• WHOIS is being replaced ...?

    From Ar@Ar@127.0.0.1 to alt.os.linux.mageia on Thu Dec 18 19:07:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.mageia

    The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP. But
    when you try it in Konsole you get ....

    rdap mageia.org
    bash: rdap: command not found


    There is no package called "rdap" in Mageia 9, x86_64.


    This notice when you run a Whois ..

    **NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our RDAP
    service instead.


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  • From red floyd@no.spam.here@its.invalid to alt.os.linux.mageia on Thu Dec 18 16:08:59 2025
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    On 12/18/2025 11:07 AM, Ar wrote:
    The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP. But
    when you try it in Konsole you get ....

    rdap mageia.org
    bash: rdap: command not found


    There is no package called "rdap" in Mageia 9, x86_64.


    This notice when you run a Whois ..

    **NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our RDAP
    service instead.



    Maybe openRDAP? -- DISCLAIMER I have not looked to see if it's
    included in M9.
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  • From David W. Hodgins@dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org to alt.os.linux.mageia on Fri Dec 19 13:15:28 2025
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    On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 14:07:13 -0500, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP. But
    when you try it in Konsole you get ....

    rdap mageia.org
    bash: rdap: command not found


    There is no package called "rdap" in Mageia 9, x86_64.


    This notice when you run a Whois ..

    **NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our RDAP
    service instead.

    Where are you getting that notice from?

    On my M9 install ...
    $ whois mageia.org
    Domain Name: mageia.org
    Registry Domain ID: REDACTED
    Registrar WHOIS Server: http://whois.gandi.net
    Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net
    Updated Date: 2025-05-29T23:22:38Z
    Creation Date: 2010-09-17T16:16:03Z
    Registry Expiry Date: 2027-09-17T16:16:03Z
    Registrar: Gandi SAS
    Registrar IANA ID: 81
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
    Name Server: ns1.mageia.org
    Name Server: ns0.mageia.org
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf/
    Last update of WHOIS database: 2025-12-19T18:13:45Z <<<

    For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

    Terms of Use: Access to Public Interest Registry WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator, a Registrar, or Identity Digital except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify
    existing registrations. All rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. The Registrar of Record identified in this output may have an RDDS service that can be queried for additional information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin, or Tech contact of the queried domain name.

    Same with google.com. No mention of rdap. Even with icann ...

    $ whois icann.org
    This domain is protected by the Registry Lock service. If you are the registrant and wish to take action on this lock, please contact your registrar.

    Domain Name: icann.org
    Registry Domain ID: REDACTED
    Registrar WHOIS Server: http://whois.cscglobal.com
    Registrar URL: http://www.cscglobal.com/global/web/csc/digital-brand
    Updated Date: 2025-01-31T20:19:44Z
    Creation Date: 1998-09-14T04:00:00Z
    Registry Expiry Date: 2028-12-07T17:04:26Z
    Registrar: CSC Corporate Domains, Inc.
    Registrar IANA ID: 299
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: domainabuse@cscglobal.com
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8887802723
    Domain Status: serverDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverDeleteProhibited
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited
    Name Server: ns.icann.org
    Name Server: a.icann-servers.net
    Name Server: b.icann-servers.net
    Name Server: c.icann-servers.net
    DNSSEC: signedDelegation
    URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://icann.org/wicf/
    Last update of WHOIS database: 2025-12-19T18:14:40Z <<<

    For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

    Terms of Use: Access to Public Interest Registry WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the Public Interest Registry registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and Public Interest Registry does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator, a Registrar, or Identity Digital except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify
    existing registrations. All rights reserved. Public Interest Registry reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. The Registrar of Record identified in this output may have an RDDS service that can be queried for additional information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin, or Tech contact of the queried domain name.


    Regards, Dave Hodgins
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mageia on Sat Dec 20 11:51:38 2025
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    David W. Hodgins wrote:
    Ar wrote:

    The Whois internet service is apparently being replaced with RDAP.

