• Re: Nominative "me" -- J. D. Vance

    From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to sci.lang,alt.usage.english,alt.language.latin on Fri Nov 1 21:45:29 2024
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    On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 19:24:51 +0000, Mike Spencer wrote:


    Single data point: Quote from J.D. Vance:

    I think that, frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if me and Trump won
    just the normal gay guy vote...

    I recall in elementary school in the early 50s, kids saying stuff
    like, "Me an' him was over to the store..." and being corrected to
    say, "He and I..." That pedagogical item seems to have propagated
    into usages like "It was a surprise to he and I..." where the pedagogy
    was internalized as an incantation rather than an as a grammatical
    concept.

    But Vance is a Yale law grad, might be supposed to be smarter (or at
    least better educated) than that.

    Huh.


    i recently learned that Barry Obama grew up in a rich family
    ---- his friends, his White Girlfriend in College... were all White


    but (come Big Election), he and Kamala try to sound Black


    Hillary Clinton is suddenly a big Yankees and Mets fan

    Bill Clinton sounds Sothern and folksy

    Reagan suddenly emphasizes his Irish roots


    J.D. Vance can't do any of the above... so he
    tries to sound Down-to-Earth and Folksy by .........
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