• Re: [UPDATED] Could PayPal Policy Allow Them to Deduct Up to $2,500 From Your Account for Spreading 'Misinformation'?

    From Embrace Woke Go Broke!@embrace.woke.go.broke@paypal.com to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,soc.retirement,alt.military.retired,alt.business.accountability,tor.general on Wed Oct 12 02:44:48 2022
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    In article <KofzK.354922$ssF.220808@fx14.iad>
    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
    I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.


    UPDATE 5:18 p.m.: PayPal says we misunderstood them, and theyAre
    so sorry we got all riled up for no reason.oAn AUP [acceptable
    use policy] notice recently went out in error that included
    incorrect information. PayPal is not fining people for
    misinformation and this language was never intended to be
    inserted in our policy,o a PayPal spokesperson told The Epoch
    Times in an email. oOur teams are working to correct our policy
    pages. WeAre sorry for the confusion this has caused,o the
    spokesperson added.

    This wasnAt a mistake. PayPal issued their revised AUP policy in
    September that included the stricture against osending, posting,
    or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in
    PayPalAs sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing,
    or objectionable, etc.o If nobody had said anything, they would
    have gone ahead with it.

    Original story:

    The financial services company PayPal announced a controversial
    policy to deduct up to $2,500 from the accounts of users who
    spread omisinformation.o

    Beginning November 3, the company will expand its list of
    oprohibited activities,o including othe sending, posting, or
    publication of any messages, content, or materialso that
    opromote misinformationo or opresent a risk to user safety or
    wellbeing.o Users will also be penalized for othe promotion of
    hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is
    discriminatory.o

    The kicker is, PayPal decides whatAs ohateo speech, whatAs
    omisinformation,o and what is ointolerant,o etc. Somehow, I
    donAt think their notion of omisinformationo would match yours
    or mine.

    ItAs apparently very expensive to oppress points of view the
    company disagrees with.

    Daily Wire:

    Deliberations will be made at the osole discretiono of PayPal
    and may subject the user to odamageso u including the removal of
    $2,500 odebited directly from your PayPal account.o The
    companyAs user agreement contains a provision in which account
    holders acknowledge that the figure is opresently a reasonable
    minimum estimate of PayPalAs actual damageso due to the
    administrative cost of tracking violations and damage to the
    companyAs reputation.

    oAdministrative costso of $2,500 being a oreasonable minimum
    estimateo of damages? HavenAt these guys ever heard of the
    ointerneto? HereAs a PayPal joke for you: How many PayPal
    employees does it take to do an internet search for violent
    language from one user? Answer: Whatever they say it is.

    oUnder existing law, PayPal has the ability as a private company
    to implement this type of viewpoint-discriminatory policy,o
    Aaron Terr, a senior program officer at the Foundation for
    Individual Rights and Expression, explained to The Daily Wire.
    oWhatever motivation PayPal has for establishing these vague new
    categories of prohibited expression, they will almost certainly
    have a severe chilling effect on usersA speech. As is often the
    case with ill-defined and viewpoint-discriminatory speech codes,
    those with unpopular or minority viewpoints will likely bear the
    brunt of these restrictions.o

    Platforms such as Amazon, Twitter, and Facebook have formerly
    censored conservatives and others who subscribe to heterodox
    positions on controversial social issues, including
    transgenderism and homosexuality. GoFundMe seized millions in
    funds raised for trucker protests in Canada earlier this year,
    while Google recently began suppressing search results for
    crisis pregnancy centers.

    oThese kinds of policies are unwise, threaten free speech, and
    invite legal risk,o Jeremy Tedesco, vice president of corporate
    engagement at Alliance Defending Freedom, told The Daily Wire.
    oWhen companies apply policies to restrict the religious speech
    of their customers, they could run afoul of prohibitions on
    religious discrimination that exist in many state and federal
    laws.o

    This is why the left is terrified of someone like Elon Musk
    taking over Twitter. Musk is not a right-winger by any means,
    but neither is he a radical leftist, as most social media
    platforms are run by and answerable to. Musk would actually make
    an effort to be fair u an intolerable situation for those
    intolerant of other viewpoints.

    Make no mistake, conservatives will have their beefs with Musk
    for suspending and deleting accounts on the right. He is not a
    free-speech absolutist by any means. But the left will not
    control him. And thatAs what theyAre up in arms about.

    <https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick- moran/2022/10/08/paypal-policy-will-allow-them-to-deduct-up-to- 2500-from-your-account-for-spreading-misinformation-n1635588>

    --
    The average millenial wokster has over $100,000.00 in credit
    card debt.

    Woksters are too lazy to work and have no money except for what
    they leech from their parents, trust funds, welfare, or do-
    gooder handouts.

    Many woksters sign their lives away for $600 a month and an EBT
    card, claiming they are mentally incompetent and cannot handle
    their own personal affairs.

    Individuals who voluntarily affirm that they are mentally
    incompetent should also forfeit their right to vote.

    Woksters have similar numbers to homosexuals and constitute
    perhaps 3% of the US population.

    What strategic business principle sees profit in this kind of
    market prospect?

    What reasonable consumer would support a business with woke
    philosophies and policies?

