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Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part. And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.


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On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 13:04:26 -0700
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part. And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Utter statist lunacy.
Have they run 'clean out' of emissions to legislate against?
Californicators suck.
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On 4/14/26 13:26, cloche wrote:

On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 13:04:26 -0700
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part. And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Utter statist lunacy.

Have they run 'clean out' of emissions to legislate against?

Californicators suck.

The PRC is a real mess right now. This is what you get
from a one party state.


I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity
is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself
up by the handle.
--Winston Churchill

Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance
and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal
sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill


I would disagree a bit with the "equal sharing of misery" comment.
The "nomenclature" lives rather well. In opulence beyond western understating.


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On 4/14/2026 4:04 PM, T wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part.-a And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Check the facts. Florida has the same now, it it to prevent toll
evasion. You can have a frame but cannot cover information. Certainly
makes sense to most people.

License Plate Obstruction or Alteration rCo AB 1085 (Stefani)

Makes it an infraction with a fine of $1,000 to manufacture in
California a product or device that obscures, or is intended to obscure
or interfere with the visual or electronic reading of a license plate, addressing the use of illegal license plate covers that enable toll
evasion and other criminal activity

Key Requirements of CVC 5201:
Mounting: Plates must be rigidly mounted (no swinging) to prevent
obscuring any part.
Visibility: The characters must be upright and readable from left to right. Covers and Frames: It is illegal to use any covering that obscures the
plates, including clear, tinted, or "anti-camera" covers, as noted by
the CHP Stockton. Frames cannot cover the state name, month, or date
stickers.
Condition: Plates must be maintained in a clearly legible condition
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On 4/14/2026 5:16 PM, T wrote:

On 4/14/26 13:26, cloche wrote:

On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 13:04:26 -0700
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part.-a And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Utter statist lunacy.

Have they run 'clean out' of emissions to legislate against?

Californicators suck.

The PRC is a real mess right now.-a This is what you get
from a one party state.

Yes, they should let people continue to evade tolls!
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 14:16:41 -0700
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 4/14/26 13:26, cloche wrote:

On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 13:04:26 -0700
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part. And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Utter statist lunacy.

Have they run 'clean out' of emissions to legislate against?

Californicators suck.

The PRC is a real mess right now. This is what you get
from a one party state.

And they still haven't built any refineries to cope with the spor
market mess Gray Davis and their assembly left them in - almost 30 years
on!

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity
is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself
up by the handle.
--Winston Churchill

Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance
and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal
sharing of misery.
--Winston Churchill

I would disagree a bit with the "equal sharing of misery" comment.
The "nomenclature" lives rather well. In opulence beyond western understating.

Well cited!
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 17:21:50 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 4/14/2026 4:04 PM, T wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part.-a And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Check the facts. Florida has the same now, it it to prevent toll
evasion. You can have a frame but cannot cover information.
Certainly makes sense to most people.

Toll roads are un-Constitutional restrictions of the right to move
freely about the country, statist oaf. https://www.facebook.com/groups/nomoreturnpikes/posts/3729128127220788/
Is turnpike toll lawful under constitution?
Summarized by AI from the post below
NO MORE TURNPIKES, Oklahoma! -+
Sherri Smith
-+
November 14, 2025
-+
Where in our Constitution does it say we have to pay a 'kings ransome' to travel our roads? This would fall under the bill of rights, to travel freely. Just because something is made legal DOES NOT MAKE IT LAWFUL. The turnpike authority should be audited immediately to find out where all that money is going to begin with before another turn pike is built.
All reactions:
1K
Dustin Berry
Tax payers paid for the construction of rhe Turnpike, then the state sold it off to the turnpike authorities company right? Now they are charging the very people who paid for the turnpike to use, over and over, to use it again?
Yeah, make it make sense Efn+!
If anything, turnpike should have to pay back the tax payers in like royalties or something each moth to every citizen of Oklahoma.
Turnpike should not be allowed to have another turnpike built until all is paid back.
They should also have to forfeit back all claimed land undeveloped or
used back to original owners, not sell it off to highest buyers!
NO MORE TURNPIKES, Oklahoma! -+
Amber Lacy
-+
3d
-+
The Toby Keith Expressway is a spit in the face.
rCiThey named the turnpike after a man who SUED to stop it. Toby Keith (Covel) fought the OTA to protect our land and his own. Now, the OTA is using his fame to pave over the very dirt he defended.
rCiThe Companies building this betrayal:
* Poe & Associates (Project Managers) - (405) 949-1962
* Garver (Norman Design Office) - (405) 329-2555
* CEC Corp (Environmental Studies) - (405) 246-9411
rCiTell them: No amount of branding can cover up the desecration of Norman. #PikeOffOTA #savetheroses
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License Plate Obstruction or Alteration rCo AB 1085 (Stefani)

