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https://pastebin.com/raw/uYpta9eU for my sources.list comparison. I'll
do a backup, use bookworm v12's sources.list, time sudo apt-get clean &&
time sudo apt-get update && time sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, reboot, etc.
Will this be OK? I read https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
too.

http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/MyComputerStuff.txt for my setup (secondary PC is the one with Debian). Thank you for reading and
hopefully answering soon so I can try it later this week. :)
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ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) writes:

https://pastebin.com/raw/uYpta9eU for my sources.list comparison. I'll
do a backup, use bookworm v12's sources.list, time sudo apt-get clean && time sudo apt-get update && time sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, reboot, etc. Will this be OK? I read https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
too.

YourCOre missing non-free-firmware.
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Am 29.11.2023 um 06:46:25 Uhr schrieb Ant:

Subject: How does my upcoming Debian bookworm v12's sources.list and
plan look from updated bullseye v11?

Codename is changed and non-free-firmware is available and can be used
if needed in the sources.list.

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In alt.os.debian Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) writes:

https://pastebin.com/raw/uYpta9eU for my sources.list comparison. I'll
do a backup, use bookworm v12's sources.list, time sudo apt-get clean && time sudo apt-get update && time sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, reboot, etc. Will this be OK? I read https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
too.

You???re missing non-free-firmware.

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free

Better?
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In alt.os.debian Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

Am 29.11.2023 um 06:46:25 Uhr schrieb Ant:

Subject: How does my upcoming Debian bookworm v12's sources.list and
plan look from updated bullseye v11?

Codename is changed and non-free-firmware is available and can be used
if needed in the sources.list.

Is this better?

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
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Am 29.11.2023 um 17:19:34 Uhr schrieb Ant:

deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security
main non-free-firmware contrib non-free

Do you really need the dev-src lines to retrieve source code?
If not, disable them, so they are not being checked every time apt
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In alt.os.linux.debian Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

Am 29.11.2023 um 17:19:34 Uhr schrieb Ant:

deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security
main non-free-firmware contrib non-free

Do you really need the dev-src lines to retrieve source code?
If not, disable them, so they are not being checked every time apt
update runs.

Don't I need them for source codes to compile stuff when binary packages don't exist?
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Ant writes:

Don't I need them for source codes to compile stuff when binary
packages don't exist?

The source packages contain the source code from which the binary
packages were built.
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In alt.os.linux.debian John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Ant writes:

Don't I need them for source codes to compile stuff when binary
packages don't exist?

The source packages contain the source code from which the binary
packages were built.

I meant for programs that don't have Debian packages like old BitchX and others.
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Am 29.11.2023 um 22:32:24 Uhr schrieb Ant:

In alt.os.linux.debian Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

Am 29.11.2023 um 17:19:34 Uhr schrieb Ant:

deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security
bookworm-security main non-free-firmware contrib non-free

Do you really need the dev-src lines to retrieve source code?
If not, disable them, so they are not being checked every time apt
update runs.

Don't I need them for source codes to compile stuff when binary
packages don't exist?

You need them for retrieving source code of the debian packages. Those
packages are also available as binaries.

If you need to compile source code from elsewhere, you need compiler
tools, but those are in the normal binary repo and not in deb-src.

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Am 30.11.2023 um 03:27:57 Uhr schrieb Ant:

In alt.os.linux.debian John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Ant writes:

Don't I need them for source codes to compile stuff when binary
packages don't exist?

The source packages contain the source code from which the binary
packages were built.

I meant for programs that don't have Debian packages like old BitchX
and others.

For those the deb-src repos are unsuitable.

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In alt.os.debian Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

Am 30.11.2023 um 03:27:57 Uhr schrieb Ant:

In alt.os.linux.debian John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

Ant writes:

Don't I need them for source codes to compile stuff when binary packages don't exist?

The source packages contain the source code from which the binary packages were built.

I meant for programs that don't have Debian packages like old BitchX
and others.

For those the deb-src repos are unsuitable.

Interesting. Hmm, I need to remove their packages if they were
downloaded. How do I determine if they were downloaded and installed? I already upgraded to Bookworm last night with very few issues.
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Ant writes:

Interesting. Hmm, I need to remove their packages if they were
downloaded

They weren't. Don't worry about it.
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