• Re: RECIPE: Hamantashen (Jewish Holiday - Purim - Pastries)

    From chef boy howdy@woop@de.do to rec.food.cooking,sos.culture.islam,alt.home.repair on Thu Sep 10 09:26:22 2026
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    On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:05:33 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:
    There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
    Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
    to destroy the Jews.

    There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
    whatever etymology they please.
    You lie as easily as some breathe Hammy. https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/contrad/external/haman.html
    H-Um-Un According To The QurrCOan: A Brief Character Analysis
    Haman is mentioned by name in six verses of the QurrCOan.[1] From these six verses we can deduce Haman is one of the characters depicted in the confrontation between Moses and Pharaoh, indicating it is this part of the story where the context of Haman can be properly established. Other characters that form part of this narrative are H-Ur+2n (Prophet, supporter of Moses) and Qar+2n. Three other characters, al-Samiri, the unidentified servant and the servant of God, do not play a role in the confrontation though they are part of the larger Moses narrative. One of the most vividly described and oft-repeated head-to-head confrontations in the QurrCOan, this story can be found dispersed throughout many s+2rahs. Based primarily on the principal continuous text portions we can indeed discover the QurrCOanic Haman, and reach a more useful assessment of his character than simply listing the verses containing his name.
    CONFRONTATION BETWEEN MOSES AND PHARAOH
    The confrontation between Moses and the Pharaoh is one of the most vividly described stories in the QurrCOan, mentioned with details in fifteen s+2rahs.[2] This part of the story begins when God sends Moses to Pharaoh with miraculous signs. After showing Pharaoh his miraculous signs, PharaohrCOs inner circle of leaders become fearful, with Pharaoh accusing Moses of being a learned sorcerer trying to expel him from Egypt by using magic. Consequently, the Pharaoh sets a challenge between Moses and his best magicians to see whose signs are really superior; this event is given added significance as it is to take place on the renowned rCyDay of CelebrationrCO. When the contest takes place and Moses prevails, PharaohrCOs magicians fall prostrate and openly declare their belief in the God of Moses. Pharaoh refused to accept the result of the contest and instead threatens severe punishment to anyone who believes in Moses and his God. Frustrated by MosesrCO success and the wavering of his own people, Pharaoh instructs Haman to construct for him a lofty tower so that he can survey the God of Moses, though he is convinced Moses is lying. Thus we can observe it is at this stage of the confrontation that Haman assumes a clearly defined role. Likewise, it is at this point in the story we reach the climax of PharaohrCOs haughtiness and arrogance, who after been given a physical demonstration of miraculous signs and personal reminders from Moses, thinks he is able to survey God as a God. Eventually Pharaoh tried to kill Moses and his followers but instead was drowned as a punishment from God and his body preserved as a sign for future generations.
    The main characters in the story are undoubtedly Moses and Pharaoh,
    protagonist and antagonist, respectively. Though Haman is portrayed as
    a minor character whose authority and power are clearly secondary to PharaohrCOs, his importance as part of PharaohrCOs court should not be underestimated. Indirectly, HamanrCOs seniority as part of PharaohrCOs
    court is mentioned in the story when Moses was sent to Pharaoh and his
    chiefs with signs but they were rejected [QurrCOan 7:103]. Although not mentioned by name in this verse, it is clear that Haman must be
    considered part of this group and he is one of PharaohrCOs leading
    supporters. Only snippets of information are given regarding Haman, so
    one cannot indulge in an all-encompassing discussion regarding his
    personality, character traits, etc., though what we do learn about him
    is not unimportant. Haman is given commands and carries them out
    dutifully. He is put in charge of a very important construction
    project, indicating he possessed seniority and skill necessary to see
    the task through to completion, although we are not told anything more
    about the construction of the tower or if it was even built. He holds a
    senior enough position to be mentioned along with Pharaoh repeatedly.
    He was also an accuser, calling Moses a sorcerer and a liar. Haman is
    portrayed as a highly unethical character; motivated by his hatred
    towards the believers, and, along with Pharaoh and Qar+2n, he initiated
    the slaying of the sons of the believers sparing only their women.
    HamanrCOs character is unchanging; he does not acquire any new attributes
    and is described as a wrongdoer, arrogant and one who commits sins.
    Haman died perhaps around the same time as the Pharaoh as a punishment
    from God for his unbelief and tyranny.
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  • From chef boy howdy@woop@de.do to rec.food.cooking,alt.home.repair on Thu Sep 10 14:59:53 2026
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    On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 20:51:18 GMT
    ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:

    On 2026-09-09, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> posted:

    ChunkyMummy wrote on 9/9/2026 1:47 PM:

    MOHN HAMANTASHEN
    A triangular filled pastry

    Hamantashen are triangular pastries traditionally eaten
    during the Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the
    failure of HamanrCOs attempt to destroy the Jews; the
    triangular shape is commonly associated here with HamanrCOs
    three-cornered hat.