Makes it an infraction with a fine of $1,000 to manufacture in
California a product or device that obscures, or is intended to

Fuck off Eddy P, you leftarded fascist.
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cloche <b@ki.ng> wrote:

On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 17:21:50 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 4/14/2026 4:04 PM, T wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing canaobstruct *any* part.a And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Check the facts. Florida has the same now, it it to prevent toll
evasion. You can have a frame but cannot cover information.
Certainly makes sense to most people.

Toll roads are un-Constitutional restrictions of the right to move
freely about the country, statist oaf.

No they aren't.

You are free to take the bus or walk. Sorry, Red, people like you are
too mushminded to be allowed behind the wheel.

You should join your local Sovereign Citizens booboisie. They can tell
you all your other magical Rights that you're missing out on.
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 21:55:19 -0700
Roger Rhino <not@my.home> wrote:

cloche <b@ki.ng> wrote:

On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 17:21:50 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 4/14/2026 4:04 PM, T wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part.-a And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

Check the facts. Florida has the same now, it it to prevent toll evasion. You can have a frame but cannot cover information.
Certainly makes sense to most people.

Toll roads are un-Constitutional restrictions of the right to move
freely about the country, statist oaf.

No they aren't.

You are free

You must learn: https://www.infrainsightblog.com/constitutional-use-of-toll-revenue-the-subject-of-recent-federal-court-decision
"The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York recently clarified the constitutional uses of toll revenue in American Trucking Associations v. New York State Thruway Authority, 13 Civ. 8123 (CM)
(S.D.N.Y. Aug. 10, 2016). In this case, commercial trucking companies
and the American Trucking Associations (ATA) claimed that the New York
State Thruway Authority violated the Constitution by charging inflated
toll rates to cover the operations and maintenance costs of the New
York State Canal System. The Court agreed.
The plaintiffs engage in interstate commerce and pay tolls to use the Thruway, the portion of the Interstate Highway System that runs from New York City to Buffalo. The Thruway Authority charges tolls that exceed the needs of the Thruway in order to cover the costs of operating and maintaining the Canal System. The Canal System serves as a recreational and tourist attraction. In her decision, Chief Judge McMahon held that the Thruway AuthorityrCOs practice of charging higher tolls to cover the costs of the Canal System unduly burdened interstate commerce in violation of the so-called Dormant Commerce Clause of the Constitution.
In arriving at her decision, McMahon invoked the test set forth by the
Supreme Court in Northwest Airlines, Inc. v. County of Kent, 510 U.S.
355 (1994), which finds that a user fee or toll is constitutionally
permissible only if it meets three requirements. First, the toll or
user fee must be based on some fair approximation of the use of the
facilities for which it is paid. Second, the toll or user fee must not
be excessive in relation to the benefits conferred from the use of
those facilities. Third, the toll or user fee must not discriminate
against interstate commerce."
...
"The recurring theme in McMahonrCOs decision relates to the plaintiffsrCO
use or benefit from the off-system diversion of user fees or toll
revenue. In this case, she found that the ThruwayrCOs practice of using
toll revenue from the Thruway to support the Canal System violated the Constitution. However, she distinguished the situation in the instant
case from another federal decision relating to the use of highway toll
revenue for public transit, which found that such use was permissible
because transit alleviated congestion on the facilities that were being
tolled, creating a functional relationship that conveyed a benefit to
those paying the toll. Automobile Club of New York, Inc. v. Port
Authority, 887 F.2d 417, 421 (2d Cir. 1989).
In the wake of the New York Thruway decision, ATA President and CEO Chris Spear said that he hopes this decision will dissuade other states from financing their budget shortfalls on the backs of our industry. Indeed, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that as a result of the decision, ATA plans to review similar situations in other states to ascertain what further actions the organization could take.
Another potential impact could be felt in Oklahoma, where the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority is considering a 17 percent increase in toll rates to finance new construction. The ultimate legality of such an increase could also turn on the location of the projects to be funded with the Turnpike toll revenue and the relationship those projects have with the Turnpike itself.
It seems as though the tolling practices of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is always the subject of dispute. In fact, the Automobile Association of New York is again suing the Port Authority, arguing that the Port AuthorityrCOs recent toll increase is unconstitutional due to its intended use to fund redevelopment of the World Trade Center.
The most significant potential impact of the New York Thruway decision,
though, may have nothing to do with tolls. The Northwest Airlines
decision applies to user fees as well as tolls, as McMahon notes in her decision. If federal courts interpret the Dormant Commerce Clause to
apply to motor fuel and other excise taxes in the same way the New York
Thruway decision applies this rubric to tolls, then the potential
impact could be extreme. The question of whether or not an excise tax
is legally tantamount to a user fee is murky, especially when such
taxes are firewalled into trust funds with specific eligible uses."
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On 2026-04-14 22:04, T wrote:

