• a Phomvihane 1956-1926

    From Louis Epstein@le@lekno.ws to alt.obituaries on Sun Aug 9 14:55:03 2026
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    The Wikipedes are reporting the death of the
    president of the National Assembly of Laos,
    born December 12th 1956,on August 8th 2026,
    citing vientianetimes.org as source.

    The deaths list links his bio article titled
    "Xaysomphone Phomvihane",though the article
    itself just as often spells his given name
    "Xaysomphene" and the article on his brother
    Thongsavanh (the Foreign Minister,who turns 62 today,
    August 9th) links him as "Saysomphone",which
    redirects.

    I would have thought that with spelling so
    unclear someone might *say something*,the
    similiarity to which of the name variants
    is why I'm bothering to write this article.

    These Phomvihanes were sons of the former
    prime minister,president,and party chief
    Kaysone Phomvihane,who was the political leader
    of the Pathet Lao alongside military leader
    Khamtai Siphandon(e) whose son is now
    prime minister and whose daughter is vice
    president...he also moved up to those top jobs
    after the elder Phomvihane's death.

    It seems the fight to overthrow the monarchy
    didn't end hereditary leadership there.

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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to alt.obituaries on Sun Aug 9 12:04:29 2026
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    Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:

    I would have thought that with spelling so
    unclear someone might *say something*,the
    similiarity to which of the name variants
    is why I'm bothering to write this article.

    It's not spelled with Roman letters. It's spelled with characters whose
    sounds don't transliterate directly. I can't even wrap my mouth around
    all the weird Thai consonants let alone the Laotian ones.

    And unfortunately they don't have a committee to create a standard method
    for transliteration the way the Thai government does. (Not that the Thai transliteration method really works all that well since some of the
    consonants are not aspirated and some are and there are no diacriticals
    added to tell you that phed isn't the same thing as phed.)
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.obituaries on Sun Aug 9 16:19:57 2026
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    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:

    I would have thought that with spelling so
    unclear someone might *say something*,the
    similiarity to which of the name variants
    is why I'm bothering to write this article.

    It's not spelled with Roman letters. It's spelled with characters whose >sounds don't transliterate directly. I can't even wrap my mouth around
    all the weird Thai consonants let alone the Laotian ones.

    And unfortunately they don't have a committee to create a standard method
    for transliteration the way the Thai government does. (Not that the Thai >transliteration method really works all that well since some of the >consonants are not aspirated and some are and there are no diacriticals >added to tell you that phed isn't the same thing as phed.)

    Do you do work on character sets or has this come up for you some other
    way? Just curious.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to alt.obituaries on Sun Aug 9 12:46:04 2026
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    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

    And unfortunately they don't have a committee to create a standard method >>for transliteration the way the Thai government does. (Not that the Thai >>transliteration method really works all that well since some of the >>consonants are not aspirated and some are and there are no diacriticals >>added to tell you that phed isn't the same thing as phed.)

    Do you do work on character sets or has this come up for you some other
    way? Just curious.

    I grew up partly in Southeast Asia. It's okay, because there are at least three ways to spell my name in Thai too, so it goes both ways.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.obituaries on Sun Aug 9 16:53:51 2026
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    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

    And unfortunately they don't have a committee to create a standard method >>>for transliteration the way the Thai government does. (Not that the Thai >>>transliteration method really works all that well since some of the >>>consonants are not aspirated and some are and there are no diacriticals >>>added to tell you that phed isn't the same thing as phed.)

    Do you do work on character sets or has this come up for you some other >>way? Just curious.

    I grew up partly in Southeast Asia. It's okay, because there are at least >three ways to spell my name in Thai too, so it goes both ways.

    Very interesting.
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  • From Louis Epstein@le@lekno.ws to alt.obituaries on Mon Aug 10 01:14:06 2026
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    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

    And unfortunately they don't have a committee to create a standard method >>>for transliteration the way the Thai government does. (Not that the Thai >>>transliteration method really works all that well since some of the >>>consonants are not aspirated and some are and there are no diacriticals >>>added to tell you that phed isn't the same thing as phed.)

    Are you phed up with this?


    Do you do work on character sets or has this come up for you some other >>way? Just curious.

    I grew up partly in Southeast Asia. It's okay, because there are at least three ways to spell my name in Thai too, so it goes both ways.
    --scott

    Ah yes,the realm of the late King Phumiphol/Phumiphon/Bhumibol Aduldet/Adulyadej (aka Rama IX)...when I mentioned to Somtow
    Sucharitkil that I had seen the King's name spelled three or
    four different ways,he responded "It is pronounced none of them".

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  • From David Samuel Barr@dsbarr@mindspring.com to alt.obituaries on Mon Aug 10 11:07:19 2026
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    On 8/9/2026 12:46 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

    And unfortunately they don't have a committee to create a standard method >>> for transliteration the way the Thai government does. (Not that the Thai >>> transliteration method really works all that well since some of the
    consonants are not aspirated and some are and there are no diacriticals
    added to tell you that phed isn't the same thing as phed.)

    Do you do work on character sets or has this come up for you some other
    way? Just curious.

    I grew up partly in Southeast Asia. It's okay, because there are at least three ways to spell my name in Thai too, so it goes both ways.
    --scott

    All pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove, I presume.

    (What does it say about the descent of the group
    that no one else made this obligatory post earlier?)
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