition' for /home... but what
is a "separate home " ?
What does it look like in the file system?
TIA

Santo

Santo, in a Konsole screen, try ...

lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL,UUID,PARTLABEL,PARTUUID

On my system that command showed something like (note Word-wrap might be
a problem) .....

[daniel@localhost ~]$ lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL,UUID,PARTLABEL,PARTUUID
NAME FSTYPE MOUNTPOINT LABEL UUID
PARTLABEL PARTUUID
sr0

sda

roLroCsda4
95aa95aa-04
roLroCsda2 ntfs /media/win Programs CE5405B65405A277
95aa95aa-02
roLroCsda12 ext4 0e296949-49e6-43fa-85ab-ceb140355b0b
95aa95aa-0c
roLroCsda9 ext3 / 2bc4c809-41bd-486f-a96b-26c07098e533
95aa95aa-09
roLroCsda10 ext3 /MGA4 a3352146-1b2c-4b7d-a231-2af6833ce797
95aa95aa-0a
roLroCsda7 ext3 /MGA3 1938a352-b26a-4e80-948f-13b2d32799d1
95aa95aa-07
roLroCsda5 swap [SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05
roLroCsda3 ntfs /media/win Games 306820F26820B88C
95aa95aa-03
roLroCsda1 ntfs /media/win C:\ E696C01496BFE36B
95aa95aa-01
roLroCsda13 ext4 / cb982d8d-8dab-4212-aa0b-b914add3931a
95aa95aa-0d
roLroCsda11 ext4 4feb7be2-35e8-4c8f-8069-aac8f5fdb61c
95aa95aa-0b
roLroCsda8 ext4 /home 68b05cbb-4d62-47eb-8060-fb051e261ae5
95aa95aa-08
rooroCsda6 ext3 /MDA2009 64135f6b-1cbb-4da2-8277-5fcd8edb16a4
95aa95aa-06
[daniel@localhost ~]$
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 19:26:10 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:

lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL,UUID,PARTLABEL,PARTUUID

thanks...as I said to David the wording has confused me a little...
Happy Different Year
:-)
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 00:13:48 -0500, David W. Hodgins wrote:

When /home is in a separate partition, the root partition has a
directory /home that is then used as a mountpoint for the home
partition.

Clear enough?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Yes thank you, the wording had confused me, I thought it was a way to
put /home somewhere totally different...
Happy Different Year
:-)
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On 30/12/24 20:53, santo wrote:

Yes thank you, the wording had confused me, I thought it was a way to
put /home somewhere totally different...
Happy Different Year
:-)

Yes indeed the AH-HA moment. I got a glimmer of peace from that myself.
I realized that this probably holds true for separate "TMP" partition also
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faeychild wrote on 1/1/25 8:31 am:

On 30/12/24 20:53, santo wrote:

Yes thank you, the wording had confused me, I thought it was a way
to put /home somewhere totally different... Happy Different Year
:-)

Yes indeed the AH-HA moment. I got a glimmer of peace from that
myself.

... which has to be better than the 'Huh!! WHAT??' moment. ;-)

I realized that this probably holds true for separate "TMP" partition

Umm! A couple of days ago, I posted the outcome of ...

[daniel@localhost ~]$ lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL,UUID,PARTLABEL,PARTUUID^C

For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ...

roLroCsda5 swap [SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05

... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust) Harddrive or is the
system actually using sda5 for Swap space??
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:30:07 -0500, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>

For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ...
roLroCsda5 swap [SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05
... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust) Harddrive or is the
system actually using sda5 for Swap space??

Check the output of the command "swapon -s".

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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David W. Hodgins wrote on 2/1/25 1:21 am:

On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:30:07 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>

For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ...
roLroCsda5-a swap-a-a [SWAP]-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 95aa95aa-05
... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust) Harddrive or is the
system actually using sda5 for Swap space??

Check the output of the command "swapon -s".

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. First time I tried it, I got zero
result ..... then thought maybe, if I do it as a SuperUser ....

