• High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    From mummycullen@mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) to alt.home.repair on Thu Sep 24 11:54:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Forget Zillow.

    Forget the bank.

    Forget bidding wars.

    All you need is:

    * One shovel
    * A patch of woods
    * Several trees
    * A roll of plastic
    * A small wood stove
    * And absolutely no fear of confined spaces Efya

    The guy in this video basically looks at the current housing market and says:

    "Fine. I'll just live underground." EfAir4cN+A

    He starts by marking out a rectangle in the forest and digging what appears to be a simple hole in the ground.

    A few moments later " thanks to the magic of time-lapse " we've gone from "somebody is burying treasure" to what can only be described as:

    Forest Studio Apartment, Garden Level Edition. Efye

    Next come the logs.

    Lots and lots of logs.

    They form the roof, an entrance gets built, waterproof sheeting goes over the top, and then the whole thing gets covered back up with earth, moss and vegetation.

    At this point, your realtor would probably describe it as:

    "A charming earth-integrated residence featuring excellent natural insulation, maximum privacy and beautiful woodland surroundings."

    Translation:

    It's a hole in the woods. Efi#Efnu

    But wait... he's not finished.

    Inside, he adds gravel, wall coverings, a wooden floor and wood-paneled walls.

    Then suddenly there's a stove.

    Then a bed.

    Then a desk.

    Then shelves.

    By the end of the video, the place actually looks surprisingly cozy.

    And look at the amenities:

    * Wood-burning heat "
    * Private bedroom EfcAN+A
    * Hardwood... well, pretty much everything Ef-|
    * Forest views Efi#
    * Unlimited parking EfUu
    * Very quiet neighbors EfE+N+A
    * No HOA
    * No elevator fees
    * No upstairs neighbor practicing drums at midnight
    * Absolutely no chance the Amazon driver is finding you "

    And best of all...

    No 30-year mortgage! Efye

    Of course, there are a few minor details the video seems to skip over.

    You know...

    * Drainage
    * Ventilation
    * Structural support
    * Emergency exits
    * Building permits
    * Carbon monoxide
    * Waterproofing
    * The small matter of several tons of wet earth sitting over your head Efy4

    Just little things.

    So before anybody heads into the backyard with a shovel this weekend, this is probably best enjoyed as an impressive survival-style build rather than an actual home-repair tutorial.

    A real underground structure would need serious thought given to soil pressure, drainage, waterproofing, ventilation, fire safety, structural engineering and local building codes.

    But as a response to today's housing costs?

    You have to admire the simplicity.

    Bank:

    "Your mortgage payment will be $3,200 a month."

    Landlord:

    "Your rent is going up another $400."

    This guy:

    "Hand me the shovel." EfyeEfyeEfye

    EfAi'Efi#

    So what do you think?

    Could you spend a weekend living in this thing?

    Or would you make it about ten minutes before deciding that high rent suddenly doesn't seem quite so bad? Efya


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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to alt.home.repair on Thu Sep 24 15:08:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Housing market has changed over the years. According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today. So, a rough 10X over the
    years. Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued
    at 20X that?

    I bought a newer house in 1981. According to the CPI, it would sell for $229,000 today but is valued at $325,000. I sold it for a bit less 8
    years ago.

    Also, in 1981 I had one of the better interest rates, only 15%.

    https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to alt.home.repair on Thu Sep 24 21:42:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 2026-09-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Housing market has changed over the years. According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today. So, a rough 10X over the
    years. Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued
    at 20X that?

    Real estate is pure marketplace. People will pay what they think
    a house is worth. An extra $5000 every time the house is sold
    will add up over the decades.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to alt.home.repair on Thu Sep 24 19:20:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 9/24/2026 5:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Housing market has changed over the years. According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today. So, a rough 10X over the
    years. Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued
    at 20X that?

    Real estate is pure marketplace. People will pay what they think
    a house is worth. An extra $5000 every time the house is sold
    will add up over the decades.


    Times have changed, not always for the better.
    I bought my first house when I was 20. I had no debt and was going to
    night school for college. Today, at 20, they are full time in college
    and have student loans to last for many years. Mortgage back in 1966
    was $84 and I was making a bit over 100 a week. Rent in my area was
    similar. Classic middle income lifestyle at the time.

