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Which Fedora Spin do you prefer using and why?

Or maybe you prefer mainstream desktop of Fedora (I guess that's Gnome?) ?!
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Which Fedora Spin do you prefer using and why?

None.

My Fedora installations are from the wash cycle, i.e. they predate the
spin cycle. I just keep upgrading it with "dnf upgrade".

I'm not really entangled with any other installation, thus don't know my
spin.

-- HASM


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On 23/12/2024 8:11 PM, HASM wrote:

Which Fedora Spin do you prefer using and why?

None.

My Fedora installations are from the wash cycle, i.e. they predate the
spin cycle. I just keep upgrading it with "dnf upgrade".

I'm not really entangled with any other installation, thus don't know my spin.

-- HASM

I didn't know Fedora had a rolling release.
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On 23/12/2024 8:11 PM, HASM wrote:

My Fedora installations are from the wash cycle, i.e. they predate the
spin cycle. I just keep upgrading it with "dnf upgrade".

On 2024-12-23, solid hyrax <solidhyrax@420blaze.it> wrote:

I didn't know Fedora had a rolling release.

There are rolling updates on a daily basis, picking up security fixes
and enhancements from upstream packages.

Twice a year (nominally in April and October) there is a "Major version upgrade", where everything has been rebuilt and tested together. The
rolling daily upgrade streams are incremental to a major version, but
stop when that release is about 14 months old.

My Fedora systems run "dnf update" every night, and get rebooted every
2-3 weeks to pick up kernel patches and clean out accumulated
dirt. I do the "dnf version-upgrade" about a month after the new
release comes out, but my "production systemes" usually stay one release behind. Thus, my "play" systems are now running F41, while my "serious"
systems are still on F40.

I find that Fedora is more stable for me than Windoes.

I also have a Fedora in a WSL virtual machine on my Windows 10 desktop.
I recently had a KDE application (digikam) fail in GUI initialization
after a "patch" update in KDE runtime (kf6-...) but that was only in the
WSL instance, and was fixed when the next round of kf6 libraries
appeared.

I run the basic Fedora Workstation (or in one instance Fedora Server)
but often add Xfce as an alternative desktop manager. I despise all the personalized distributions. I wish someone would bundle all the desktop customizations an an optional module in the main Fedora stream, so one
could just install the bundle and then say
"customize-desktop windows10-like".
Fragmentation of distributions is bad.
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On 23/12/2024 21:45, Lars Poulsen wrote:

On 2024-12-23, solid hyrax <solidhyrax@420blaze.it> wrote:

I didn't know Fedora had a rolling release.

There are rolling updates on a daily basis, picking up security fixes
and enhancements from upstream packages.

Twice a year (nominally in April and October) there is a "Major version upgrade", where everything has been rebuilt and tested together. The
rolling daily upgrade streams are incremental to a major version, but
stop when that release is about 14 months old.

*I* would not call that rolling release. I thought a rolling release
does without those (major) release issues ever so often. Otherwise any Linux/Unix release is a rolling release.

[....]

I run the basic Fedora Workstation (or in one instance Fedora Server)
but often add Xfce as an alternative desktop manager. I despise all the personalized distributions. I wish someone would bundle all the desktop customizations an an optional module in the main Fedora stream, so one
could just install the bundle and then say
"customize-desktop windows10-like".

Is it really that bad when various DM are offered as alternative? This
is in my view less clutter as opposed to have GNOME only and then have
to add on MATE or XFCE or KDE.

Leave them as vanilla as possible and let the final user do his
modifications. Nothing wrong with that in my view. I myself use a
heavily Fedora Mate (I came from the GNOME2 camp).

Fragmentation of distributions is bad.

Well, if there is more than just the DM, full-heartedly agree with you
there. Yet some graphical tools are then again depended on the DM
(DVD-Burning tools, media player and so on).

Spins (as in different DM as base) is not necessarily a bad thing
(Ubuntu does it, the Mate-family does it). Unless I have missed
something essential.
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Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> writes:

On 23/12/2024 8:11 PM, HASM wrote:

My Fedora installations are from the wash cycle, i.e. they predate the
spin cycle. I just keep upgrading it with "dnf upgrade".