    Thanks, but some here are not jews. What do you have for the
    rag heads Mummy?


    There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
    Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he
    offered to destroy the Jews.

    There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
    whatever etymology they please.


    And you can't prove that he didn't exist. We're even; want to go on?

    ~
    Hammy _always_ lies_ and when caught she never says a word in reply nor rebuttal, just slinks off to lie again another day.
    This kind of intellectual deceit and misdirection is risible and
    all too common among the left who must manufacture outrage to cover for
    their own lack of critical reasoning and dearth of verifiable data
    points.
    What's worse is that Hammy is on a rinse, lather, repeat cycle here and
    so it may be useful to compile a weblog of her most obvious hoof in
    mouth episodes to replay for her again and again and again...
    Suffice to say AI and Hammy are incompatible.
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  • From chef boy howdy@woop@de.do to rec.food.cooking,alt.home.repair on Fri Sep 11 08:57:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 21:42:36 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    Nobody can prove a negative. It's logically impossible.


    Bugger off then , Hammy dear.

    You seem to operate in a weirld where mere aphorisms and turns
    of phrase constitute guardrails on your larger perceptions, which are as blunted as an old butter knife anyway...


    Oh and:

    "AI Overview

    Yes, you can prove a negative statement or the
    non-existence of something, provided the claim is tested within a
    defined, bounded space or a logical system.

    Examples of Negatives That Can Be Proved

    Closed physical spaces: You can
    prove there is no milk in a specific mug by looking inside it, or that
    a sealed room contains no oxygen by running a chemical test.

    Mathematical
    limits: You can prove that no integer squared equals 2 (\(\sqrt{2}\) is irrational) or that there are no three positive integers a, b, and c
    that satisfy \(a^n + b^n = c^n\) for any integer n > 2 (Fermat's Last
    Theorem).

    Logical
    definitions: You can prove that no triangle has four sides because it
    violates the fundamental definition of a triangle.

    Exhaustive
    searches: You can prove that a specific text (like the novel Moby Dick) contains the word "xyz" zero times by running a search through every
    single word.

    Biochemical limits: You can prove that Earth's atmosphere
    is not made of 90% pure chlorine gas because humans are alive and
    breathing it, which would be impossible under those chemical
    conditions.'

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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid to rec.food.cooking,sos.culture.islam,alt.home.repair on Fri Sep 11 12:55:56 2026
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    On 9/10/2026 11:26 AM, chef boy howdy wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:05:33 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
    Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
    Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he offered
    to destroy the Jews.

    There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
    whatever etymology they please.

    You lie as easily as some breathe Hammy.

    https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/contrad/external/haman.html

    H-Um-Un According To The QurrCOan: A Brief Character Analysis

    Haman is mentioned by name in six verses of the QurrCOan.[1] From these six verses we can deduce Haman is one of the characters depicted in the confrontation between Moses and Pharaoh, indicating it is this part of the story where the context of Haman can be properly established. Other characters that form part of this narrative are H-Ur+2n (Prophet, supporter of Moses) and Qar+2n. Three other characters, al-Samiri, the unidentified servant and the servant of God, do not play a role in the confrontation though they are part of the larger Moses narrative. One of the most vividly described and oft-repeated head-to-head confrontations in the QurrCOan, this story can be found dispersed throughout many s+2rahs. Based primarily on the principal continuous text portions we can indeed discover the QurrCOanic Haman, and reach a more useful assessment of his character than simply listing the verses containing his name.

    CONFRONTATION BETWEEN MOSES AND PHARAOH

    The confrontation between Moses and the Pharaoh is one of the most vividly described stories in the QurrCOan, mentioned with details in fifteen s+2rahs.[2] This part of the story begins when God sends Moses to Pharaoh with miraculous signs. After showing Pharaoh his miraculous signs, PharaohrCOs inner circle of leaders become fearful, with Pharaoh accusing Moses of being a learned sorcerer trying to expel him from Egypt by using magic. Consequently, the Pharaoh sets a challenge between Moses and his best magicians to see whose signs are really superior; this event is given added significance as it is to take place on the renowned rCyDay of CelebrationrCO. When the contest takes place and Moses prevails, PharaohrCOs magicians fall prostrate and openly declare their belief in the God of Moses. Pharaoh refused to accept the result of the contest and instead threatens severe punishment to anyone who believes in Moses and his God. Frustrated by MosesrCO success and the wavering of his own people, Pharaoh instructs Haman to construct for him a lofty tower so that he can survey the God of Moses, though he is convinced Moses is lying. Thus we can observe it is at this stage of the confrontation that Haman assumes a clearly defined role. Likewise, it is at this point in the story we reach the climax of PharaohrCOs haughtiness and arrogance, who after been given a physical demonstration of miraculous signs and personal reminders from Moses, thinks he is able to survey God as a God. Eventually Pharaoh tried to kill Moses and his followers but instead was drowned as a punishment from God and his body preserved as a sign for future generations.

