On 5/3/26 07:59, Retirednoguilt wrote:
I'm glad that you find your quote from the Orthodox Church in America to
be a breath of fresh air, but please realize that many others may not
appreciate much less agree with those sentiments.
Did someone force you to read it?
Living in a free society means you are going to have
to face opinions that you find offensive. Being a
religious bigot does not give you the right to shut
up other who are not.
The first amendment is freedom of religion. Not
freedom FROM religion.
You need to ditch the bigotry and learn to be tolerant
of others.
On 5/3/2026 10:59 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 5/2/2026 7:10 PM, T wrote:
This is the Orthodox Church in America's (OCA)
statement on America's 250 anniversary. It
is a breath of fresh air.
https://www.oca.org/holy-synod/statements/holy-synod/statement-on-the-occasion-of-the-250th-anniversary-of-the-united-states-of-america
An excerpt:
We give thanks to Almighty God for the United States of
Americaua nation that has, by the grace of God, afforded
its people the freedom to worship, to follow the way of
Jesus Christ, and to bear witness to the Gospel without
fear or compulsion. We do not take these gifts for granted.
They are blessings of divine providence, entrusted to us
as a sacred responsibility. The freedom to gather in our
churches, to catechize our children in the Faith, to
proclaim the Resurrection of Christ openly and without
hindranceuthese are gifts for which every generation must
give thanks to God and remain worthy stewards.
It may be a breath of fresh ideas for those who share the same religious beliefs, but can (and often) is uncomfortable at best, and highly
offensive at worst for those whose beliefs are different. That why the authors of our Constitution included as the FIRST phrase in the FIRST amendment, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
I'm glad that you find your quote from the Orthodox Church in America to
be a breath of fresh air, but please realize that many others may not appreciate much less agree with those sentiments.
I certainly agree that you have every legal right to practice a religion
even if that practice includes proselytizing to those you are likely to identify as "non-believers". However, have you ever tried to put
yourself in the role of a devout Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist,
Shinto, etc. person who likely resents your implied disparagement of
their right to hold their own strongly held beliefs?
Would you respond
favorably if those "unbelievers" without invitation or provocation,
imposed on your time and attention to exclaim their beliefs to you? You should try doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid> wrote:
On 5/3/2026 10:59 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 5/2/2026 7:10 PM, T wrote:
This is the Orthodox Church in America's (OCA)
statement on America's 250 anniversary. It
is a breath of fresh air.
https://www.oca.org/holy-synod/statements/holy-synod/statement-on-the-occasion-of-the-250th-anniversary-of-the-united-states-of-america
An excerpt:
We give thanks to Almighty God for the United States of
AmericarCoa nation that has, by the grace of God, afforded
its people the freedom to worship, to follow the way of
Jesus Christ, and to bear witness to the Gospel without
fear or compulsion. We do not take these gifts for granted.
They are blessings of divine providence, entrusted to us
as a sacred responsibility. The freedom to gather in our
churches, to catechize our children in the Faith, to
proclaim the Resurrection of Christ openly and without
hindrancerCothese are gifts for which every generation must
give thanks to God and remain worthy stewards.
It may be a breath of fresh ideas for those who share the same religious >>> beliefs, but can (and often) is uncomfortable at best, and highly
offensive at worst for those whose beliefs are different. That why the
authors of our Constitution included as the FIRST phrase in the FIRST
amendment, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
I'm glad that you find your quote from the Orthodox Church in America to >>> be a breath of fresh air, but please realize that many others may not
appreciate much less agree with those sentiments.
I certainly agree that you have every legal right to practice a religion
even if that practice includes proselytizing to those you are likely to
identify as "non-believers". However, have you ever tried to put
yourself in the role of a devout Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist,
Shinto, etc. person who likely resents your implied disparagement of
their right to hold their own strongly held beliefs?
If the believer can't abide some disparagement, implicit or explicit,
they are the "lukewarm", and they're gonna get spewn out anyway.
The 1st allows free criticism of religions as well as free exercise.
What it doesn't give 'em is freedom from being offended.
Would you respond
favorably if those "unbelievers" without invitation or provocation,
imposed on your time and attention to exclaim their beliefs to you? You
should try doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Christian Nationalists, which broadly overlap with magas, don't think
they should have to suffer another man's beliefs. "Do unto others" is
all wokey-woke and DEI and shit. A major chunk of the base favors
theocracy. Just ask Kegbreath.
Christian Nationalists, which broadly overlap with magas, don't think
they should have to suffer another man's beliefs. "Do unto others" is
all wokey-woke and DEI and shit. A major chunk of the base favors
theocracy. Just ask Kegbreath.
On 5/3/26 21:38, Roger Rhino wrote:
Christian Nationalists, which broadly overlap with magas, don't think
they should have to suffer another man's beliefs. "Do unto others" is
all wokey-woke and DEI and shit. A major chunk of the base favors theocracy. Just ask Kegbreath.
I've never known a Christian group to burn cop cars and cities to the ground.
The usual sock wrote:
On 5/3/26 21:38, Roger Rhino wrote:I've never known an atheist group to blow up abortion clinics.
Christian Nationalists, which broadly overlap with magas, don't thinkI've never known a Christian group to burn cop cars and cities to the ground.
they should have to suffer another man's beliefs. "Do unto others" is
all wokey-woke and DEI and shit. A major chunk of the base favors
theocracy. Just ask Kegbreath.
I've never known a Jewish group to blow up federal buildings.
I've never known a Catholic group to burn down black churches.
I've never known american patriots to advocate Christian theocracy.
So what's your point? Are you trying to say white supremacist christian nationalist MAGAs are good people?
The usual sock wrote:
On 5/3/26 21:38, Roger Rhino wrote:I've never known an atheist group to blow up abortion clinics.
Christian Nationalists, which broadly overlap with magas, don't thinkI've never known a Christian group to burn cop cars and cities to the ground.
they should have to suffer another man's beliefs. "Do unto others" is
all wokey-woke and DEI and shit. A major chunk of the base favors
theocracy. Just ask Kegbreath.
I've never known a Jewish group to blow up federal buildings.
I've never known a Catholic group to burn down black churches.
I've never known american patriots to advocate Christian theocracy.
So what's your point? Are you trying to say white supremacist christian nationalist MAGAs are good people?
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