• Re: bad discussion

    From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to alt.os.linux on Tue Jun 2 16:37:19 2026
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    Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> writes:

    On 30.05.2026 23:37 David Chmelik wrote:

    * people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than Slackware
    (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being discussed (not for
    most newbies) know what they're talking about

    What means newer than Slackware?

    I guess it could mean younger than Slackware, i.e. born after 17 July
    1993 and so would be now at most 32 years old. Interesting choice but
    likely arbitrary.
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  • From Jim Diamond@zsd@jdvb.ca to alt.os.linux on Tue Jun 2 16:56:04 2026
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    On 2026-06-01 at 15:21 ADT, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 6/1/2026 6:45 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

    On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:
    * people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
    Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
    discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
    * people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
    (mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
    already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say
    that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe
    more than some web-forums.

    There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without
    getting ignored or attacked for nothing.


    Not all the young people are happy right now.

    Does that apply to old one?


    They're not quite as challenged.

    I could paint a picture of what the future will bring,
    when I tell you that the absenteeism rate in high school
    at the moment is 30%. When I went to school, we had a
    way of estimating this for ourselves, and the number
    was 5% or so.

    30% ? Where? Everywhere in the world? Your home town? ...?

    I'm sort of curious where this statistic applies to. Can you enlighten us?

    Thanks.
    Jim
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux on Tue Jun 2 16:14:30 2026
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    On Tue, 6/2/2026 3:56 PM, Jim Diamond wrote:
    On 2026-06-01 at 15:21 ADT, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 6/1/2026 6:45 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

    On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:
    * people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
    Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
    discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
    * people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
    (mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
    already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say
    that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe
    more than some web-forums.

    There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without >>>>> getting ignored or attacked for nothing.


    Not all the young people are happy right now.

    Does that apply to old one?


    They're not quite as challenged.

    I could paint a picture of what the future will bring,
    when I tell you that the absenteeism rate in high school
    at the moment is 30%. When I went to school, we had a
    way of estimating this for ourselves, and the number
    was 5% or so.

    30% ? Where? Everywhere in the world? Your home town? ...?

    I'm sort of curious where this statistic applies to. Can you enlighten us?

    Thanks.
    Jim


    It doesn't really matter, does it ?

    What matters is that you should keep your eyes open
    for what is happening where *you* live.

    When you walk along a sidewalk, and a young person is wrapped in a
    sleeping bag, right on the edge of the sidewalk, that's a little unusual
    don't you think ? How would that happen ? Why would that happen ?
    The individual wasn't even drinking age.

    That's your society, falling apart while you watch.

    Presumably Jim, by reading this thread and being curious
    why young people would be cranky, your curiosity would be
    aroused as to whether the young people where you live,
    are cranky.

    Paul
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  • From Jim Diamond@zsd@jdvb.ca to alt.os.linux on Fri Jun 5 19:29:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux

    On 2026-06-02 at 17:14 ADT, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 6/2/2026 3:56 PM, Jim Diamond wrote:
    On 2026-06-01 at 15:21 ADT, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 6/1/2026 6:45 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 31.05.2026 07:03 Paul Paul wrote:

    On Sat, 5/30/2026 7:37 PM, David Chmelik wrote:
    * people on GNU/Linux forums/listservs that are newer than
    Slackware (mostly): don't reply, but for the threads being
    discussed (not for most newbies) know what they're talking about
    * people on GNU/Linux chat rooms that are newer than Slackware
    (mostly): don't pay attention until they jump in and ask what you
    already said, and when you say scroll back, they get angry and say >>>>>> that's rude, and know less than people on Usenet forums, but maybe >>>>>> more than some web-forums.

    There's almost no way to ever get help from these autistics without >>>>>> getting ignored or attacked for nothing.


    Not all the young people are happy right now.

    Does that apply to old one?


    They're not quite as challenged.

    I could paint a picture of what the future will bring,
    when I tell you that the absenteeism rate in high school
    at the moment is 30%. When I went to school, we had a
    way of estimating this for ourselves, and the number
    was 5% or so.

    30% ? Where? Everywhere in the world? Your home town? ...?

    I'm sort of curious where this statistic applies to. Can you enlighten us?

    Thanks.
    Jim


    It doesn't really matter, does it ?

    I think it does matter. Is that 30% in one utterly dysfunctional town/city/village somewhere in the world, or does that 30% represent some world-wide average? These are two widely different situations.

    What matters is that you should keep your eyes open
    for what is happening where *you* live.

    I don't disagree. But if you are telling me that 30% absenteeism around
    where I live is the case, then my level of concern has gone up a fair bit.

    When you walk along a sidewalk, and a young person is wrapped in a
    sleeping bag, right on the edge of the sidewalk, that's a little unusual don't you think ?

    Very unusual, fortunately.

    How would that happen ? Why would that happen ? The individual wasn't
    even drinking age.

    That's your society, falling apart while you watch.

    Well, my society is not perfect. But I haven't heard of any young people
    in that situation. Late teens and twenties who for whatever reason have
    gotten addicted to drugs is bad, but "young" would be even worse.

    Presumably Jim, by reading this thread and being curious
    why young people would be cranky, your curiosity would be
    aroused as to whether the young people where you live,
    are cranky.

    Most of them are too busy looking at their phones to be cranky.

    Jim
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