    Today, in this area, rent is $1500 and the job I had back then would not
    pay that much weekly. I hear of too many kids graduating with degrees
    in Interpretive Dance or 4th Century Greek sculpture and work at
    Starbucks to pay off huge student loans.

    The median age of first-time home buyers in America:
    - 1991: 27
    - 2010: 30
    - 2020: 33
    - 2022: 36
    - 2024: 38
    - 2025: 40
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  • From Clare Snyder@clare@snyder.on.ca to alt.home.repair on Fri Sep 25 09:51:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 19:20:53 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 9/24/2026 5:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. ?

    Housing market has changed over the years. According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today. So, a rough 10X over the
    years. Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued
    at 20X that?

    Real estate is pure marketplace. People will pay what they think
    a house is worth. An extra $5000 every time the house is sold
    will add up over the decades.


    Times have changed, not always for the better.
    I bought my first house when I was 20. I had no debt and was going to
    night school for college. Today, at 20, they are full time in college
    and have student loans to last for many years. Mortgage back in 1966
    was $84 and I was making a bit over 100 a week. Rent in my area was
    similar. Classic middle income lifestyle at the time.

    Today, in this area, rent is $1500 and the job I had back then would not
    pay that much weekly. I hear of too many kids graduating with degrees
    in Interpretive Dance or 4th Century Greek sculpture and work at
    Starbucks to pay off huge student loans.

    The median age of first-time home buyers in America:
    - 1991: 27
    - 2010: 30
    - 2020: 33
    - 2022: 36
    - 2024: 38
    - 2025: 40

    I came home from Africa in 1975 $5000 in debt.I think I made almost
    $8000 a year at the time. After 2 years sharing an aprtment with a
    co-worker I got my first apartment - a one bedroom walkup - $300 a
    month.So half my income went to rent. I bought a $10,000 truck - the
    only brand new vehicle I have ever owned. (1976) This was 1977.In 1978
    the rent was going up $15 a month to $315. I talked to a real estate
    agent customer and asked what I could get that would carry for $315 to
    $325 a month, In Waterloo. He said he though he had something for me -
    I went to look at it that night. Brick 1 1/2 story, small attached
    garage - nice deep lot, backing on railway tracks, decent condition
    but needed some work - asking IIRC 53000 and I got it for 47 - last
    day of seller's conditional offer on their "dream house". Sold my
    truck for the $3500 I needed extra for the down payment and a '75
    Pacer.
    Move forward to 1981 - Got married - sold the house for $50000 and
    moved ito my new wife's house. When we were expecting our first we
    decided the house was not set up for having kids, so started looking
    for a new place. Interest rates were 21%. Anything we say in our
    $50000 range was either a dump or in a bad part of town and our agent
    encoured us to stretch ourselves a bit and look at houses in the
    65-70000 range. Nice 2 story, large corner lot, near good school, 8
    years old -Acking 73, reduced to 67, motivated seller, (again, getting
    to the end of conditional purchace of new home) with assumable
    mortgage at 6 3/4%. Offered 63900 and got it. Wife cashed out her
    pension, borrowed $15000 from a friend and took over the existing
    mortgage. Didn't spend a penny more than we had to for the next 5
    years and paid it off. Worth about 700,000 on today's market.
    My old apartment is now $3200 a month and if I was a young guy
    l doing my old job I'd be making about $6600 a month.
    Damn, that's 1/2 my wages for rent - Just like back in '77 when I was
    25.
    My fancy $10,000 truck (4wd SUV with a plough)would now be a 100000
    truck. Gas for that truck was about $1.15 a gallon. Today it's $7.96
    down the street ($1.77 a liter) - To be equivalent to everything else
    it chould be closer to $11.00.
    Now let's look at a few other things. My branf new 26 inch TV I got
    on sale for $399. A digital multimeter was $69, a calculator was $30.
    AN answering machine was over $300. In 1969 my starter tool set was
    over $300
    That translateds to close to $4000 for a 26" TV, over $600 for a
    multimeter, $300 for a simple calculator that could add, sumprant,
    .mbultiply and devide and ate batteries for breakfast, and $3000 for a
    starter set of tools.
    I can buy a 50 inch smart TV today for $300 on sale - or $500 any day
    of the week. A decent digital (not analog) VOM is about $27 - or a
    really decent one for$150. An equivalent calculator is less than $25
    and I can buy an equivalent set of tools on sale at Canadian Tire
    (mine were from sears) for under $300.