Warning: if you are living or planning on visiting the
People's Republic of California (PRC) by automobile
any time soon, under the PRC's Vehicle Code -o5201,
a license plate must be clearly visible and legible,
and nothing can-aobstruct *any* part.-a And that includes
license plate frames, backup camera mounts. etc..

It is a $1000.00 fine.

That's normal in any normal country. Since a hundred years ago. :-P
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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On 4/18/2026 6:23 PM, Dr. Emil Jaccard wrote:

On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:25:37 -0700
Roger Rhino <not@my.home> wrote:

Unfortunately for you, there's still no right to a free ride.

You are NOT terribly smart:

AI Overview
The U.S. Constitution, while not explicitly mentioning "travel," is interpreted by the Supreme Court to guarantee a fundamental right to interstate travel. This right, rooted in the 14th AmendmentrCOs
Privileges or Immunities Clause, Article IVrCOs Privileges and Immunities Clause, and the Commerce Clause, protects the ability to enter/leave
states, visit other states, and establish residency.

Yes, you can get on your horse and go across the states. That says
nothing about providing paved highways for use with an automobile. The
states are free to collect the funding any way they want. taxes and
tolls are quite common.

Evidently: > You are NOT terribly smart
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On 4/18/26 19:42, Roger Rhino wrote:

"Dr. Emil Jaccard"<drej@bl.ade> wrote:

Roger Rhino<not@my.home> wrote:

This bit of screed was about the economics of who pays how much toll.
Nothing there about a constitutional right to travel.

The constitution does address such rights, but you'll be the last to
find it. Unfortunately for you, there's still no right to a free ride.
Do keep looking.

You are NOT terribly smart:

AI Overview
The U.S. Constitution, while not explicitly mentioning "travel," is
interpreted by the Supreme Court to guarantee a fundamental right to
interstate travel. This right, rooted in the 14th AmendmentrCOs

(snip AI screed)

The right to travel is rooted in the 9th amendment before that.

All of which is beside the point, which you missed entirely. The
nutcase was arguing that his right to travel granted him toll-free use
of toll roads. That's just one froot-loop short of the Sovereign
Citizen narrative that they have the right to drive on publically owned
roads without the burden of driver's license or vehicle registration.

Yah, Democrats demand free stuff from the taxpayers every day.

FWIW, the driver's license requirement is racist.


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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">This bit of screed was about the economics of who pays how much toll.
Nothing there about a constitutional right to travel.

