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Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
ease back toward $300.

Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

Meanwhile some unknown makes

(V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
Netac 4tb $5`00cad

but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
or Hormuz ones?



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On Wed, 5/6/2026 10:00 PM, bad sector wrote:

Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another which was $400
but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would ease back toward $300.

Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

Meanwhile some unknown makes

(V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
Netac 4tb $5`00cad

but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

What the hell is going on?-a Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects or Hormuz ones?

It's the AI and so-called "data centers" that are eating up
NAND Flash and DRAM. The SSDs are at about 4X the normal price.

If someone is selling you a device for $111cad, that would be
a "fraud-mobile" :-)

I was at the computer store a while back, and a guy is speccing
a home build, everything is fine on CPU and motherboard,
and then he asks for 64GB of DRAM. And the clerk says
"that'll be $1200 and would you like financing with that" :-)
Like he was buying a used car or something. And the scowl
on the customers face... Priceless.

It's like checking the prices on unicorns now.

Paul
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On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
or Hormuz ones?

Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?
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On 2026-05-07 19:01, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
or Hormuz ones?

Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?

Not every body is buying hardware every day. I haven't bought any disk
or any ram since before the fad. I don't know the prices. I hear
rumours, that is.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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On 5/7/26 1:02 AM, Paul wrote:

On Wed, 5/6/2026 10:00 PM, bad sector wrote:

Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another which was $400
but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would ease back toward $300.

Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

Meanwhile some unknown makes

(V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
Netac 4tb $5`00cad

but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

What the hell is going on?-a Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects or Hormuz ones?

It's the AI and so-called "data centers" that are eating up
NAND Flash and DRAM. The SSDs are at about 4X the normal price.

If someone is selling you a device for $111cad, that would be
a "fraud-mobile" :-)

I was at the computer store a while back, and a guy is speccing
a home build, everything is fine on CPU and motherboard,
and then he asks for 64GB of DRAM. And the clerk says
"that'll be $1200 and would you like financing with that" :-)
Like he was buying a used car or something. And the scowl
on the customers face... Priceless.

It's like checking the prices on unicorns now.

Paul

Fear not, George Soros or flunky jr. will save the day with 'interest
only' loans! It's time for 'community' action, fill the ether with the
fact that AI is just a glorified, overpriced and oversold search engine,
and press repreentatives for rumors of legislation prohibiting
unrestricted storage of other people's data. That together should help
deflate the bubble and maybe even accellerate the bust that might be
coming anyway. I dunno how the chineses pay $1600 for an ssd though?

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On Thu, 7 May 2026 20:16:46 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2026-05-07 19:01, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
or Hormuz ones?

Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?

Not every body is buying hardware every day. I haven't bought any disk
or any ram since before the fad. I don't know the prices. I hear
rumours, that is.

I haven't bought new hardware recently but I do read the tech news sites.
Even the price of a Raspberry Pi has been driven up to the point where it
is not attractive. When people found they could use GPUs for bitcoin
mining the price of video cards rose to ridiculous levels but this is a
more general problem.

Trump's 'we aren't at war' thrashing around has much broader
implications.
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On 2026-05-08 21:26, rbowman wrote:

On Thu, 7 May 2026 20:16:46 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2026-05-07 19:01, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects >>>> or Hormuz ones?

Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?

Not every body is buying hardware every day. I haven't bought any disk
or any ram since before the fad. I don't know the prices. I hear
rumours, that is.

I haven't bought new hardware recently but I do read the tech news sites. Even the price of a Raspberry Pi has been driven up to the point where it
is not attractive. When people found they could use GPUs for bitcoin
mining the price of video cards rose to ridiculous levels but this is a
more general problem.

I know that memory and disk prices have gone up (a lot), but I don't
actually realize how much till I try to buy something. It is a somewhat
remote knowledge.

Trump's 'we aren't at war' thrashing around has much broader
implications.

Uff... :-(
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Cheers, Carlos.
ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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bad sector wrote:

Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
ease back toward $300.

Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

n233 on amazon.de: https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datennbertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
roughly $375 cad.
No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

-jw-
--
And now for something completely different...
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On Sat, 5/9/2026 7:27 AM, Joerg Walther wrote:

bad sector wrote:

Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
ease back toward $300.

Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

n233 on amazon.de: https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datennbertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
roughly $375 cad.
No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

-jw-

That's for a 1TB 870evo.

At the bottom of the page, you can see another entry for the 4TB one.

893 Euro = 1,439.47 Canadian Dollar (amazon.de)

The entry at my (Canadian) computer store is (suspiciously, double)

Samsung 870 EVO 4TB SATA III Solid State Drive $2,819.99

The Newegg USA entry in USD is

SAMSUNG 870 EVO 4TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-77E4T0B/AM)
Model #: MZ-77E4T0B/AM

$1,799.99 USD and if I multiply by 1.5x would be $2700 or so

At a guess, that's probably a tariff of some sort.

*******

So let's buy a 270K processor. My computer store lists:

Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) $439.99 CDN

which would be about 273 Euro. What is your price like on that one, as
that might be considered "made in USA" so the tariff might be different ?

It's not really important, as nobody is going to be buying one
of those 870 EVO 4TB at prices like this anyway. Back when this
tariffing thing was in play, an economist said "tariffs above 50%
stop trade completely", which is a shrewd guess.

Paul
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Paul wrote:

n233 on amazon.de:
https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datennbertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
roughly $375 cad.
No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

That's for a 1TB 870evo.

At the bottom of the page, you can see another entry for the 4TB one.

In your posting you did not mention that this was about the 4TB model,
which btw is n758.
I bought the 1tb model in 2023 fnr about n100.

-jw-
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On Sat, 5/9/2026 11:54 AM, Joerg Walther wrote:

Paul wrote:

n233 on amazon.de:
https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datennbertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
roughly $375 cad.
No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

That's for a 1TB 870evo.

At the bottom of the page, you can see another entry for the 4TB one.

In your posting you did not mention that this was about the 4TB model,
which btw is n758.
I bought the 1tb model in 2023 fnr about n100.

-jw-

That's because we're offered differential pricing.
Nothing is "honest" on the Internet. Amazon can
quote you different prices, if you check the price
several times over a matter of days.

Ask two of your countrymen, to check the Amazon
site at the same time, and see if they are quoted the
same price.

That's why using Amazon as a pricing metric, carries
some amount of risk.

The very first time I did business with Amazon, they
did a bait and switch. It took me a month to unwind that
and get my money back. The result of them doing that
on the very first purchase, is I have not done business
with Amazon ever again. They can "take their merch and shove it".

Paul
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On 2026-05-07, bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
ease back toward $300.

Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

Meanwhile some unknown makes

(V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
Netac 4tb $5`00cad

but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
or Hormuz ones?

The demand for memory caused by AI has gone through the roof. So there is
now a world wide memory shortage. Supply and demand rules okay.

It has happened before, floods in Thailand reduced the supply.

It also seems that even the old spinning disks are having a price increase.
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On Wed, 5/13/2026 5:19 PM, Gordon wrote:

On 2026-05-07, bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:

Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
ease back toward $300.

Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

Meanwhile some unknown makes

(V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
Netac 4tb $5`00cad

but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
or Hormuz ones?

The demand for memory caused by AI has gone through the roof. So there is
now a world wide memory shortage. Supply and demand rules okay.

It has happened before, floods in Thailand reduced the supply.

It also seems that even the old spinning disks are having a price increase.

For memory, it's "wafer starts". There are fewer DDR5 wafers going
through, because HBM3e wafers are going through in their place. It is
hard to guess, whether DDR4 wafer starts happen any more. At one
point, DDR4 was semi-officially stopped all round, they saw the
prices they were getting for DDR4, and restarted production. But
some rules say that the DDR4 has to stop... eventually. They cannot
rely on some sort of third-world sales model to make DDR4 look good.

Hard drives are much weirdness. On the one hand, Western Digital
claims to be "sold out for 2026", yet batches of consumer drives
keep showing up at the computer store. I suspect my computer
store is working on a "speculation model" and hoping to ride
the wave of increasing price on the drives. And that, really,
is the only reason there is stock. For example, one day last
year, there was only *one* HDD inside the entire computer store :-)
That's how low the stocking level was allowed to slide. They've
bulked up since then, but presumably to harvest the extra
$100 bills as the price climbs. They "know" they're not
taking a bath on those drives "next week".

Paul
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