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Recently installed Debian 12.1 Bookworm in my laptop. It comes with Firefox
ESR (102.15.1esr). Tried to download tin-current.tar.gz, from tin.org, but couldn't. Is there a way to enable the downloading function in Firefox?
Thanks in advance for any help.


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Am 19.09.2023 um 11:38:09 Uhr schrieb anonymous:

Recently installed Debian 12.1 Bookworm in my laptop. It comes with
Firefox ESR (102.15.1esr). Tried to download tin-current.tar.gz, from tin.org, but couldn't. Is there a way to enable the downloading
function in Firefox? Thanks in advance for any help.

sudo apt install tin
is the easiest way to get it.

You can also download the tarball, but you need to uncompress and
unpackt it to use tin.

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anonymous <anon@nomail.spam> wrote:

Recently installed Debian 12.1 Bookworm in my laptop. It comes with Firefox ESR (102.15.1esr). Tried to download tin-current.tar.gz, from tin.org, but couldn't. Is there a way to enable the downloading function in Firefox?

No, Firefox stupidly removed FTP support so that link won't work.
However you'll doubtless have wget installed so just use that on
the command-line:
wget ftp://ftp.tin.org/pub/news/clients/tin/stable/tin-current.tar.gz

However it looks like the version packaged for Debian 12 Bookworm
is the current stable version, 2.6.2, so unless you're unsatisfied
with the Debian package I'd suggest using that instead of compiling
from the source code at that download link.

If you haven't discovered package managers yet, then this is
certainly time to find out. You can use Apt from the command-line,
or you might already have Synaptic installed which is a graphical
alternative.
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Am 20.09.2023 um 07:46:20 Uhr schrieb Computer Nerd Kev:

No, Firefox stupidly removed FTP support so that link won't work.

That was in 2017 and the reasons were mostly stupid, but that is the
new tend of Mozilla.

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anonymous <anon@nomail.spam> wrote:

Recently installed Debian 12.1 Bookworm in my laptop. It comes with Firefox
ESR (102.15.1esr). Tried to download tin-current.tar.gz, from tin.org, but couldn't. Is there a way to enable the downloading function in Firefox? Thanks in advance for any help.

Thank you for your comments.I didn't know that Firefox in Debian had its download function disabled. Firefox in other linux distros had it enabled. Something which I found rather odd is that lynx is also unable to download
tin, something which doesn't occur in other distros.
The suggested procedure using wget really worked and I could download tin-current.tar.gz. But I couldn't figured out the suggested path by myself. How did you find it?
The reason why I want to download the tin source is to be able to configure
it to read the newsgroups offline. For pulling the messages from newsgroups I use slrnpull, installed using apt-get. Tin can also be installed using
apt-get but it doesn't read the directories where slrnpull places the messages.The tin newsreader I am using has been forced using static links
(ln -s ...).
I hope this explains the reason I want to get the tin source.

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Am 20.09.2023 um 10:46:34 Uhr schrieb Aelius Gallus:

anonymous <anon@nomail.spam> wrote:

Recently installed Debian 12.1 Bookworm in my laptop. It comes with
Firefox ESR (102.15.1esr). Tried to download tin-current.tar.gz,
from tin.org, but couldn't. Is there a way to enable the
downloading function in Firefox? Thanks in advance for any help.

Thank you for your comments.I didn't know that Firefox in Debian had
its download function disabled.

That is new to me, but FTP got removed in 2017.
Please specify the exact URL, so we can test.

Firefox in other linux distros had it enabled. Something which I
found rather odd is that lynx is also unable to download tin,
something which doesn't occur in other distros. The suggested
procedure using wget really worked and I could download
tin-current.tar.gz. But I couldn't figured out the suggested path by
myself. How did you find it? The reason why I want to download the
tin source is to be able to configure it to read the newsgroups
offline. For pulling the messages from newsgroups I use slrnpull,
installed using apt-get. Tin can also be installed using apt-get but
it doesn't read the directories where slrnpull places the
messages.The tin newsreader I am using has been forced using static
links (ln -s ...). I hope this explains the reason I want to get the
tin source.

Isn't there a setting to modify this path?

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Aelius Gallus wrote:
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The reason why I want to download the tin source is to be able to configure it to read the newsgroups offline. For pulling the messages from newsgroups I use slrnpull, installed using apt-get. Tin can also be installed using apt-get but it doesn't read the directories where slrnpull places the messages.The tin newsreader I am using has been forced using static links
(ln -s ...).
I hope this explains the reason I want to get the tin source.

i've been using leafnode for eons to download news.
leafnode is available via the usual apt interface to
the debian package repositories.

for reading news i've been using slrn for as long
as i've been using leafnode.


songbird
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Aelius Gallus <alexias@nomail.spam> wrote:

Thank you for your comments.I didn't know that Firefox in Debian had its download function disabled. Firefox in other linux distros had it enabled. Something which I found rather odd is that lynx is also unable to download tin, something which doesn't occur in other distros.
The suggested procedure using wget really worked and I could download tin-current.tar.gz. But I couldn't figured out the suggested path by myself. How did you find it?

