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On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 9:44:29 +0000, Ross Clark wrote:

Hello. Goodbye.

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Passing over the intrductory paragraph,
Crystal says a few things about the word "hello".
Surprisingly late in appearance -- 19th century.
The first part links back to things like "ha!" "ho!" and "hi!" as
vocatives and greetings right from OE.
There may also be a connection with hal/hail greetings meaning "good
health!.
In a triumph of English spelling, the word has been spelled with all
five of the vowels available: hallo, hello, hillo, hollo, hullo.

(is this last part from you or from Crystal?)


Hillo was quite common in the 1800's.

I'm less sure about Hollo.


1609, rCLEverie Woman In Her HumorrCY, in A Collection Of Old English Plays, Vol. IV.rCA[1]:
And then to Apollo hollo, trees, hollo.


1922, Jacob Grimm, Wilhelm Grimm, Grimm's Fairy StoriesrCA[2]:
Presently up came the clerk; and when he saw his master, the parson,
running after the three girls, he was greatly surprised, and said,
"Hollo! hollo! your reverence! whither so fast


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(UK, dated) hello (expressing puzzlement or discovery)
1897, Richard Marsh, The Beetle:
rCyHollo!rCO he cried. rCyThe blindrCOs down!rCO I had noticed, when we were outside, that the blind was down at the front room window.


in the S.H. stories, 90% pr 95% of the time,
This (expressing puzzlement or discovery) is
what's meant by
Halloa, or Hullo.


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the German word "hell" (meaning "light" or "bright") and the English
word "pale" are unrelated in terms of etymology.

Etymology:

adj "hell": The German word comes from the Old High German
"hella," which is linked to the Proto-Germanic *halj+i, meaning "bright"
or "light."

"Pale": The English word derives from Old French "pale," which
comes from Latin "pallidus," meaning "pale" or "faded." This Latin root
is also connected to the idea of lacking color or brightness.

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Related Words: This root is related to words in other Germanic
languages, such as:

Dutch "helder" (clear, bright)

English "hale" (to be healthy or whole, but not directly related to
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