a smart Lawyer woman says [things done]
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sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Wed Nov 6 08:59:22 2024
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i wonder... if lots of expressions that we use
are actually like Calques (from Old French, or Latin)
like this [things done]
ok... Sound and Fury , ... are examples.
[Sound and Fury] actually means [Furious Sound] !!!
[The kingdom and the power and the glory] actually means
[glorious, powerful kingdom]
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in the S.H. stories, there are maybe 2 dozen very
subtle examples where Latin expressions are given in English....
i rememer a scene from a movie in which a smart Lawyer woman
says [things done] and i thougt that was a
kind of English phrase that Bacon would have used...
(a calque, a Latin phrase in disguise)
She said in a quiet, philosophical way... that
was a hint (wink-wink) for me.
_________________________________i learned about [fact] maybe 10 years
ago
Latin: The term comes from the Latin word "factum," which means "a thing
done" or "deed." It is the neuter form of "factus," the past participle
of "facere," meaning "to do" or "to make."
Old French: The word passed into Middle English through Old French as
"fait," which also means "a deed" or "an event."
_________________________________i learned about [res gestae] maybe 30
years ago
Res Gestae Exception: The "res gestae" doctrine allows certain
statements made during or immediately after an event to be admitted as evidence, even if they are hearsay. This is because these statements are considered to be spontaneous and made while the declarant was still
under the stress of the event, thus reflecting a sense of immediacy and reliability.
"res gestae" is still used by American lawyers today, particularly in
the context of evidence law.
In legal settings, the term refers to statements or actions that are
considered part of the same event or transaction and are admissible in
court as evidence.
Key Points:
Admissibility: Statements that fall under "res gestae" can be admitted
as evidence because they are seen as spontaneous or contemporaneous with
the event in question, which adds to their reliability.
Examples: This can include things like excited utterances made during an
event, or actions that help explain the context of a situation.
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"Res gestae" is a Latin phrase that translates to "things done" or
"deeds accomplished." It is often used in various contexts, including:
Historical Context: Referring to the deeds or actions of a person,
especially in historical texts. One of the most famous uses is in the
title of "Res Gestae Divi Augusti," which translates to "The Deeds of
the Divine Augustus," a record of the achievements of Emperor Augustus.
Legal Context: In legal terms, "res gestae" refers to events or
statements that are part of the same transaction or occurrence and can
be considered as evidence in a court case. It allows certain statements
made during the event to be admissible as evidence, under the premise
that they are part of the context in which the actions occurred.
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