[daniel@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost daniel]# swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used
Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 4088504 524 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#

So it's there but, to me, doesn't seem to be getting used much. Mind
you, this is just after I've cold booted this Laptop, so (if I remember)
I'll try again, in about four hours, just before I close down for the night.
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Daniel70 wrote on 2/1/25 7:53 pm:

David W. Hodgins wrote on 2/1/25 1:21 am:

On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:30:07 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: <snip>

For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ... roLroCsda5 swap
[SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05 ... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust)
Harddrive or is the system actually using sda5 for Swap space??

Check the output of the command "swapon -s".

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. First time I tried it, I got zero
result ..... then thought maybe, if I do it as a SuperUser ....

[daniel@localhost ~]$ su Password: [root@localhost daniel]# swapon
-s Filename Type Size
Used Priority /dev/sda5 partition
4088504 524 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#

So it's there but, to me, doesn't seem to be getting used much. Mind
you, this is just after I've cold booted this Laptop, so (if I
remember) I'll try again, in about four hours, just before I close
down for the night.

Here I am about five hours later, mainly doing UseNet reading, some game playing, and ....

[root@localhost daniel]# swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used
Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 4088504 26380 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#

so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB

Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 01:11:31 +1100, Daniel70 wrote:

Daniel70 wrote on 2/1/25 7:53 pm:

David W. Hodgins wrote on 2/1/25 1:21 am:

On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:30:07 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: <snip>

For my Harddrive and it showed (amongst others) ... roLroCsda5 swap
[SWAP] 923ff3f4-03c4-463b-a69a-35623f9ec731
95aa95aa-05 ... so am I wasting part of my (spinning rust)
Harddrive or is the system actually using sda5 for Swap space??

Check the output of the command "swapon -s".

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. First time I tried it, I got zero
result ..... then thought maybe, if I do it as a SuperUser ....

[daniel@localhost ~]$ su Password: [root@localhost daniel]# swapon
-s Filename Type Size
Used Priority /dev/sda5 partition
4088504 524 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#

So it's there but, to me, doesn't seem to be getting used much. Mind
you, this is just after I've cold booted this Laptop, so (if I
remember) I'll try again, in about four hours, just before I close
down for the night.

Here I am about five hours later, mainly doing UseNet reading, some game playing, and ....

[root@localhost daniel]# swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 4088504 26380 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#

so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB

Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??

That looks like 4 gigabytes swap space with 4 megabytes used. Trivial.

If you have top or htop installed on your machine, running one
of them from a command line might provide an overabundance of
information for you, particularly in the top few lines of the data
returned.

Cheers!

jim b.
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expects users to be computer friendly.
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On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>

so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??

Very small amount of swap used.

Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory and swap available
and used in megabytes.

The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/1/25 9:25 am:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>

so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David??-a Anyone??

Very small amount of swap used.

Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory
and swap available and used in megabytes.

The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[root@localhost daniel]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 3848 1199 1190 96 1458
2321
Swap: 3992 0 3992
[root@localhost daniel]#

I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:49:49 -0500, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/1/25 9:25 am:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>

so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??

Very small amount of swap used.

Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory
and swap available and used in megabytes.

The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[root@localhost daniel]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 3848 1199 1190 96 1458
2321
Swap: 3992 0 3992
[root@localhost daniel]#

I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(

It's an ordianry (read only) file.

$ ls -l /proc/swaps
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 31 12:29 /proc/swaps

As it's only readable by root or members of the root group, either make your id a member of
the root group or use "su -" in a terminal to access it.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 15:18:07 -0500, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:49:49 -0500, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/1/25 9:25 am:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>

so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David?? Anyone??

Very small amount of swap used.

Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory
and swap available and used in megabytes.

The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[root@localhost daniel]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache
available
Mem: 3848 1199 1190 96 1458
2321
Swap: 3992 0 3992
[root@localhost daniel]#

I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(

It's an ordianry (read only) file.

$ ls -l /proc/swaps
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 31 12:29 /proc/swaps

As it's only readable by root or members of the root group, either make your id a member of
the root group or use "su -" in a terminal to access it.

