• "revenue" comes from the Latin "revenire"

    From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Sun Dec 22 19:03:11 2024
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    this etym. doesn't make sense in that...

    Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
    prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.
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  • From Ed Cryer@ed@somewhere.in.the.uk to sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Sun Dec 22 19:59:01 2024
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    HenHanna wrote:
    this etym.-a doesn't make sense in that...

    -a Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

    The "re" doesn't apply.
    Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
    If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.

    Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern economics.

    Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
    expenditure. They depend on other factors.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@ed@somewhere.in.the.uk to sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Sun Dec 22 20:33:10 2024
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    Ed Cryer wrote:
    HenHanna wrote:
    this etym.-a doesn't make sense in that...

    -a-a Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
    prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

    The "re" doesn't apply.
    Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
    If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.

    Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern
    economics.

    Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
    expenditure. They depend on other factors.

    Ed


    Has a recruit been previously cruited?
    Is a recreation-ground built on another?
    Is religion a reoccurrence of "ligion"?

    Words and meaning have disparate pathways. The study of meaning is best
    left to philosophers; for they have sufficient nous to handle it. In the meantime make an effort to cease your puerile postings; they make you
    sound like an idiot. Or maybe you can talk in other groups; but stay out
    of our Latin one.

    Ed


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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Sun Dec 22 20:33:51 2024
    From Newsgroup: alt.language.latin

    On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 19:59:01 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    HenHanna wrote:
    this etym.-a doesn't make sense in that...

    -a Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
    prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

    The "re" doesn't apply.
    Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
    If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.

    Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern
    economics.

    Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
    expenditure. They depend on other factors.

    Ed


    ___________

    i'm not making much of a claim... just an observation that...

    in Jp and Chinese counterparts, there's no Element of coming BACK

    (just Income)

    Cantonese, Mandarin: uo|oaN (zh) (sh+iur||)

    Japanese: oAAoaN (ja) (pUupeapUapU2peapUa, sh+2ny+2), oAAtce (ja) (pUupeapUapUepUi, sh+2eki)
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  • From Ed Cryer@ed@somewhere.in.the.uk to sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Sun Dec 22 21:48:57 2024
    From Newsgroup: alt.language.latin

    HenHanna wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 19:59:01 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    HenHanna wrote:
    this etym.-a doesn't make sense in that...

    -a-a Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
    prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income >>> or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

    The "re" doesn't apply.
    Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
    If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.

    Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is
    causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern
    economics.

    Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
    expenditure. They depend on other factors.

    Ed


    ___________

    i'm not making much of a claim...-a just an observation that...

    in Jp and Chinese counterparts, there's no Element of coming BACK

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a (just Income)

    Cantonese, Mandarin: uo|oaN (zh) (sh+iur||)

    Japanese: oAAoaN (ja) (pUupeapUapU2peapUa, sh+2ny+2), oAAtce (ja) (pUupeapUapUepUi, sh+2eki)

    Well you should have given us some warning.
    Now you sound like an idiot defending an idiotic posting.

    Ed

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  • From Peter Moylan@peter@pmoylan.org to alt.usage.english,sci.lang,alt.language.latin on Mon Dec 23 22:19:13 2024
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    On 23/12/24 20:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

    I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
    clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
    like an idiot, he is an idiot.

    Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response
    didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.
    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW
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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@me@yahoo.com to alt.usage.english,sci.lang,alt.language.latin on Mon Dec 23 12:39:29 2024
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    On 2024-12-23 11:19:13 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

    On 23/12/24 20:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

    I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
    clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
    like an idiot, he is an idiot.

    Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.

    Ah, thanks, I didn't notice that. In "I think you're newish here,"
    "here" meant alt.usage.english
    --
    Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
    in England until 1987.

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@me@yahoo.com to alt.language.latin, alt.usage.english on Mon Dec 23 15:12:26 2024
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    On 2024-12-23 11:39:29 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:

    On 2024-12-23 11:19:13 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

    On 23/12/24 20:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

    I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
    clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
    like an idiot, he is an idiot.

    Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response
    didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.

    Ah, thanks, I didn't notice that. In "I think you're newish here,"
    "here" meant alt.usage.english

    Good grief. I thought I'd have a quick look to see what other idiocies
    the hen has been polluting alt.language.latin with, but the the results surpassed my worst dreams. 32 out of the last 34 threads were started
    by the hen (and more before that)!
    --
    Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
    in England until 1987.

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  • From Ed Cryer@ed@somewhere.in.the.uk to alt.language.latin,alt.usage.english on Mon Dec 23 15:45:35 2024
    From Newsgroup: alt.language.latin

    Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
    On 2024-12-23 11:39:29 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:

    On 2024-12-23 11:19:13 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

    On 23/12/24 20:56, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

    I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
    clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
    like an idiot, he is an idiot.

    Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response
    didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.

    Ah, thanks, I didn't notice that. In "I think you're newish here,"
    "here" meant alt.usage.english

    Good grief. I thought I'd have a quick look to see what other idiocies
    the hen has been polluting alt.language.latin with, but the the results surpassed my worst dreams. 32 out of the last 34 threads were started by
    the hen (and more before that)!


    The hen just started cross-posting to my Latin group some time ago. I
    put up with it as long as I could (BS though it was), but recently it's
    got to be outlandishly unreal.
    He/she posted the opening lines of Homer's Odyssey in Greek; but there
    were differences to the canonical version that I've known for decades.
    Then a long rant about words beginning with "re" that was just puerile garbage.

    What throws me somewhat is that people in other NGs were following her
    lead, as if they approved of her stupidity.

    Ed
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  • From guido wugi@wugi@brol.invalid to sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Wed Dec 25 00:02:23 2024
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    Op 22/12/2024 om 20:03 schreef HenHanna:
    this etym.-a doesn't make sense in that...

    -a Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
    Revenues.


    _______________

    The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
    means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
    come").


    In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
    or profits returning to a person or entity.

    By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
    primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
    business.



    Summary:

    Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

    Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

    English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

    This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.

    The image is that of money *coming [in] back*, after it has *gone out*
    (as expenditure/investment). Not necessarily with any direct/causal
    relation between both "flows", apart from a chronological one.
    --
    guido wugi
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