I just copied the URL of the "Download the latest stable TIN
version!" link at http://www.tin.org/ after checking that the FTP
directory listed OK in Dillo (which does still support FTP). Maybe
you copied only part of the URL by mistake? Firefox can make
selecting things in the URL box rather unpredictable.

The reason why I want to download the tin source is to be able to configure it to read the newsgroups offline. For pulling the messages from newsgroups I use slrnpull, installed using apt-get. Tin can also be installed using apt-get but it doesn't read the directories where slrnpull places the messages.The tin newsreader I am using has been forced using static links
(ln -s ...).
I hope this explains the reason I want to get the tin source.

Yes fair enough.
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

Aelius Gallus <alexias@nomail.spam> wrote:

Thank you for your comments.I didn't know that Firefox in Debian had its
download function disabled. Firefox in other linux distros had it enabled. >> Something which I found rather odd is that lynx is also unable to download >> tin, something which doesn't occur in other distros.
The suggested procedure using wget really worked and I could download
tin-current.tar.gz. But I couldn't figured out the suggested path by
myself. How did you find it?

I just copied the URL of the "Download the latest stable TIN
version!" link at http://www.tin.org/ after checking that the FTP
directory listed OK in Dillo (which does still support FTP). Maybe
you copied only part of the URL by mistake? Firefox can make
selecting things in the URL box rather unpredictable.

The reason why I want to download the tin source is to be able to configure >> it to read the newsgroups offline. For pulling the messages from newsgroups >> I use slrnpull, installed using apt-get. Tin can also be installed using
apt-get but it doesn't read the directories where slrnpull places the
messages.The tin newsreader I am using has been forced using static links
(ln -s ...).
I hope this explains the reason I want to get the tin source.

Yes fair enough.

You always learn someting from the experts. Thank you.

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Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

Am 20.09.2023 um 10:46:34 Uhr schrieb Aelius Gallus:

anonymous <anon@nomail.spam> wrote:

Recently installed Debian 12.1 Bookworm in my laptop. It comes with
Firefox ESR (102.15.1esr). Tried to download tin-current.tar.gz,
from tin.org, but couldn't. Is there a way to enable the
downloading function in Firefox? Thanks in advance for any help.

Thank you for your comments.I didn't know that Firefox in Debian had
its download function disabled.

That is new to me, but FTP got removed in 2017.
Please specify the exact URL, so we can test.

URL: www.tin.org

Firefox in other linux distros had it enabled. Something which I
found rather odd is that lynx is also unable to download tin,
something which doesn't occur in other distros. The suggested
procedure using wget really worked and I could download
tin-current.tar.gz. But I couldn't figured out the suggested path by
myself. How did you find it? The reason why I want to download the
tin source is to be able to configure it to read the newsgroups
offline. For pulling the messages from newsgroups I use slrnpull,
installed using apt-get. Tin can also be installed using apt-get but
it doesn't read the directories where slrnpull places the
messages.The tin newsreader I am using has been forced using static
links (ln -s ...). I hope this explains the reason I want to get the
tin source.

Isn't there a setting to modify this path?

The only way I know is decompressing the tin-current.tar.gz and
configure the path ("./configure ..."), followed by "make build" and
"make install" which, I think, are in the tin documentation.

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songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:

Aelius Gallus wrote:
...

The reason why I want to download the tin source is to be able to configure >> it to read the newsgroups offline. For pulling the messages from newsgroups >> I use slrnpull, installed using apt-get. Tin can also be installed using
apt-get but it doesn't read the directories where slrnpull places the
messages.The tin newsreader I am using has been forced using static links
(ln -s ...).
I hope this explains the reason I want to get the tin source.

i've been using leafnode for eons to download news.
leafnode is available via the usual apt interface to
the debian package repositories.

for reading news i've been using slrn for as long
as i've been using leafnode.

songbird

Thank you for the hint about leafnode. I those early years I heard about leafnode but never tried it, probably I was daunted by the idea of even
trying. I tried several newsreaders, including slrn, which included
slrnpull to pull the messages from the newsgroups. In the end I finished
using tin, and slrnpull (as part of slrn), as an offline newsreader.


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Am 21.09.2023 um 04:29:33 Uhr schrieb Aelius Gallus:

URL: www.tin.org

That is not the URL of the file.

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Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

Am 21.09.2023 um 04:29:33 Uhr schrieb Aelius Gallus:

URL: www.tin.org

That is not the URL of the file.

If it isn't, it must be what "Computer Nerd Kev" found out:

No, Firefox stupidly removed FTP support so that link won't work.
However you'll doubtless have wget installed so just use that on
the command-line:
wget ftp://ftp.tin.org/pub/news/clients/tin/stable/tin-current.tar.gz

His complete message is in the present thread.

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