Oops. Ignore that. Others have read access too. Using dolphin as a regular user, /proc/swaps
is readable for me.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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On 3/1/25 18:49, Daniel70 wrote:

I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(

It does depend somewhat on how much ram there is

~]$ cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size
Used Priority
/dev/nvme0n1p3 partition 11146236
0 -2
[faeychild@unimatrix ~]$ free
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 32813348 3781228 24318264 52064 4713856
28564648
Swap: 11146236 0 11146236
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faeychild wrote on 5/1/25 8:55 am:

On 3/1/25 18:49, Daniel70 wrote:

I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(

It does depend somewhat on how much ram there is

~]$ cat /proc/swaps Filename-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Type-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Size
Used-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Priority /dev/nvme0n1p3-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a partition-a-a-a-a-a-a 11146236
0-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a -2
[faeychild@unimatrix ~]$ free
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a total-a-a-a-a-a-a-a used-a-a-a-a-a-a-a free-a-a-a-a-a shared-a buff/cache
available
Mem:-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 32813348-a-a-a-a 3781228-a-a-a 24318264-a-a-a-a-a-a 52064-a-a-a-a 4713856
28564648
Swap:-a-a-a-a-a-a 11146236-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 0-a-a-a 11146236

[root@localhost daniel]# cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used
Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 4088504 524 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#
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David W. Hodgins wrote on 5/1/25 7:21 am:

On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 15:18:07 -0500, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:49:49 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/1/25 9:25 am:

On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:11:31 -0500, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
<snip>

so the Used figure has increased from 524kB to 26,380kB
Does that indicate anything to you David??-a Anyone??

Very small amount of swap used.

Another command that may be of use is "free -m". That shows the memory >>>> and swap available and used in megabytes.

The file /proc/swaps contains size/used swap in bytes.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[root@localhost daniel]# free -m
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a total-a-a-a-a-a-a-a used-a-a-a-a-a-a-a free-a-a-a-a-a shared-a buff/cache
available
Mem:-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 3848-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 1199-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 1190-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 96-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 1458
-a-a 2321
Swap:-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 3992-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 0-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 3992
[root@localhost daniel]#

I went looking for /proc/swaps .... opened Dolphin, selected the /
drive, entered my password, then entered '/proc/swaps' in the Search
Field ..... Waiting .... Waiting!! ;-(

It's an ordianry (read only) file.

$ ls -l /proc/swaps
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 31 12:29 /proc/swaps

As it's only readable by root or members of the root group, either
make your id a member of
the root group or use "su -" in a terminal to access it.

Oops. Ignore that. Others have read access too. Using dolphin as a
regular user, /proc/swaps
is readable for me.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Lack of Knowledge, David. I was expecting it to be a file that I could
'see' on the su Dolphin screen .... but no, it would seem!!

faeychild has given me the clue to look for it with-in the su Konquer
screen ....

[root@localhost daniel]# cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used
Priority
/dev/sda5 partition 4088504 524 -2 [root@localhost daniel]#

So the Swap Partition is there .... if barely used.
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On 5/1/25 19:32, Daniel70 wrote:

faeychild wrote on 5/1/25 8:55 am:

[root@localhost daniel]# cat /proc/swaps Filename-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Type-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Size-a-a-a Used
Priority /dev/sda5-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a partition-a-a-a-a-a-a 4088504 524-a-a-a-a -2
[root@localhost daniel]#

You're looking safe - so far :-)
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faeychild wrote on 7/1/25 8:05 am:

On 5/1/25 19:32, Daniel70 wrote:

faeychild wrote on 5/1/25 8:55 am:

[root@localhost daniel]# cat /proc/swaps
Filename-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Type-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Size-a-a-a Used
Priority
/dev/sda5-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a partition-a-a-a-a-a-a 4088504
524-a-a-a-a -2
[root@localhost daniel]#

You're looking safe - so far :-)

Hmm!! Just as I keep telling myself I'm gunna install MGA9 .... in
preparation for installing the soon to be released MGA10.
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