On 2024-12-23, solid hyrax <solidhyrax@420blaze.it> wrote:

I didn't know Fedora had a rolling release.

There are rolling updates on a daily basis, picking up security fixes
and enhancements from upstream packages.

Yeah, but when I buy a new computer, I first do a fresh installation to
it, and only after that begin updates and upgrades.
My previous computer, which now is in the living room for streaming
Disney+ for the tv, is now 15 years old and predates separate spins if I remember correctly, but this one is built in 2020. I installed Fedora 31
KDE spin the day I brought it home, and have upgraded it all the way to
Fedora 41 with dnf upgrade and dnf system-upgrade.
So, KDE spin here.
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On 23/12/2024 21:45, Lars Poulsen wrote:

I run the basic Fedora Workstation (or in one instance Fedora Server)
but often add Xfce as an alternative desktop manager. I despise all the
personalized distributions. I wish someone would bundle all the desktop
customizations an an optional module in the main Fedora stream, so one
could just install the bundle and then say
"customize-desktop windows10-like".

On 2024-12-23, Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> wrote:

Is it really that bad when various DM are offered as alternative? This
is in my view less clutter as opposed to have GNOME only and then have
to add on MATE or XFCE or KDE.

Leave them as vanilla as possible and let the final user do his modifications. Nothing wrong with that in my view. I myself use a
heavily Fedora Mate (I came from the GNOME2 camp).

Fragmentation of distributions is bad.

Well, if there is more than just the DM, full-heartedly agree with you there. Yet some graphical tools are then again depended on the DM (DVD-Burning tools, media player and so on).

Spins (as in different DM as base) is not necessarily a bad thing
(Ubuntu does it, the Mate-family does it). Unless I have missed
something essential.

A spin is OK - in Fedora, it means a different starter kit for the distribution. In Fedora, you can start with a basic GNOME-centric Fedora Workstation (or even a headless Fedora Server) and add a module group
for Xfce or KDE. What I am wishing for is a simple way to try them out
and configure them to a handful of different "look and feel" setups.

But building a different distribution with its own repository in order
to achieve "the most Windows-like desktop" or "the ultimate productivity
system for engineers" can only lead to terrible framentation.
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On 26/12/2024 03:22, Lars Poulsen wrote:

On 23/12/2024 21:45, Lars Poulsen wrote:

I run the basic Fedora Workstation (or in one instance Fedora Server)
but often add Xfce as an alternative desktop manager. I despise all the
personalized distributions. I wish someone would bundle all the desktop
customizations an an optional module in the main Fedora stream, so one
could just install the bundle and then say
"customize-desktop windows10-like".

On 2024-12-23, Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> wrote:

Is it really that bad when various DM are offered as alternative? This
is in my view less clutter as opposed to have GNOME only and then have
to add on MATE or XFCE or KDE.

Leave them as vanilla as possible and let the final user do his
modifications. Nothing wrong with that in my view. I myself use a
heavily Fedora Mate (I came from the GNOME2 camp).

Fragmentation of distributions is bad.

Well, if there is more than just the DM, full-heartedly agree with you
there. Yet some graphical tools are then again depended on the DM
(DVD-Burning tools, media player and so on).

Spins (as in different DM as base) is not necessarily a bad thing
(Ubuntu does it, the Mate-family does it). Unless I have missed
something essential.

A spin is OK - in Fedora, it means a different starter kit for the distribution. In Fedora, you can start with a basic GNOME-centric Fedora Workstation (or even a headless Fedora Server) and add a module group
for Xfce or KDE. What I am wishing for is a simple way to try them out
and configure them to a handful of different "look and feel" setups.

Well, yeah, you can boot into the DM that you think may suit you best.
IMO is adding further just clutter (unless you have multiple users with
their own preference on the same box).

But building a different distribution with its own repository in order
to achieve "the most Windows-like desktop" or "the ultimate productivity system for engineers" can only lead to terrible framentation.

Fully ack.
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G.

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I just got done trying to upgrade 40 to 41,
tried the plasma but it died on me so I moved to the Cinnamon Spin and that seems to be fitting my needs...its sort of Win like with the start menu in
the same place and it played a sound on startup. I used straight Cinnamon
for a while on a 32 bit laptop years ago and it was quite stable.


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