• Even Multnomah County liberals are finally worried about taxes

    From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to or.politics,seattle.politics,ca.politics,alt.law-enforcement,fl.politics on Sun May 17 06:45:19 2026
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    from https://www.larslarson.com/even-multnomah-county-liberals-are-finally-worried-about-taxes/

    Even Multnomah County liberals are finally worried about taxes
    May 13, 2026 10:12AM PDT
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    Even Multnomah County liberals are finally worried about taxes
    A color photograph of a man on a mobility scooter driving it past a tent
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    If you want to run for Governor in Oregon, the rule has long been: lose Multnomah County and you lose the race.

    Now a new poll shows the infamously liberal voters of Multnomah County
    call taxes a top concern. Hell has truly frozen over.

    In just over one year, the number of voters worried about taxes has
    nearly quadrupled.

    And what has incumbent Governor rCLcryptocurrencyrCY Tina Kotek done with taxes? Begged the legislature to pass billions of dollars more to feed
    an insatiable government.

    A week from today, the 19th of May, voters decide the fate of that crazy
    tax hike, and I bet it goes down in flames, 70 to 30 percent.

    If Kotek had made any difference in housing costs, homelessness, and
    crime, Rose City voters might tolerate the higher taxes.

    This might just explain why other polls show Portland voters disapprove
    of Kotek by a two-to-one marginrCa so get ready for OregonrCOs first Republican governor in four decades after Ed Diehl wins in November.


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  • From Ked Dieter@essspstein@maga.gop to or.politics,seattle.politics,ca.politics,alt.law-enforcement,fl.politics on Sun May 17 18:30:12 2026
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    Taxes are for losers who want to see their hard earned money put into
    massive military contracts, subsidies to big oil and deceptive, lying red state politicians who want to name everything after President Trump.

    Why can't people just suck from the federal government tit like in red
    state USA where taxes are low and pickup trucks fall into massive potholes because no right thinking taxpayer wants to pay for repairs?



    MAGA AMERIKA IS A DRAG ON US ALL.

    America's Southern Rightists are lazy and unproductive. Here's proof:

    Blue states contribute to the economy while red states are welfare states.

    Rightists die younger than leftists as well.

    The GOPAs Welfare States Problem: How Red America Drains Blue America

    by Richard Gosk | Sep 17, 2025 | Economy


    CaliforniaAs economy is larger than the United KingdomAs. New York sits at
    the center of global finance. Massachusetts, Washington, Oregon, and other
    blue states collectively represent over 60% of AmericaAs GDP. In short,
    the engine that powers the United States economy is overwhelmingly powered
    by blue states.

    And yet, the states most dependent on federal welfare, subsidies, and tax redistribution are overwhelmingly Republican. These states drain resources
    from the federal government while exerting disproportionate political influence over how it operates.

    Top Three Takeaways from the Article:

    Republican-led states are net takers u relying heavily on federal dollars
    to run their states that come mostly from blue state taxpayers.

    Political representation is skewed u giving resource-draining red states disproportionate power over national policy.

    Blue states could push back u through interstate coordination, selective compliance, or even secession threats, forcing a reckoning over who truly sustains America.
    Red States as Welfare States

    Look at the numbers: states like Mississippi, West Virginia, Alabama, and Kentucky consistently receive far more in federal spending than they contribute in taxes. Mississippi receives about $2.13 in federal money for every $1 it sends to Washington. Meanwhile, states like California and New
    York send billions more to the federal government than they get back.

    This means that the so-called ofiscally conservativeo states are, in
    reality, welfare states propped up by the wealth generated in blue states. Without blue state subsidies, many red state governments would collapse
    under the weight of their poverty rates, infrastructure needs, and
    healthcare costs.
    Political Power Without Economic Weight

    Despite their dependency, red states hold outsized political power. The
    Senate grants WyomingAs 580,000 residents the same representation as CaliforniaAs 39 million. The Electoral College system compounds this imbalance, handing disproportionate influence to rural states that
    contribute relatively little to national economic output.

    In practice, this means red states that drain federal resources wield veto power over national policy. The states most reliant on federal welfare
    dollars are the ones most aggressively blocking climate legislation, healthcare reform, and education funding that the rest of the country desperately needs.


    What Blue States Could Do

    The imbalance raises a provocative question: what if blue states stopped playing along?

    Blue states already experiment with interstate compacts, such as climate agreements formed when Trump pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Accord. But
    the options go much further:

    Selective compliance with federal laws, much like Northern states
    resisted fugitive slave laws in the 1850s.

    Irish Democracyustyle passive resistance, where millions quietly stop cooperating with federal overreach.

    Economic independence, with state-level initiatives in healthcare, immigration policy, and even currency.

    If pushed far enough, some argue that blue states could even explore the possibility of secession, not as political theater but as a credible negotiating tactic. After all, Quebec nearly left Canada twice, and each
    time it forced major concessions.


    The Harsh Truth

    At the heart of the issue lies an uncomfortable reality: the red state
    vision of America u one of social conservatism, weak social safety nets,
    and corporate dominance u is subsidized by the very blue states they
    attack as osocialist.o

    The U.S. has two incompatible futures. One is a multi-ethnic democracy
    with robust public institutions. The other is a regressive, exclusionary
    system kept afloat only by federal redistribution. The former is paying
    for the latter u and sooner or later, blue states may decide the cost is
    too high.

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  • From zendejo@zd@no.here to or.general,seattle.general,alt.rush-limbaugh,ca.politics,alt.law-enforcement on Sun May 17 14:48:34 2026
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    On 5/17/26 12:30 PM, Ked Dieter wrote:
    Taxes are for losers
    I like tariffs too.
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