The constitution does address such rights, but you'll be the last to
find it. Unfortunately for you, there's still no right to a free ride.
Do keep looking.
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You are NOT terribly smart:

AI Overview
The U.S. Constitution, while not explicitly mentioning "travel," is
interpreted by the Supreme Court to guarantee a fundamental right to
interstate travel. This right, rooted in the 14th AmendmentrCOs
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(snip AI screed)

The right to travel is rooted in the 9th amendment before that.

All of which is beside the point, which you missed entirely. The
nutcase was arguing that his right to travel granted him toll-free use
of toll roads. That's just one froot-loop short of the Sovereign
Citizen narrative that they have the right to drive on publically owned
roads without the burden of driver's license or vehicle registration.
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Ed P wrote:

On 4/18/2026 6:23 PM, Dr. Emil Jaccard wrote:

On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:25:37 -0700
Roger Rhino <not@my.home> wrote:

Unfortunately for you, there's still no right to a free ride.

You are NOT terribly smart:

AI Overview
The U.S. Constitution, while not explicitly mentioning "travel," is
interpreted by the Supreme Court to guarantee a fundamental right to
interstate travel. This right, rooted in the 14th Amendmenta Ts
Privileges or Immunities Clause, Article IVa Ts Privileges and
Immunities Clause, and the Commerce Clause, protects the ability to
enter/leave states, visit other states, and establish residency.

Yes, you can get on your horse and go across the states. That says
nothing about providing paved highways for use with an automobile. The >states are free to collect the funding any way they want. taxes and
tolls are quite common.

Evidently: > You are NOT terribly smart

Why should red states pay taxes for roads and infrstructure when they can
steal money from the blue states instead?

Republican-led states are net takers u relying heavily on federal dollars
to run their states that come mostly from blue state taxpayers.

Political representation is skewed u giving resource-draining red states disproportionate power over national policy.

Blue states could push back u through interstate coordination, selective compliance, or even secession threats, forcing a reckoning over who truly sustains America.
Red States as Welfare States

Look at the numbers: states like Mississippi, West Virginia, Alabama, and Kentucky consistently receive far more in federal spending than they contribute in taxes. Mississippi receives about $2.13 in federal money for every $1 it sends to Washington. Meanwhile, states like California and New
York send billions more to the federal government than they get back.

This means that the so-called ofiscally conservativeo states are, in
reality, welfare states propped up by the wealth generated in blue states. Without blue state subsidies, many red state governments would collapse
under the weight of their poverty rates, infrastructure needs, and
healthcare costs.
Political Power Without Economic Weight

Despite their dependency, red states hold outsized political power. The
Senate grants WyomingAs 580,000 residents the same representation as CaliforniaAs 39 million. The Electoral College system compounds this imbalance, handing disproportionate influence to rural states that
contribute relatively little to national economic output.

In practice, this means red states that drain federal resources wield veto power over national policy. The states most reliant on federal welfare
dollars are the ones most aggressively blocking climate legislation, healthcare reform, and education funding that the rest of the country desperately needs.


What Blue States Could Do

The imbalance raises a provocative question: what if blue states stopped playing along?

Blue states already experiment with interstate compacts, such as climate agreements formed when Trump pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Accord. But
the options go much further:

Selective compliance with federal laws, much like Northern states
resisted fugitive slave laws in the 1850s.

Irish Democracyustyle passive resistance, where millions quietly stop cooperating with federal overreach.

Economic independence, with state-level initiatives in healthcare, immigration policy, and even currency.

If pushed far enough, some argue that blue states could even explore the possibility of secession, not as political theater but as a credible negotiating tactic. After all, Quebec nearly left Canada twice, and each
time it forced major concessions.


The Harsh Truth

At the heart of the issue lies an uncomfortable reality: the red state
vision of America u one of social conservatism, weak social safety nets,
and corporate dominance u is subsidized by the very blue states they
attack as osocialist.o

The U.S. has two incompatible futures. One is a multi-ethnic democracy
with robust public institutions. The other is a regressive, exclusionary
system kept afloat only by federal redistribution. The former is paying
for the latter u and sooner or later, blue states may decide the cost is
too high.
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