    Yes, Kids today have it hard - But so did we.
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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid to alt.home.repair on Fri Sep 25 11:07:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 9/24/2026 3:08 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Housing market has changed over the years. According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today. So, a rough 10X over the
    years. Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued
    at 20X that?

    I bought a newer house in 1981. According to the CPI, it would sell for $229,000 today but is valued at $325,000. I sold it for a bit less 8
    years ago.

    Also, in 1981 I had one of the better interest rates, only 15%.

    https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

    The answer to your question "Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600
    in 1966 now valued at 20X that?" is a combination of greater than
    inflationary cost for building supplies as well as "supply and demand". Additionally, if your neighborhood is considered more desirable now than
    it was then, the "location, location, location" factor is not indexed to
    the rate of inflation.
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  • From Snag@snag_one@msn.com to alt.home.repair on Fri Sep 25 23:39:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 9/25/2026 8:51 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 19:20:53 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 9/24/2026 5:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. ?

    Housing market has changed over the years. According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today. So, a rough 10X over the
    years. Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued >>>> at 20X that?

    Real estate is pure marketplace. People will pay what they think
    a house is worth. An extra $5000 every time the house is sold
    will add up over the decades.


    Times have changed, not always for the better.
    I bought my first house when I was 20. I had no debt and was going to
    night school for college. Today, at 20, they are full time in college
    and have student loans to last for many years. Mortgage back in 1966
    was $84 and I was making a bit over 100 a week. Rent in my area was
    similar. Classic middle income lifestyle at the time.

    Today, in this area, rent is $1500 and the job I had back then would not
    pay that much weekly. I hear of too many kids graduating with degrees
    in Interpretive Dance or 4th Century Greek sculpture and work at
    Starbucks to pay off huge student loans.

    The median age of first-time home buyers in America:
    - 1991: 27
    - 2010: 30
    - 2020: 33
    - 2022: 36
    - 2024: 38
    - 2025: 40

    I came home from Africa in 1975 $5000 in debt.I think I made almost
    $8000 a year at the time. After 2 years sharing an aprtment with a
    co-worker I got my first apartment - a one bedroom walkup - $300 a
    month.So half my income went to rent. I bought a $10,000 truck - the
    only brand new vehicle I have ever owned. (1976) This was 1977.In 1978
    the rent was going up $15 a month to $315. I talked to a real estate
    agent customer and asked what I could get that would carry for $315 to
    $325 a month, In Waterloo. He said he though he had something for me -
    I went to look at it that night. Brick 1 1/2 story, small attached
    garage - nice deep lot, backing on railway tracks, decent condition
    but needed some work - asking IIRC 53000 and I got it for 47 - last
    day of seller's conditional offer on their "dream house". Sold my
    truck for the $3500 I needed extra for the down payment and a '75
    Pacer.
    Move forward to 1981 - Got married - sold the house for $50000 and
    moved ito my new wife's house. When we were expecting our first we
    decided the house was not set up for having kids, so started looking
    for a new place. Interest rates were 21%. Anything we say in our
    $50000 range was either a dump or in a bad part of town and our agent encoured us to stretch ourselves a bit and look at houses in the
    65-70000 range. Nice 2 story, large corner lot, near good school, 8
    years old -Acking 73, reduced to 67, motivated seller, (again, getting
    to the end of conditional purchace of new home) with assumable
    mortgage at 6 3/4%. Offered 63900 and got it. Wife cashed out her
    pension, borrowed $15000 from a friend and took over the existing
    mortgage. Didn't spend a penny more than we had to for the next 5
    years and paid it off. Worth about 700,000 on today's market.
    My old apartment is now $3200 a month and if I was a young guy
    l doing my old job I'd be making about $6600 a month.
    Damn, that's 1/2 my wages for rent - Just like back in '77 when I was
    25.
    My fancy $10,000 truck (4wd SUV with a plough)would now be a 100000
    truck. Gas for that truck was about $1.15 a gallon. Today it's $7.96
    down the street ($1.77 a liter) - To be equivalent to everything else
    it chould be closer to $11.00.
    Now let's look at a few other things. My branf new 26 inch TV I got
    on sale for $399. A digital multimeter was $69, a calculator was $30.
    AN answering machine was over $300. In 1969 my starter tool set was
    over $300
    That translateds to close to $4000 for a 26" TV, over $600 for a multimeter, $300 for a simple calculator that could add, sumprant,
    .mbultiply and devide and ate batteries for breakfast, and $3000 for a starter set of tools.
    I can buy a 50 inch smart TV today for $300 on sale - or $500 any day
    of the week. A decent digital (not analog) VOM is about $27 - or a
    really decent one for$150. An equivalent calculator is less than $25
    and I can buy an equivalent set of tools on sale at Canadian Tire
    (mine were from sears) for under $300.

