Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt. The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now. It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
-aOn 3/14/26 23:16, T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Glyophosate (Roundup)
President trump wants to increase the production of it so you have a patriotic duty to use it.
On 3/14/2026 11:16 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
I would use Roundup and see no problem if used as directed.
Last week I put down a premerg for Japanese stilt grass.-a I have a
problem with it and crabgrass but it is said to sprout weeks earlier and
if you pull it anytime it is growing there are seeds that will sprout so
in order to completely control it several yearly applications might be needed.
Roundup usually kills everything but other herbicides and premerges do
not which is fine if you want no weeds in your lawn.-a For bare earth,
kill everything.-a I completely eliminated English ivy around the house
for just mulch under bushes which were unharmed by Roundup.
T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt. The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now. It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Your choices are to use chemicals which actually work, or 20% vinegar
several times a year.
T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt. The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now. It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Your choices are to use chemicals which actually work, or 20% vinegar
several times a year.
On 3/15/26 07:13, Ed P wrote:
-a-aOn 3/14/26 23:16, T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Glyophosate (Roundup)
President trump wants to increase the production of it so you have a
patriotic duty to use it.
TDP is a mental illness, Ed.
On 3/15/26 07:30, Frank wrote:
On 3/14/2026 11:16 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
I would use Roundup and see no problem if used as directed.
Last week I put down a premerg for Japanese stilt grass.-a I have a
problem with it and crabgrass but it is said to sprout weeks earlier
and if you pull it anytime it is growing there are seeds that will
sprout so in order to completely control it several yearly
applications might be needed.
Roundup usually kills everything but other herbicides and premerges do
not which is fine if you want no weeds in your lawn.-a For bare earth,
kill everything.-a I completely eliminated English ivy around the house
for just mulch under bushes which were unharmed by Roundup.
It needs to be safe for pets and humans.-a And as far as
killing weeds, my 20% vinegar is deadly.
I just want the weeds gone for good.
Glyophosate (Roundup)
President trump wants to increase the production of it so you have a
patriotic duty to use it.
TDP is a mental illness, Ed.
Yes, so are the lies of lower gas prices and no more wars a d stopping
the Ukraine war in a couple of weeks. Sorry about your gullibility.
T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets weed killer that will >>keep them away for five year or longer.
I have tried rock salt. The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season for three years
now. It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little dears, but twice a >>year I get a new crop I have to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
Your choices are to use chemicals which actually work, or 20% vinegar
several times a year.
You can read what the EPA says a about glycophosphate.-a It is not that toxic or harmful.
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/reregistration/ fs_PC-417300_1-Sep-93.pdf
Some law firms have made a big issue of the IARC carcinogen
classification to make money off it.-a The issue is greatly exaggerated based on epidemiological data.
You can read what the EPA says a about glycophosphate.-a It is not that toxic or harmful.
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/reregistration/ fs_PC-417300_1-Sep-93.pdf
On 3/15/26 09:17, Frank wrote:
You can read what the EPA says a about glycophosphate.-a It is not that
toxic or harmful.
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/reregistration/
fs_PC-417300_1-Sep-93.pdf
Some law firms have made a big issue of the IARC carcinogen
classification to make money off it.-a The issue is greatly exaggerated
based on epidemiological data.
Hi Frank,
EPA gets it palms waxed.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=glycerophosphate
Wife suffers from MSC/TILT. Can't have glycophosphate ANYWHERE near
her.
Do you know of another non-toxic solution?
Hi All,
I have a cheat grass and other weeds problem in
my decorative rocks.
Does anyone know of a nontoxic to humans and pets
weed killer that will keep them away for five
year or longer.
I have tried rock salt.-a The weeds seem to like it.
I have sprayed corn gluten per-emergent twice a season
for three years now.-a It does nothing.
I spray with 20% vinegar and It does kill the little
dears, but twice a year I get a new crop I have
to spray again.
Death to weeds!
-T
On 3/15/26 09:17, Frank wrote:
You can read what the EPA says a about glycophosphate.-a It is not that
toxic or harmful.
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/
reregistration/ fs_PC-417300_1-Sep-93.pdf
Some law firms have made a big issue of the IARC carcinogen
classification to make money off it.-a The issue is greatly exaggerated
based on epidemiological data.
Hi Frank,
EPA gets it palms waxed.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=glycerophosphate
Wife suffers from MSC/TILT.-a Can't have glycophosphate ANYWHERE
near her.
Do you know of another non-toxic solution?
-T
Do you know of another non-toxic solution?
https://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html
It probably isn't a permanent solution unless you torch them off
frequently enough to kill the roots.
On 3/15/26 09:17, Frank wrote:
You can read what the EPA says a about glycophosphate.-a It is not that
toxic or harmful.
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/
reregistration/ fs_PC-417300_1-Sep-93.pdf
Hi Frank,
Here is a better link:
https://www.msdsdigital.com/system/files/SDS- Roundup%20Weed%20%26%20Grass%20Killer%20Concentrate.pdf
Hazard Identification
Main hazard: Causes eye irritation
Avoid contact with eyes or clothing
Wash thoroughly with soap and water after handling
Keep out of reach of children
Potential Health Effects
Eyes: redness, tearing, swelling, blurred vision
Skin: generally mild irritation possible
Inhalation: may cause discomfort if mist is inhaled
Ingestion: harmful if swallowed; seek medical advice
First Aid (Summary)
Eyes: rinse cautiously with water for several minutes
Skin: wash with soap and water
Inhalation: move to fresh air
Ingestion: contact poison control or a physician
Handling / PPE
Typical recommendations:
Gloves
Eye protection when mixing or spraying
Avoid breathing spray mist
Use in well-ventilated areas
-T
On 3/15/2026 9:49 PM, T wrote:
On 3/15/26 09:17, Frank wrote:
You can read what the EPA says a about glycophosphate.-a It is not that >>> toxic or harmful.
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/
reregistration/ fs_PC-417300_1-Sep-93.pdf
Some law firms have made a big issue of the IARC carcinogen
classification to make money off it.-a The issue is greatly exaggerated >>> based on epidemiological data.
Hi Frank,
EPA gets it palms waxed.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=glycerophosphate
Wife suffers from MSC/TILT.-a Can't have glycophosphate ANYWHERE
near her.
Do you know of another non-toxic solution?
-T
No and as a chemist, I use chemicals but as minimal as possible. Other solution is to pull weeds.
Even if you do kill the roots - those pesky things called _seeds_Do you know of another non-toxic solution?
https://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html
It probably isn't a permanent solution unless you torch them off
frequently enough to kill the roots.
will soon come along, doncha know ..
John T.
Not that it is a bad idea to be cautious.
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