    [remainder snipped for a semblance of brevity]
    What's the difference whether it's true or not? Many people enjoy their religion for the traditions of that religion as much or more than the
    belief system that religion preaches. If some people enjoy baking
    and/or eating a certain pastry it's irrelevant whether or not the
    tradition of baking and/or eating a specific pastry recipie is factually
    based. They enjoy the tradition and possibly the food(s) associated
    with it. We have no right to criticize anyone's traditions provided they
    don't intrude on our freedom to enjoy different traditions.
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  • From chef boy howdy@woop@de.do to rec.food.cooking,sos.culture.islam,alt.home.repair on Fri Sep 11 14:29:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.home.repair

    On Fri, 11 Sep 2026 12:55:56 -0400
    Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> wrote:
    On 9/10/2026 11:26 AM, chef boy howdy wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 09:05:33 -0000 (UTC)
    Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    There is no classic reference that Haman wore a three-corned hat.
    Tasch, means Haman's pocket pouch or pocket; thus, Hamentaschen or
    Hamentashen. That references back to the vast treasure he
    offered to destroy the Jews.

    There's no evidence Haman existed, either. People can make up
    whatever etymology they please.

    You lie as easily as some breathe Hammy.

    https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/contrad/external/haman.html

    H-Um-Un According To The QurrCOan: A Brief Character Analysis

    Haman is mentioned by name in six verses of the QurrCOan.[1] From
    these six verses we can deduce Haman is one of the characters
    depicted in the confrontation between Moses and Pharaoh, indicating
    it is this part of the story where the context of Haman can be
    properly established. Other characters that form part of this
    narrative are H-Ur+2n (Prophet, supporter of Moses) and Qar+2n. Three
    other characters, al-Samiri, the unidentified servant and the
    servant of God, do not play a role in the confrontation though they
    are part of the larger Moses narrative. One of the most vividly
    described and oft-repeated head-to-head confrontations in the
    QurrCOan, this story can be found dispersed throughout many s+2rahs.
    Based primarily on the principal continuous text portions we can
    indeed discover the QurrCOanic Haman, and reach a more useful
    assessment of his character than simply listing the verses
    containing his name.

    CONFRONTATION BETWEEN MOSES AND PHARAOH

    The confrontation between Moses and the Pharaoh is one of the most
    vividly described stories in the QurrCOan, mentioned with details in fifteen s+2rahs.[2] This part of the story begins when God sends
    Moses to Pharaoh with miraculous signs. After showing Pharaoh his miraculous signs, PharaohrCOs inner circle of leaders become fearful,
    with Pharaoh accusing Moses of being a learned sorcerer trying to
    expel him from Egypt by using magic. Consequently, the Pharaoh sets
    a challenge between Moses and his best magicians to see whose signs
    are really superior; this event is given added significance as it
    is to take place on the renowned rCyDay of CelebrationrCO. When the
    contest takes place and Moses prevails, PharaohrCOs magicians fall prostrate and openly declare their belief in the God of Moses.
    Pharaoh refused to accept the result of the contest and instead
    threatens severe punishment to anyone who believes in Moses and his
    God. Frustrated by MosesrCO success and the wavering of his own
    people, Pharaoh instructs Haman to construct for him a lofty tower
    so that he can survey the God of Moses, though he is convinced
    Moses is lying. Thus we can observe it is at this stage of the confrontation that Haman assumes a clearly defined role. Likewise,
    it is at this point in the story we reach the climax of PharaohrCOs haughtiness and arrogance, who after been given a physical
    demonstration of miraculous signs and personal reminders from
    Moses, thinks he is able to survey God as a God. Eventually Pharaoh
    tried to kill Moses and his followers but instead was drowned as a punishment from God and his body preserved as a sign for future generations.

    [remainder snipped for a semblance of brevity]

    What's the difference whether it's true or not?
    The knee-jerk swift dismissal as if Hammy had a fucking clue, that's
    what!
    Many people enjoy
    their religion for the traditions of that religion as much or more
    than the belief system that religion preaches.
    That's nice and so?
    If some people enjoy
    baking and/or eating a certain pastry it's irrelevant whether or not
    the tradition of baking and/or eating a specific pastry recipie is
    factually based.
    Croissant time for you then?
    They enjoy the tradition and possibly the food(s)
    associated with it. We have no right to criticize anyone's traditions provided they don't intrude on our freedom to enjoy different
    traditions.

    And yet Hammy did.
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