    Yes, Kids today have it hard - But so did we.


    Very well said Clare . I have long believed that the only true metric
    for value is "how many hours work to buy a pair of shoes ?" Or a loaf of
    bread , or a blanket for your bed .
    --
    Snag
    I appreciated foreign cultures more
    when they stayed foreign ...
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  • From Planet of the apes@enough.of.the@apes.usa to alt.home.repair on Sat Sep 26 14:47:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    MummyChunk wrote:

    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Forget Zillow.

    Forget the bank.

    Forget bidding wars.

    All you need is:

    * One shovel
    * A patch of woods
    * Several trees
    * A roll of plastic
    * A small wood stove
    * And absolutely no fear of confined spaces Efya

    The guy in this video basically looks at the current housing market and
    says:

    "Fine. I'll just live underground." EfAir4cN+A

    He starts by marking out a rectangle in the forest and digging what
    appears to be a simple hole in the ground.

    A few moments later " thanks to the magic of time-lapse " we've gone from >"somebody is burying treasure" to what can only be described as:

    Forest Studio Apartment, Garden Level Edition. Efye

    Next come the logs.

    Lots and lots of logs.

    They form the roof, an entrance gets built, waterproof sheeting goes over
    the top, and then the whole thing gets covered back up with earth, moss
    and vegetation.

    At this point, your realtor would probably describe it as:

    "A charming earth-integrated residence featuring excellent natural >insulation, maximum privacy and beautiful woodland surroundings."

    Translation:

    It's a hole in the woods. Efi#Efnu

    But wait... he's not finished.

    Inside, he adds gravel, wall coverings, a wooden floor and wood-paneled >walls.

    Then suddenly there's a stove.

    Then a bed.

    Then a desk.

    Then shelves.

    By the end of the video, the place actually looks surprisingly cozy.

    And look at the amenities:

    * Wood-burning heat "
    * Private bedroom EfcAN+A
    * Hardwood... well, pretty much everything Ef-|
    * Forest views Efi#
    * Unlimited parking EfUu
    * Very quiet neighbors EfE+N+A
    * No HOA
    * No elevator fees
    * No upstairs neighbor practicing drums at midnight
    * Absolutely no chance the Amazon driver is finding you "

    And best of all...

    No 30-year mortgage! Efye

    Of course, there are a few minor details the video seems to skip over.

    You know...

    * Drainage
    * Ventilation
    * Structural support
    * Emergency exits
    * Building permits
    * Carbon monoxide
    * Waterproofing
    * The small matter of several tons of wet earth sitting over your head
    Efy4

    Just little things.

    So before anybody heads into the backyard with a shovel this weekend,
    this is probably best enjoyed as an impressive survival-style build
    rather than an actual home-repair tutorial.

    A real underground structure would need serious thought given to soil >pressure, drainage, waterproofing, ventilation, fire safety, structural >engineering and local building codes.

    But as a response to today's housing costs?

    You have to admire the simplicity.

    Bank:

    "Your mortgage payment will be $3,200 a month."

    Landlord:

    "Your rent is going up another $400."

    This guy:

    "Hand me the shovel." EfyeEfyeEfye

    EfAi'Efi#

    So what do you think?

