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On Wed, 7 May 2025 11:52:12 -0400, Ed P wrote:

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I do have a physical key that is in the fob in case of a dead battery.
I'd have to search for the hole to put it in, somewhere behind the
handle. Never looked for it

I have a car like that (about 4 months old). I have tried both physical
keys. What I have not tried is starting the engine with a dead battery in
the fob. There is no keyhole for that. There's a hidden place with no
keyhole. Apparently you put the fob in a certain place and there a RFID
device in there.

As for stopping the engine when the car is moving, my manual says to hold
the button down until the engine stops (it doesn't say how long) or press
it three times in two seconds. It doesn't say anything about requiring the brake while pushing the button.
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On Wed, 07 May 2025 16:48:10 -0400, micky wrote:

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My ex-gf left her car here when we went somewhere and when we got back
her fob wouldn't open the car. She'd run a business for 20+ years and
seemed totally confident so I was surprised when she didn't know what to
do and didn't hear or, then, believe me when I kept telling her there
was a key in the fob. Finally she broke down and let me find it and
when the key opened the car, the car started fine.

When I looked at the physical key in my fob, I had never seen a car key
like that before. It was cut in the middle of the larger sides rather that
at the edges. It still worked.

BTW, this car has a phone app, which allows lock/unlock/remote start/
sounding the horn. It also uses Google Maps to show the car's location.
That could be useful if the car is ever stolen.
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On Wed, 7 May 2025 09:51:14 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

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What cars still have carburetors? I thought all have used fuel
injectors for several decades. Better mileage and less pollution.

The car I bought in 1981 (it was a 1980 model) had a carburetor. I thought that was unusual.
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Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote in news:69daad00$5$27 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

On Wed, 7 May 2025 11:52:12 -0400, Ed P wrote:

[snip]

I do have a physical key that is in the fob in case of a dead battery.
I'd have to search for the hole to put it in, somewhere behind the
handle. Never looked for it

I have a car like that (about 4 months old). I have tried both physical keys. What I have not tried is starting the engine with a dead battery in the fob. There is no keyhole for that. There's a hidden place with no keyhole. Apparently you put the fob in a certain place and there a RFID device in there.

On my Toyota starting the car with a dead fob is done by touching the fob to the Start Button.

As for stopping the engine when the car is moving, my manual says to hold the button down until the engine stops (it doesn't say how long) or press
it three times in two seconds. It doesn't say anything about requiring the brake while pushing the button.

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On 11 Apr 2026 20:32:41 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On Wed, 7 May 2025 09:51:14 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

[snip]

What cars still have carburetors? I thought all have used fuel
injectors for several decades. Better mileage and less pollution.

The car I bought in 1981 (it was a 1980 model) had a carburetor. I

thought

that was unusual.

My 1982 Firebird had a carburetor. It did have a computer controlled,
solenoid operated valve to enrich the mixture at times. That caused me intermittent headaches that turned out to be a tiny piece of neoprene
which would block the operation at random times.

Running the troubleshooting tree was frustrating since many of the sensor outputs were on the edge of the limits. I felt better since my client was having problems getting his Oldsmobile sorted out at the dealership. His
son was the service manager so it was unlikely they were screwing him
around :)

The early '80s were interesting as technology slowly crept in. Even my '86 F150 has a carb with a few mods for the primitive ECU.
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On 4/11/2026 7:56 PM, rbowman wrote:

On 11 Apr 2026 20:32:41 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On Wed, 7 May 2025 09:51:14 -0400, Retirednoguilt wrote:

[snip]

What cars still have carburetors? I thought all have used fuel
injectors for several decades. Better mileage and less pollution.

The car I bought in 1981 (it was a 1980 model) had a carburetor. I

thought

that was unusual.

My 1982 Firebird had a carburetor. It did have a computer controlled, solenoid operated valve to enrich the mixture at times. That caused me intermittent headaches that turned out to be a tiny piece of neoprene
which would block the operation at random times.

Running the troubleshooting tree was frustrating since many of the sensor outputs were on the edge of the limits. I felt better since my client was having problems getting his Oldsmobile sorted out at the dealership. His
son was the service manager so it was unlikely they were screwing him
around :)

The early '80s were interesting as technology slowly crept in. Even my '86 F150 has a carb with a few mods for the primitive ECU.

My '86 GMC pickup has a carb . Not the original now , but the
original Quadrajet did have a solenoid device that limited the
accelerator pump shot when the motor was at operating temp . The only
other electronic controls it had (doesn't now , aftermarket dist) was a
spark retard on the distributor tied to a knock sensor .
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2026 21:41:00 -0000 (UTC), David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

On my Toyota starting the car with a dead fob is done by touching the fob to >the Start Button.

My Kia is the same way.

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