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  • From Raze Congress@hiccum@gmail.com to alt.military.retired on Mon Oct 24 05:03:46 2022
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    On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 8:45:02 PM UTC-4, Embrace Woke Go Broke! wrote:
    In article <KofzK.354922$ssF.2...@fx14.iad>
    governo...@gmail.com wrote:

    Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
    I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.


    UPDATE 5:18 p.m.: PayPal says we misunderstood them, and theyrCOre
    so sorry we got all riled up for no reason.rCLAn AUP [acceptable
    use policy] notice recently went out in error that included
    incorrect information. PayPal is not fining people for
    misinformation and this language was never intended to be
    inserted in our policy,rCY a PayPal spokesperson told The Epoch
    Times in an email. rCLOur teams are working to correct our policy
    pages. WerCOre sorry for the confusion this has caused,rCY the
    spokesperson added.

    This wasnrCOt a mistake. PayPal issued their revised AUP policy in
    September that included the stricture against rCLsending, posting,
    or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in
    PayPalrCOs sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing,
    or objectionable, etc.rCY If nobody had said anything, they would
    have gone ahead with it.

    Original story:

    The financial services company PayPal announced a controversial
    policy to deduct up to $2,500 from the accounts of users who
    spread rCLmisinformation.rCY

    Beginning November 3, the company will expand its list of
    rCLprohibited activities,rCY including rCLthe sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materialsrCY that
    rCLpromote misinformationrCY or rCLpresent a risk to user safety or wellbeing.rCY Users will also be penalized for rCLthe promotion of
    hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory.rCY

    The kicker is, PayPal decides whatrCOs rCLhaterCY speech, whatrCOs rCLmisinformation,rCY and what is rCLintolerant,rCY etc. Somehow, I
    donrCOt think their notion of rCLmisinformationrCY would match yours
    or mine.

    ItrCOs apparently very expensive to oppress points of view the
    company disagrees with.

    Daily Wire:

    Deliberations will be made at the rCLsole discretionrCY of PayPal
    and may subject the user to rCLdamagesrCY rCo including the removal of $2,500 rCLdebited directly from your PayPal account.rCY The
    companyrCOs user agreement contains a provision in which account
    holders acknowledge that the figure is rCLpresently a reasonable
    minimum estimate of PayPalrCOs actual damagesrCY due to the
    administrative cost of tracking violations and damage to the
    companyrCOs reputation.

    rCLAdministrative costsrCY of $2,500 being a rCLreasonable minimum estimaterCY of damages? HavenrCOt these guys ever heard of the rCLinternetrCY? HererCOs a PayPal joke for you: How many PayPal
    employees does it take to do an internet search for violent
    language from one user? Answer: Whatever they say it is.

    rCLUnder existing law, PayPal has the ability as a private company
    to implement this type of viewpoint-discriminatory policy,rCY
    Aaron Terr, a senior program officer at the Foundation for
    Individual Rights and Expression, explained to The Daily Wire.
    rCLWhatever motivation PayPal has for establishing these vague new categories of prohibited expression, they will almost certainly
    have a severe chilling effect on usersrCO speech. As is often the
    case with ill-defined and viewpoint-discriminatory speech codes,
    those with unpopular or minority viewpoints will likely bear the
    brunt of these restrictions.rCY

    Platforms such as Amazon, Twitter, and Facebook have formerly
    censored conservatives and others who subscribe to heterodox
    positions on controversial social issues, including
    transgenderism and homosexuality. GoFundMe seized millions in
    funds raised for trucker protests in Canada earlier this year,
    while Google recently began suppressing search results for
    crisis pregnancy centers.

    rCLThese kinds of policies are unwise, threaten free speech, and
    invite legal risk,rCY Jeremy Tedesco, vice president of corporate
    engagement at Alliance Defending Freedom, told The Daily Wire.
    rCLWhen companies apply policies to restrict the religious speech
    of their customers, they could run afoul of prohibitions on
    religious discrimination that exist in many state and federal
    laws.rCY

    This is why the left is terrified of someone like Elon Musk
    taking over Twitter. Musk is not a right-winger by any means,
    but neither is he a radical leftist, as most social media
    platforms are run by and answerable to. Musk would actually make
    an effort to be fair rCo an intolerable situation for those
    intolerant of other viewpoints.

    Make no mistake, conservatives will have their beefs with Musk
    for suspending and deleting accounts on the right. He is not a
    free-speech absolutist by any means. But the left will not
    control him. And thatrCOs what theyrCOre up in arms about.

    <https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick- moran/2022/10/08/paypal-policy-will-allow-them-to-deduct-up-to- 2500-from-your-account-for-spreading-misinformation-n1635588>

    --
    The average millenial wokster has over $100,000.00 in credit
    card debt.

    Woksters are too lazy to work and have no money except for what
    they leech from their parents, trust funds, welfare, or do-
    gooder handouts.

    Many woksters sign their lives away for $600 a month and an EBT
    card, claiming they are mentally incompetent and cannot handle
    their own personal affairs.

    Individuals who voluntarily affirm that they are mentally
    incompetent should also forfeit their right to vote.

    Woksters have similar numbers to homosexuals and constitute
    perhaps 3% of the US population.

    What strategic business principle sees profit in this kind of
    market prospect?

    What reasonable consumer would support a business with woke
    philosophies and policies?
    There should be no penalty for killing police COMBANT ENEMIES Stole $20,000 from our retirement took our gun
    Kidnap rape torture murder US Military trained terrorists
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