    Could you spend a weekend living in this thing?

    Or would you make it about ten minutes before deciding that high rent >suddenly doesn't seem quite so bad? Efya


    View the attachments for this post at: >http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=711422520#711422520





    I blame Obama. Trump has nothing to do with it.

    High rent, high interest rates and inflation never would have happened if
    the leftist ANTIFA's hadn't stolen the 2020 election from a sundowning, mentally demented President Trump. That's why the only elections that are stolen are when he's President.


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  • From Robby@dsae@here.now to alt.home.repair on Sat Sep 26 14:56:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    MummyChunk wrote:

    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Forget Zillow.

    Forget the bank.

    Forget bidding wars.

    All you need is:

    * One shovel
    * A patch of woods
    * Several trees
    * A roll of plastic
    * A small wood stove
    * And absolutely no fear of confined spaces Efya

    The guy in this video basically looks at the current housing market and
    says:

    "Fine. I'll just live underground." EfAir4cN+A

    He starts by marking out a rectangle in the forest and digging what
    appears to be a simple hole in the ground.

    A few moments later " thanks to the magic of time-lapse " we've gone from >"somebody is burying treasure" to what can only be described as:

    Forest Studio Apartment, Garden Level Edition. Efye

    Next come the logs.

    Lots and lots of logs.

    They form the roof, an entrance gets built, waterproof sheeting goes over
    the top, and then the whole thing gets covered back up with earth, moss
    and vegetation.

    At this point, your realtor would probably describe it as:

    "A charming earth-integrated residence featuring excellent natural >insulation, maximum privacy and beautiful woodland surroundings."

    Translation:

    It's a hole in the woods. Efi#Efnu

    But wait... he's not finished.

    Inside, he adds gravel, wall coverings, a wooden floor and wood-paneled >walls.

    Then suddenly there's a stove.

    Then a bed.

    Then a desk.

    Then shelves.

    By the end of the video, the place actually looks surprisingly cozy.

    And look at the amenities:

    * Wood-burning heat "
    * Private bedroom EfcAN+A
    * Hardwood... well, pretty much everything Ef-|
    * Forest views Efi#
    * Unlimited parking EfUu
    * Very quiet neighbors EfE+N+A
    * No HOA
    * No elevator fees
    * No upstairs neighbor practicing drums at midnight
    * Absolutely no chance the Amazon driver is finding you "

    And best of all...

    No 30-year mortgage! Efye

    Of course, there are a few minor details the video seems to skip over.

    You know...

    * Drainage
    * Ventilation
    * Structural support
    * Emergency exits
    * Building permits
    * Carbon monoxide
    * Waterproofing
    * The small matter of several tons of wet earth sitting over your head
    Efy4

    Just little things.

    So before anybody heads into the backyard with a shovel this weekend,
    this is probably best enjoyed as an impressive survival-style build
    rather than an actual home-repair tutorial.

    A real underground structure would need serious thought given to soil >pressure, drainage, waterproofing, ventilation, fire safety, structural >engineering and local building codes.

    But as a response to today's housing costs?

    You have to admire the simplicity.

    Bank:

    "Your mortgage payment will be $3,200 a month."

    Landlord:

    "Your rent is going up another $400."

    This guy:

    "Hand me the shovel." EfyeEfyeEfye

    EfAi'Efi#

    So what do you think?

    Could you spend a weekend living in this thing?

    Or would you make it about ten minutes before deciding that high rent >suddenly doesn't seem quite so bad? Efya


    View the attachments for this post at: >http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=711422520#711422520





    I just buy a gun and steal the house. This is America, not a third world shithole.


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  • From frank@"frank "@frank.net to alt.home.repair on Sat Sep 26 13:37:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 9/24/2026 3:08 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Housing market has changed over the years.-a According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today.-a So, a rough 10X over the years.-a-a Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued
    at 20X that?

    I bought a newer house in 1981.-a According to the CPI, it would sell for $229,000 today but is valued at $325,000.-a I sold it for a bit less 8
    years ago.

