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On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 00:05:54 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 7/26/2026 11:09 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Nicolas Edme Restif de La Bretonne <restif@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:19:33 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
<user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
We grilled a nice rib eye steak on the gas grill.
It was a grilled Hebrew National beef (of course) hot dog here.
A bit extra tortured during slaughter, you mean?
I don't know I wasn't there. But if animals are not slaughtered
for meat and other by-products they would overpopulate and die of starvation. Animals know nothing of birth control, all they do is
eat and reproduce.
~
Very valid consideration. I can just imagine the streets overrun
with cows and goats wandering around. You go to the market and can't
park because the lot is loaded with sheep, pigs and a flock of
chickens.
Think Teddy Roosevelt and the Grand Canyon Deer population fiasco:
https://library.nau.edu/speccoll/exhibits/grand-canyon-100/index.php/predator-control/
In the highly romantic times of the parkrCOs inception, predators of the
area had a bad reputation. Anything that could harm life in the canyon
was a threat, even if it was part of the life itself. Theodore
Roosevelt was highly influential on these matters. He loved the mule
deer of the park (mainly for their game value) and made efforts to have predators like mountain lions, coyotes, wolves, and bobcats killed off
to protect the deer. This went horribly wrong. The deer became wildly overpopulated and did not have a food source large enough to sustain
them. Public outcry was massive when guests saw deer dying of
starvation. To solve this, the forest service allowed hunting again in
1924 to try to control population. This angered people further because
it went against the exact values of a national park. They also
attempted moving some through the canyon to the South Rim. Community
members like western author Zane Grey and director DW Griffith, Navajo
Indians, game wardens, and Forest Service personnel gave it a good
attempt as well. Apparently taming and herding wild deer was not as
easy as it seemed. The deer drive of 1924 would have been an incredible
tale, and an even better movie (as Zane and Griffith were planning), if
it hadnrCOt turned out to be a complete failure. Other measures like
truck and air transport to the south rim were attempted in the late
20s. Trap and ship methods were employed again in the 40s, taking them
this time to Desert View. By the 50s, Arizona Game and Fish was put in
charge of transferring surplusses to southern Arizona.
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