    **NOTICE** This WHOIS server is being retired. Please use our
    RDAP service instead.

    Where are you getting that notice from?

    https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-update-launching- rdap-sunsetting-whois-27-01-2025-en

    As of 28 January 2025, the Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP)
    will be the definitive source for delivering generic top-level
    domain name (gTLD) registration information in place of sunsetted
    WHOIS services.

    Users are encouraged to utilize ICANN's RDAP-based Lookup service at https://lookup.icann.org/en or ICANN's open-source command-line
    client hosted on GitHub. A list of other client implementations may
    be found on this page.

    https://github.com/icann/icann-rdap/wiki/RDAP-command

    https://rdap.rcode3.com/client_implementations/cli_applications.html

    However, the availability of rdap is not so wide; there is a rdap for
    Deb, but for such as Ub/s, there isn't a .ppa or a flatpak, but there is
    a Snap.

    OpenRDAP is written in Go; there is a rdap for Arch in the AUR.

    It seems to me that the conventional linux repo/s are 'backward' in this regard. rdap has been around a very long time.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mageia on Sat Dec 20 12:12:49 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    OpenRDAP is written in Go

    I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included the OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by default.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mageia on Sat Dec 20 12:18:17 2025
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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    OpenRDAP is written in Go

    I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included
    the OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by
    default.

    Ha.

    I didn't know about repology:

    https://repology.org/project/rdap/versions

    Repology monitors a huge number of package repositories and other
    sources comparing packages versions across them and gathering other information. Repology shows you in which repositories a given
    project is packaged, which version is the latest and which needs
    updating, who maintains the package, and other related information.

    Repology further illustrates the concept that a LOT of (most, almost all except...) linux distro/s do NOT have RDAP package in their repo/s.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From marc@marc@none.of.your.business to alt.os.linux.mageia on Tue Jan 6 14:42:53 2026
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    On 12/20/25 21:18, Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    OpenRDAP is written in Go

    I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included
    the OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by
    default.

    Ha.

    I didn't know about repology:

    https://repology.org/project/rdap/versions

    Repology monitors a huge number of package repositories and other
    sources comparing packages versions across them and gathering other
    information. Repology shows you in which repositories a given
    project is packaged, which version is the latest and which needs
    updating, who maintains the package, and other related information.

    Repology further illustrates the concept that a LOT of (most, almost all except...) linux distro/s do NOT have RDAP package in their repo/s.


    Maybe try: https://client.rdap.org/

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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mageia on Tue Jan 6 10:01:55 2026
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    marc wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    OpenRDAP is written in Go

    I booted a live LMDE LinuxMint DebianEdition and its repo/s included
    the OpenRDAP commandline client implemented in Go, not installed by
    default.

    Ha.

    I didn't know about repology:

    https://repology.org/project/rdap/versions

    Repology monitors a huge number of package repositories and other
    sources comparing packages versions across them and gathering other
    information. Repology shows you in which repositories a given
    project is packaged, which version is the latest and which needs
    updating, who maintains the package, and other related information.

    Repology further illustrates the concept that a LOT of (most, almost
    all except...) linux distro/s do NOT have RDAP package in their repo/s.


    Maybe try: https://client.rdap.org/

    I left all of the (stale) preceding untrimmed for 'direct' background
    context.

    My comments ranging from rdap to repology was all about the availability
    of *client packages* for openrdap in various distro/s.

    Your link is about the availability of a web-based rdap function.

    Lotsa diff between web-based rdap and a particular client package in a distro/s repo/s.

    There is also an openrdap site here:
    https://www.openrdap.org/
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.mageia on Tue Jan 6 10:49:13 2026
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    Mike Easter wrote:

    Your link is about the availability of a web-based rdap function.

    There is also an openrdap site here:
    https://www.openrdap.org/

    Now that I'm 'getting into' this, there is an interesting 'back story'
    (I LUV b/s) in its wp article about the problems w/ the development and
    the implementation, which has been going on for years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration_Data_Access_Protocol

    Things are still somewhat incomplete because of what might be considered
    the 'complexity' (not TOO bad) as well as the 'compliance' (limited to recency).

    For name registries, ICANN requires RDAP compliance since 2013.
    --
    Mike Easter
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