    Also, in 1981 I had one of the better interest rates, only 15%.

    https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

    Thirty year mortgage on my first house was 6% but 7 years later on
    second was 9% for 20 years. I knew they sky rocketed it afterwards. I
    paid it off in 18 years.
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to alt.home.repair on Sat Sep 26 15:54:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 9/26/2026 12:51 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:


    And in SO MANY CASES it is not the high cost of living, but the cost
    of living high!!!! Today's kids don't start life with boards and
    bricks for book shelves, orange crates for dressers, old car seats for couches, and mismatched dishes and silverware to save up for a down
    payment. Gotta have the latest cell phones and gaming consoles, Fancy coffees, and take-out or eat out several times a week. No beans and
    rice and half price day-old bread and making banana bread because you
    could get a basket of over-ripe bananas for 2 bucks ($0.25 back then).
    I remember taking my kids out to a potato field after the harvesters
    had gone through, picking up baskets full of the now trendy "tiny
    taters", and getting windfall apples to make apple sauce.
    Just saw an article about that. Living high to show everyone how
    successful you are. Buy a $7.50 oat milk latte, swipe the cars and in 3 seconds paid. Then it sits on the card at the end of the month at 28% interest. Of course, you took a photo of it and posted on Facebook to
    show your friends.
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  • From frank@"frank "@frank.net to alt.home.repair on Sat Sep 26 13:48:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On 9/24/2026 7:20 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 5:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That

    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. Efye

    Housing market has changed over the years.-a According to the Consumer
    Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today.-a So, a rough 10X over the
    years.-a-a Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued >>> at 20X that?

    Real estate is pure marketplace.-a People will pay what they think
    a house is worth.-a An extra $5000 every time the house is sold
    will add up over the decades.


    Times have changed, not always for the better.
    I bought my first house when I was 20.-a I had no debt and was going to night school for college.-a Today, at 20, they are full time in college
    and have student loans to last for many years.-a Mortgage back in 1966
    was $84 and I was making a bit over 100 a week. Rent in my area was
    similar. Classic middle income lifestyle at the time.

    Today, in this area, rent is $1500 and the job I had back then would not
    pay that much weekly.-a I hear of too many kids graduating with degrees
    in Interpretive Dance or 4th Century Greek sculpture and work at
    Starbucks to pay off huge student loans.

    The median age of first-time home buyers in America:
    --a 1991: 27
    --a 2010: 30
    --a 2020: 33
    --a 2022: 36
    --a 2024: 38
    --a 2025: 40

    Our 26 year old granddaughter and her boy friend just bought their first house. She is a college science graduate with an extra degree in
    nursing and he works for family car business.

    When she moved, our eldest son, her dad who she lived with after his
    divorce, sold his house in Delaware and moved to a new one in Myrtle
    beach, SC. His first house was paid off and he paid in full for the
    current one.
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  • From Clare Snyder@clare@snyder.on.ca to alt.home.repair on Sat Sep 26 12:51:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair



    And in SO MANY CASES it is not the high cost of living, but the cost
    of living high!!!! Today's kids don't start life with boards and
    bricks for book shelves, orange crates for dressers, old car seats for
    couches, and mismatched dishes and silverware to save up for a down
    payment. Gotta have the latest cell phones and gaming consoles, Fancy
    coffees, and take-out or eat out several times a week. No beans and
    rice and half price day-old bread and making banana bread because you
    could get a basket of over-ripe bananas for 2 bucks ($0.25 back then).
    I remember taking my kids out to a potato field after the harvesters
    had gone through, picking up baskets full of the now trendy "tiny
    taters", and getting windfall apples to make apple sauce.

    Lots of ways we "economized" to be able to get the down payment and
    pay off the mortgage.
    Other than my one "big mistake" buying the new truck, I don't think
    I've owned 2 cars less than 5 years old, or sold one less than 15.


    On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 23:39:27 -0500, Snag <snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

    On 9/25/2026 8:51 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 19:20:53 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

    On 9/24/2026 5:42 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 11:54 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
    High Interest Rates - High Rents - Now There Is a Solution for That >>>>>>
    Housing prices too high?

    Mortgage rates making you sweat?

    Landlord just sent another rent increase?

    Apparently we've all been overthinking this housing problem. ?

    Housing market has changed over the years. According to the Consumer >>>>> Price Index, $1 in 1966 is about $2 today. So, a rough 10X over the >>>>> years. Why then, is the house I bought for $10,600 in 1966 now valued >>>>> at 20X that?

    Real estate is pure marketplace. People will pay what they think
    a house is worth. An extra $5000 every time the house is sold
    will add up over the decades.


    Times have changed, not always for the better.
    I bought my first house when I was 20. I had no debt and was going to
    night school for college. Today, at 20, they are full time in college
    and have student loans to last for many years. Mortgage back in 1966
    was $84 and I was making a bit over 100 a week. Rent in my area was
    similar. Classic middle income lifestyle at the time.

    Today, in this area, rent is $1500 and the job I had back then would not >>> pay that much weekly. I hear of too many kids graduating with degrees
    in Interpretive Dance or 4th Century Greek sculpture and work at
    Starbucks to pay off huge student loans.

    The median age of first-time home buyers in America:
    - 1991: 27
    - 2010: 30
    - 2020: 33
    - 2022: 36
    - 2024: 38
    - 2025: 40

    I came home from Africa in 1975 $5000 in debt.I think I made almost
    $8000 a year at the time. After 2 years sharing an aprtment with a
    co-worker I got my first apartment - a one bedroom walkup - $300 a
    month.So half my income went to rent. I bought a $10,000 truck - the
    only brand new vehicle I have ever owned. (1976) This was 1977.In 1978
    the rent was going up $15 a month to $315. I talked to a real estate
    agent customer and asked what I could get that would carry for $315 to
    $325 a month, In Waterloo. He said he though he had something for me -
    I went to look at it that night. Brick 1 1/2 story, small attached
    garage - nice deep lot, backing on railway tracks, decent condition
    but needed some work - asking IIRC 53000 and I got it for 47 - last
    day of seller's conditional offer on their "dream house". Sold my
    truck for the $3500 I needed extra for the down payment and a '75
    Pacer.
    Move forward to 1981 - Got married - sold the house for $50000 and
    moved ito my new wife's house. When we were expecting our first we
    decided the house was not set up for having kids, so started looking
    for a new place. Interest rates were 21%. Anything we say in our
    $50000 range was either a dump or in a bad part of town and our agent
    encoured us to stretch ourselves a bit and look at houses in the
    65-70000 range. Nice 2 story, large corner lot, near good school, 8
    years old -Acking 73, reduced to 67, motivated seller, (again, getting
    to the end of conditional purchace of new home) with assumable
    mortgage at 6 3/4%. Offered 63900 and got it. Wife cashed out her
    pension, borrowed $15000 from a friend and took over the existing
    mortgage. Didn't spend a penny more than we had to for the next 5
    years and paid it off. Worth about 700,000 on today's market.
    My old apartment is now $3200 a month and if I was a young guy
    l doing my old job I'd be making about $6600 a month.
    Damn, that's 1/2 my wages for rent - Just like back in '77 when I was
    25.
    My fancy $10,000 truck (4wd SUV with a plough)would now be a 100000
    truck. Gas for that truck was about $1.15 a gallon. Today it's $7.96
    down the street ($1.77 a liter) - To be equivalent to everything else
    it chould be closer to $11.00.
    Now let's look at a few other things. My branf new 26 inch TV I got
    on sale for $399. A digital multimeter was $69, a calculator was $30.
    AN answering machine was over $300. In 1969 my starter tool set was
    over $300
    That translateds to close to $4000 for a 26" TV, over $600 for a
    multimeter, $300 for a simple calculator that could add, sumprant,
    .mbultiply and devide and ate batteries for breakfast, and $3000 for a
    starter set of tools.
    I can buy a 50 inch smart TV today for $300 on sale - or $500 any day
    of the week. A decent digital (not analog) VOM is about $27 - or a
    really decent one for$150. An equivalent calculator is less than $25
    and I can buy an equivalent set of tools on sale at Canadian Tire
    (mine were from sears) for under $300.

    Yes, Kids today have it hard - But so did we.


    Very well said Clare . I have long believed that the only true metric
    for value is "how many hours work to buy a pair of shoes ?" Or a loaf of >bread , or a blanket for your bed .
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